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Posted on 11/19/2010 10:03:53 AM PST by Leaning Right
Keyes tries to make the argument that Palin is being led astray by some of her advisors.
From the article: "Yet the telltale flaw in Palin's supposedly conservative credentials is a proven penchant for relying on advisers who mislead her into decisions that are anything but conservative."
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
On the other hand, this could just be another attempt to smear her.
aww..come on ...
Is this indicative of the accuracy I can expect from the rest of the article?
It appears that Alan is suffering from Attention To Me Deficit Disorder again.
Just throwing it out for comment. It’s another example of the old-line Republicans vs. the Tea-Party types.
This is one of the reasons why Keyes has so far been unelectable. Is is something of a loose cannon. I don’t believe Sarah Palin has made any serious missteps. As much as I respect his patriotism and pro-life credentials, Keyes should have been more specific if he had something serious to say about Gov. Palin.
Keyes has spoken. 2012 must be getting close.
Any criticism Palin gets from Keyes will only make her look more credible.
“Did Alan Keyes legally change his name to Allen Keyes?
Is this indicative of the accuracy I can expect from the rest of the article?”
I’ll let the article stand or fall on it’s own. But it is indicative of my inability to type.
The Romneybots are out in full force today.
Say it ain't so. Not Keyes...../s.
Yet the telltale flaw in Palin's supposedly conservative credentials is a proven penchant for relying on advisers who mislead her into decisions that are anything but conservative. I have thoroughly analyzed the results in a number of articles you can read at my blog, Loyal to Liberty ― Palin drops the other shoe," "Sarah Palin -- personally pro-life, but
?" "Is Palin's lead a pitfall for the pro-life cause?" "Why is Palin raising McCain?" and "Palin's choice: An afterword."
I really dont want to hear for Keyes on who is or isnt a real conservative.
A real conservative does not move to a different state to run for a Senate seat. And on top of that he lost to Obama.
So thanks for that.
You mean there are people here who support that flip-flopping liberal hack?
And the winner of the Harold Stassen, “I’ll Sleep When I’m Dead” Award is.....
Keyes must tremble with envy whenever he thinks of Palin.
Whenever I am looking for good political advice, Allen Keyes is the first name that comes to mind. (sarc)
Here is the listing, name the names Al.
The Palin Network New York Times Magazine
Hell to the point that a lot of us felt lke we had to 'shower' after debating the 'Keyesters' til they were gone.
You’ll notice that Palin doesn’t spend even one minute of her day attacking fellow Republicans or fellow conservatives. Not even in self-defense. She keeps her focus on Obama and the Obamists.
A Keyes trait is that he will always say in 10 words what could have been said in one.
I like him, but he has always been impressed with his own intelligence, kinda like a black conservative Gore Vidal.
Could be true.. after all she still stinks of Juan McLame..
She should be careful about whos bowels she rubs up against..
No doubt many would try to influence her..
She should (and probably does) know all this..
Prayer might be advisable for her..
Stand aside Alan. Sarah will show you how to kick Obama’s a$$ ... something you couldn't come close to doing.
And he changed the headline.
You’d think that given that at the very top of the article, in large letters, you see the name “ALAN KEYES,” he could at least get the spelling right.
Oh...and the article is just another silly, typical WND repetition of the vague “connection” between some company Sarah Palin used and some guy who once dated George Soros’ neighbor’s landlord’s second cousin.
And if Palin were to start taking Dr. Keyes’s advice, she’d become part of the 1%-popularity wacko fringe too.
I don’t think Keyes ia part of the GOP “establishment”.
He’s too conservative. He also speaks his mind and follows basic conservative principles at all times.
Ya, that's pretty much the conclusion that I came to. What a rambling mish-mash.
I prefer its old name: "paranoid scizophrenia."
Nonsense. It's discussing Randy Scheunemann, McCain's top foreign policy adviser, who now works for her.
The Soros funding of McCain's organization, ie his top political people, in the run up to 2008 is well-documented in many places, including Michelle Malkin's site.
I used to enjoy Dr. Keyes radio program. Maybe he spent too much time filling in air time. As for the first black President, I would have preferred him over you know who.
If Gov. Palin is elected President, I propose that we move the Nation’s Capitol to Alaska. She will be near her home and family AND Congress will want to get their business done quickly and get out of there before winter comes.
If the Capitol stays there, only true patriots will want to go there to stay. And, term limits may not be required.
A real conservative does not move to a different state to run for a Senate seat. And on top of that he lost to Obama
....ohhhh, I see, you’d rather the Democrat Socialists candidate for US SENATE run UNopposed instead of having Keyes accept the request that he enter the race? And exposed much of the bogus background/pro abort stances of TheOne? Smart choice...thanks for that...
It’s B.S. I read the real story about that, and the connection to Soros is as tenuous as I have suggested. I have less respect for Alan Keyes for repeating this nonsense.
Hmmm...looks pretty darned cogent to me.
