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Photos provide clues for Chinese Type 056 corvette design
Jane's ^ | 18 November 2010 | Ted Parsons and Mrityunjoy Mazumdar

Posted on 11/19/2010 6:17:38 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Photos provide clues for Chinese Type 056 corvette design

By Ted Parsons and Mrityunjoy Mazumdar

18 November 2010

The first images of a probable new corvette design for the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) have emerged following a visit by the deputy commander of the Hong Kong military garrison to a local college.

Photographs published on the Hong Kong University website showed Major General Wang Junli presenting a model of the vessel, which has an estimated displacement of between 1,000 tons and 1,800 tons and bears the pennant number 056, to the institution's vice chancellor during the visit on 4 November.

The presentation by a local military commander suggests that the new Type 056 corvette – if this is indeed its designation – may be intended to replace or supplement the PLAN's six Houjian-class (Type 037/2) fast attack craft (FACs). Armed with YJ-1 (C-801) surface-to-surface missiles (SSMs), these 528-ton craft have been based in Hong Kong since 1997.

According to Chinese sources, however, the new vessel is set to replace the Houxin-class (Type 037/G) attack craft and older Type 053S light frigates. Observers of the PLAN have known for some time that the service was planning an extensive construction programme for a corvette-sized vessel. This involved the procurement of well over two dozen units from several shipyards across China – along the lines of the Houbei-class [Type 022] catamaran

(Excerpt) Read more at janes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; corvette; navy; plan

The corvette model features a 76 mm gun, four SSMs, an FL-3000N air-defence system and a Z-9 helicopter. (China-Defense.com)

1 posted on 11/19/2010 6:17:42 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I'm a car guy, so when I clicked on this, I thought China's SAIC was designing GM's next muscle car.

Of course, it does not bode well for the US if China continues to improve its military while the Manchurian surrender monkey is in the WH.

2 posted on 11/19/2010 6:20:33 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: sukhoi-30mki
56 was a good year for Vettes


3 posted on 11/19/2010 6:21:26 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: kosciusko51

You think it is only Democrats selling America to China?

Been to Walmart, in the last decade?


4 posted on 11/19/2010 6:21:46 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy Was Right)
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To: The_Victor

Wow! I’d take that car over the ship any day.


5 posted on 11/19/2010 6:23:39 AM PST by rfreedom4u ("A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I still remember the walmart ads.. They showed the item, then told you where it came from and showed you the plant that made it. Always US based.

Now your hard pressed to find ANYTHING made in america at walmart (or target, or anywhere else for that matter)


6 posted on 11/19/2010 6:24:31 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Oops! I thought they meant THIS 1956 Chinese Corvette:


7 posted on 11/19/2010 6:26:15 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("a comeuppance is due the arrogant elites" - Charles Krauthammer)
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To: The_Victor

Can I trade my ‘98 Vette for that one? Straight up?


8 posted on 11/19/2010 6:26:15 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: cableguymn
Now your hard pressed to find ANYTHING made in america at walmart (or target, or anywhere else for that matter)

It certainly doesn't help that our own government puts up so many roadblocks to actually making anything the USA that it just simply isn't worth the effort to do so anymore. I don't blame retailers for that, they are simply reacting to the negative consequences of US policies.

9 posted on 11/19/2010 6:28:40 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

How does that ship intend to defend itself against a bunch of rubber duckies?


10 posted on 11/19/2010 6:28:49 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: pnh102

I get so tired of hearing this.

At what point does our side stop selling American workers down the river, and start to think about the real world strategic implications of becoming a weak, incapable nation at the pity of hugely rich tyrannical nations, with a historical grudge?

We are so screwed, if this does not stop.


11 posted on 11/19/2010 6:31:19 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy Was Right)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
That's not what I said. I'm talking about the lack of defense of our own country by the current regime.

Besides, the reason we import so damn much from China is due to the fact that both parties (but mostly Dem) have passed regulations and restrictions that make it virtually impossible to make things at a reasonable cost here in the states. Also, unions and businesses agreed to deals that set off financal crises that are now coming to fruition.

The irony of it all is that the "union label" in clothing has been replaced by "made in ".

12 posted on 11/19/2010 6:31:42 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

Sorry, “made in “ should read “made in (anywhere but the US)”. I used characters reserved for html...


13 posted on 11/19/2010 6:33:25 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

See my post above your response please.

Enough whining.

We need to stop this. Or we’re going to be destroyed.

Really. We will be destroyed. Everything we are doing now, is making that destruction inevitable.

All of it.


14 posted on 11/19/2010 6:34:06 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy Was Right)
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To: pnh102
It certainly doesn't help that our own government puts up so many roadblocks to actually making anything the USA that it just simply isn't worth the effort to do so anymore.

