Posted on 11/19/2010 8:35:02 AM PST by markomalley
“We, meaning Western Civilization, need to figure out a more effective way of dealing with Islamo-fanatical terrorism and terrorists.”
The answer to the issue you raise is simple and obvious.
That answer is:
Expel ALL Muslims from non-Islamic territory, and confine them to “Dar El Islam”. (If you don’t know what that term refers to, google it)
I’ve coined a new term for this approach to dealing with the Islamic problem, and claim credit for it:
“The Chernobyl Solution”.
As you recall, when nothing else seemed to work, the only solution to “contain” the poisonous radiation from the exploded Chernobyl reactor was to encase it in a “sarcophagus of concrete”. That didn’t stop the fire inside — but endeavored to entomb it with the intention that radiation within would burn itself out over time.
So The West must deal with Islam, which is metaphorically “poison” to the rest of the world.
Muslims must be removed from The West. Once returned to Islamic territory, The West must indicate to Dar El Islam that they can do whatever they wish in their own lands, but any actions which would disturb non-Islamic territory would be met with a response of extreme prejudice.
The West must realize that Islam will NEVER relinquish its quest to expand and conquer the entire Earth.
We must see Islam for what it is: a harmful “radiation” that will eventually destroy any nation that allows itself to be exposed to same.
Analogy:
If you discover a cancer within your body, how do you deal with it?
Do you welcome the incoming cancer cells, with the thought that “everything is equal and everything has the same right to live within”? Do you respect the “diversity” of the cancer cells?
Again, how do we deal with cancer within our own bodies?
Answer that honestly, and you will know how The West must deal with Islam.
If we are unwilling to do so, we shall suffer the same consequence as permitting a cancer within us to go untreated.
I wonder if people are connecting this to Obama or not.
"No problem. Here, keep it."
I’ll not debate Milgram with you. But references to the Nazis & TSA does nothing but trivialize the Holocaust.
You can choose to avoid the whole asinine TSA business. The Jews had no opt out rights for getting onto the trains.
Not exactly. The San Diego junk man wanted to leave mid pat down. Common sense tells you this is an iffy situation. I think you would want security to talk to anyone who decides to flee during a search. There would be no way to stop that person from re-entering the lobby & blowing that up instead of the plane.
If you start the process, be prepared to stick it out. I don’t believe leaving the line will get you hunted down by the local constabulary but fleeing during the pat down surely will cause some concern.
The problem with all of this crap is the One Size Fits All mentality of it.
As to your #3...
Obama: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
Do talk to me about trivializing the Holocaust pal. I know some of the names of the dead. I'm only here because my grandmother understood what was happening and got out of her formerly comfortable Berlin.
ML/NJ
Then terrorists hijacked planes using plastic handled box cutters, so everybody else had to have our nail clippers confiscated.
Then a terrorist tried to blow-up a plane with a shoe bomb, so everybody else had to take off our shoes.
Then a terrorist tried to blow-up a plane with liquid explosives, so everybody else had to stop carrying liquids or gels on the plane.
Then a terrorist tried to blow-up a plane with an underwear bomb, so everybody else had to be radioactively strip searched or manually crotch groped.
Next when a terrorist tries to blow-up a plane with a rectal bomb, are you going to be the first to submit to body cavity searches?
It just amazes me that conservatives are so mistrusting of the MSM, including the Rathergate network about anything but reported TSA abuses. Everyone just gloms on to every single story as if all of them are absolutely true.
My only experiences with TSA have been when I travel & the agents I know personally—each of whom are veterans. These guys served this country honorably. Each of whom are good, decent people who are being crucified because of terrible policies & out of control rumor mongering.