Leaders who encourage the delusion that we can escape from the issues that arise from these moral requirements may pretend to conserve our liberty, but they serve, consciously or not, the forces that seek to destroy it. Leaders who loudly proclaim their opposition to Obama and the openly totalitarian socialists of the Obama faction but who abandon, confuse or obfuscate the key elements of America's moral understanding may pretend to conserve our republic, but they serve, consciously or not, the forces that seek to destroy it. The only leaders worthy of the cause are those who have articulated and acted on the same priorities, and with the same courageous clarity of moral vision and purpose, that characterized the leaders who prevailed in America's founding generation. Those leaders acknowledged God and the natural law and right determined by His creation. They articulated and defended natural rights, derived from the willingness to do what is right that arises from our responsibility to the Creator God.
I see among the politicians who participate in the present two-party system not a single one with a record that reflects the consistency of principle, purpose and action of those founders; not a single one willing to put first things first whatever the political heat they take for it. Do you? Words they may offer, but where are their wounds? Where is their willingness to stand with those, like Terry Lakin, now persecuted and threatened with destruction simply because they dare still to reason and act like true Americans? Seeking what is safe, these timid politicos shrink from what the manipulated media (or else their own Soros-funded advisers?) tell them is unpopular. In so doing, they neglect what is right even when the decent heart of the people yearns for it. This is not true American leadership. It is the denouement of an American tragedy. We will avoid the tragedy only by avoiding the leaders who set the stage for it.
You wrote: “Palin doesnt spend even one minute of her day attacking fellow Republicans or fellow conservatives.”
Very good point. It’s one of her many Reagan-like qualities.
It’s not tenuous at all. Without the money of Soros and Heinz-Kerry and others McCain’s political team would have dried up and blown away. When everyone was writing McCain off because he didn’t have any money, they just didn’t know about the flow of cash that was being run through McCain’s “Reform Institute.”
Yep, proofreading has never been one of my strongest points. Guilty as charged there.
I thought this was about Sarah Palin, not McCain.
I was simply responding to the content of your post, which was inaccurate.
This is not a swipe at you but I hate it when some guy that has had some public job in the past is referred to as if he still has it. Keyes has not been ambassador to anything for decades. Jeb is not a gov, Bill is not a president and neither is George or George or Jimmy. Newt ain't speaker of anything anymore. These are our positions and they don't belong to anyone such that they get to drag them around as if they own them forever. And profit personally off of them. They have already been paid.
The media uses these previous monikers for people that once held a temp job because it gives the person more, ug!, gravitas. I like Keyes but he is just another guy with an opinion, that's all.
I’ve said before that I’d have these two be friends. Alan can give Sarah a graduate-level course on conservative principles. Sarah can give Alan some pointers on how to win elections.
She campaigned heavily this year for her favorite Republican Senator, McCain. That ought to give people a clue.
But, no - folks on our side are taken in by her just as the Left was taken in by Obama.
An empty suit is still an empty suit.
Of course, that was the title of the article. It was the Palin part of it that got me a bit worked up.
My apologies if I violated a posting guideline here.
By the way, you don’t even need to include McCain in this, necessarily. Scheunemann’s lobbying firm has had Soros’ Open Society Policy Center as a client for almost ten years, and that relationship is a continuing one from all the information I’ve seen. Big bucks.
Since when was Keyes EVER for Romney?
You don't have to apologize to me. I'm not a moderator or the proprietor.
And it probably won't matter anyway. It's apparently open season on Dr. Keyes on FR these days, sadly.
All I would ask you to do, once you calm down, is to put the personalities aside, those of both Keyes and Palin, and give serious thought to the actual words of that article. Because what he said is incisively true about the condition of this republic. And he's saying things few others even seem to understand and therefore have the ability to articulate.
In every respect the American body politic is wasting away. We see this in the reality of crushing national debt and imminent bankruptcy that threatens to collapse our economic system. We see it in the malaise of dysfunctional behavior that threatens to collapse the vital structures of our social life. We see it in the heedless self-indulgence that wrecks the lives of individuals and families. The moral and spiritual understanding, resources and habits that are the key to forestalling this collapse are everywhere under assault, and almost always that assault comes from some self-serving elements of the elite, seeking to maximize their profit, power or personal ambition by inducing or encouraging vices and addictions (dependencies) they can profitably exploit.
At its inception, the American political system was devised by leaders who intended its constitutional provisions to limit the harm that could be done by such exploitative elites. But those provisions implicitly relied on a certain moral understanding and character. The key elements of the requisite moral understanding are articulated in the ideas and reasoning epitomized in the American Declaration of Independence. The key elements of the requisite moral character were supported by religious and educational institutions (beginning of course with the God-endowed natural family) that conveyed and built upon the moral understanding.
If, as many grass-roots conservatives now proclaim, we truly aim to restore and perpetuate the constitutional, democratic republic, we must discard the destructive syndrome of self-serving elite ambition characteristic of the present so-called two-party system. We must discard the masquerade of mutual negativity through which its manipulators seek to herd us toward a totalitarian socialist future under their domination. The American republic represents a positive idea of justice and decent community that begins from the simple premise of God's creation and concludes in the insistent expectation that the exercise of human power must conform to its moral requirements.
-- Alan Keyes
Bingo. Alan needs to officially sit down and shut up.