The biggest roadblock to manufacturing in the U.S. is a daily wage above $10.

15 posted on 11/19/2010 6:35:22 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
At what point does our side stop selling American workers down the river...

When we value our sovereignty more than profit. When we value the worker more than profit. When unions stop extorting money for "no work jobs". When the Puritan work ethic is not considered to be offensive.

16 posted on 11/19/2010 6:36:53 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: Non-Sequitur
The biggest roadblock to manufacturing in the U.S. is a daily wage above $10.

Repealing the federal minimum wage would certainly be a good start. Unskilled labor simply isn't worth what the US government it is. But I would go further, US corporate income taxes are among the highest in the world. The US also imposes many other restrictions and regulations on business that makes it too hard for manufacturing to be profitable. Many states also impose forced union membership on people, which further discourage businesses from hiring. Roll some of that back, and the manufacturing sector will come back to life.

17 posted on 11/19/2010 6:39:01 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Stating the facts is not whining. We did price ourselves out of the market.


18 posted on 11/19/2010 6:39:45 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

So we commit national suicide?

That’s what we’re doing.


19 posted on 11/19/2010 6:40:43 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy Was Right)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
See post #16. We have been attempting national suicide for decades, and I think in 2008, we have come very close to succeeding.

Listen, I don't disagree with what you are saying. But if we don't understand why we are in this position, we will not get out.

20 posted on 11/19/2010 6:43:10 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

While we’re busy working toward “understanding”, we continue to lose ground.

Every day.

Every month, we send to China via just the bilateral deficit in our trade balance.

The equivalent, one direction, cash money. Of four Reagan-class aircraft carriers.

One. Every. Week.

Does anyone with a functioning brain, believe for one minute that is not exactly what all that money and manufacturing will in fact, be used to build?


21 posted on 11/19/2010 6:49:01 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy Was Right)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Things will turn around when the American worker decides that he is going to make the best possible product and COMPETE with the Chinese, Indian, Taiwanese, Japanese, etc. WORKER in productivity per dollar. When he tells both UNION and Corporate management that he is going to COMPETE with and beat foreign competition.

Things will turn around when the American voter chooses legislators and educators who focus on production of quality goods and the worth & dignity of people who MAKE things. Who are all of our movies and TV shows about? People who play games; people who sing & dance; people who sue other people & companies; people who rob & kill; people who catch those who rob & kill; people who get the people who rob & kill out of legal jeopardy.. The list goes on...

Make “Shop Class” mandatory in all years of middle school & high school.

One hour a week, in all schools & all grades, show episodes of “Dirty Jobs” or “Modern Marvels”.

Talk eBay & Amazon, Best Buy & Walmart into having “Made in America” sections. Let US put our money where our mouths are about Buy American.

/rant


22 posted on 11/19/2010 6:50:03 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("a comeuppance is due the arrogant elites" - Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
So, have YOU stopped buying from China, or are YOU helping to increase the bilateral deficit?

I don't know what bee in your bonnet you have. I NEVER mentioned anything about the trade deficit with China being ONLY the work of the Dems. In fact, my point was only tangentially related to trade. Save the visceral reactions for someone else.

23 posted on 11/19/2010 6:56:55 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

Inconvenient facts, can be visceral.

We are speeding toward catastrophe.

Meanwhile, too many on our side, think this is some reality show version of “Atlas Shrugged”.

It’s not. Atlas is gone. Wang now owned the railroads, and all the factories.

There is no Gulch. We need to wake up, and do something to stop this.

Now.


24 posted on 11/19/2010 7:02:07 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy Was Right)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

OK, chief, you made your points. Now what’s your plan?


25 posted on 11/19/2010 7:03:48 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: sukhoi-30mki
We are paying for this every time we buy Chinese made products.

I would pay extra to buy something made in Michigan or Ohio; that is currently made in China.
I pay more at the cash register, but am not funding the development of China's blue water navy.

How can we re industrialize the upper Midwest?

26 posted on 11/19/2010 7:05:51 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Vote like Obama is on the ballot)
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To: kosciusko51

Simple.

Eliminate the IRS. Abolish every single income tax.

And implement a 100% import tariff.

Our entire national budget, would be paid. Then as manufacturing RETURNED to America - resulting in reduced tariff revenue.

We can work on reducing the size of that national budget. :)


27 posted on 11/19/2010 7:06:55 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy Was Right)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If you want American Manufacturing to be globally competitive, the only way to do so would be to reduce the average American worker’s real purchasing power to around 10K USD per year. Everything else is simply mental masturbation.


28 posted on 11/19/2010 12:42:35 PM PST by todd_hall
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