The villians in all of this are BHO, Soros & Crapitano. How many of those who will celebrate the first time a TSA agent is serioulsy assaulted have bothered to contact any member of the new congress who can actually DO something about these insane policies? Congress controls funding for TSA, that is where I am taking my complaints. Crapitano & Pistole have made it clear they don’t care what we want. I’d suggest pressuring congress.
lol...same folks who were cheering when the Patriot Act was passed years ago. Same folks who would be totally fine if it were the GOP who enacted these new tactics. Im a republican but for Gawd sakes flying on a private federally regulated commerical aircraft is not a right. Im not giving up any rights,no more than say when I go to a concert or a ball game. Please.
lol...same folks who were cheering when the Patriot Act was passed years ago. Same folks who would be totally fine if it were the GOP who enacted these new tactics. Im a republican but for Gawd sakes flying on a private federally regulated commerical aircraft is not a right. Im not giving up any rights,no more than say when I go to a concert or a ball game. Please.
Did you ever think that these stories fit peoples' agendas around here and that is why they lend them credulity?
Nobody on FR likes an intrusive government. What can be more intrusive than this? So if an anecdote is posted that meets somebody's pre-defined attitude, then its natural that they will go with it. And, face it, the majority of TSA agents who act professionally do not qualify as news objects, now do they?
The villians in all of this are BHO, Soros & Crapitano.
True. Unfortunately they aren't doing the pat-downs nor operating the machines. Nor are your congresscritters.
Congress controls funding for TSA, that is where I am taking my complaints.
Good idea.
But let me give you a little hint: if the environment is not stirred up to where a whole lot of people are really and truly outraged by these kind of policies, your complaint will go on deaf ears, no matter how well founded it is. Posting these stories should result in a whole lot of folks contacting a whole lot of Congresscritters and screaming. When the volume is loud enough for them to not be able to ignore, then you should see something. But not until that point.
From what I've read, the new scanners can't detect stuff inside one's body. X-rays reveal stuff inside one's body. Sounds to me like they are two different kinds of technology/radiation. Not that I want to go through one of them.
>> It’s easy to understand how Hitler was able to recruit concentration camp personnel.
Indeed. An important point when the political cross-hairs are incorrectly pointed at the agents. People need to turn their attention to DC and demand this shit stop!
I’m just suggesting that stories from the MSM should be vetted a bit before we assume they are true. To do otherwise undermines our credibility.
The outrage is totally understandable, my plea is that we take our collective jeremiad where it can do some good. While some activist judge may enjoin this insanity soon enough, the permanent fix probably has to come from congress.
I also fear that individual agents will be subjected to threats & violence if people don’t remain rational. Let’s leave that to the left.
Fair enough. And, frankly, that's why I haven't posted the myriad of stories that are on blogs or in combox sections of web pages, as I don't want to spread half-truths.
But what do you suggest to do for validation? Wait until a second source has reported it? That means nothing. Look for video? Again, it means nothing.
No, nobody wants to see a TSA agent decked who is doing his or her job. OTOH, I personally have run into exactly two (since the creation of the agency) who needed decking. A significant minority...but they do exist.
Use witnesses. The agents don’t want to be alone with passengers & it can be avoided. You have the right to have someone with you if you opt to be screened in private.
Some of the stories I’m seeing are just hard to believe. A witness would make all the difference.
At our local airport, the local cops are always handy at the checkpoints & can be used as witnesses.
Some people are crazy & make stuff up. They’re often the loudest.
Some of what is being reported as absolute truth is in direct violation of TSA procedures, per the TSA agents I talk to. Thus, either someone at TSA is violating policy or the complainant is lying.
Having a witness handy solves a lot of problems.
NO! He never protested being searched. He only protested having his private parts searched. If the TSA thug had then said, OK, we won’t touch your private parts, the kid would have consented to the rest of the search and boarded his plane.
He didn’t FLEE during a search. He told them the consequences of touching his private parts was he would file a sexual assault complaint with the police, hence “I will have you arrested for assault.”
He didn’t flee the search. He didn’t ask to flee the search. He was told he could not fly if he didn’t consent to having his balls fondled by the TSA. THEY then ESCORTED him out of the search area with threats of a $10,000 civil fine.
He NEVER fled the search. Get your facts right.
No. you won't be booted from the site, but we'll take your support of a the police state in consideration with any other allegedly 'conservative' statements you might be willing to offer in the future.
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