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Across Texas, 60,000 babies of noncitizens get U.S. birthright (each year)
DALLAS morning news. ^ | 8/8/2010 | SHERRY JACOBSON

Posted on 11/19/2010 11:40:25 AM PST by dragnet2

...the debate could resonate in Texas, where not only 1.5 million illegal immigrants are estimated to reside but at least 60,000 babies are added to their households annually.

Parkland Memorial Hospital delivers more of those babies than any other hospital in the state. Last year at Parkland, 11,071 babies were born to women who were noncitizens, about 74 percent of total deliveries. Most of these women are believed to be in the country illegally.

"If both parents are here illegally, should there be a reward for their illegal behavior?" Kyl said recently on a Sunday morning talk show.

Changing the Constitution, however, is not as simple as getting a bill through Congress by majority vote.

In Texas, between 60,000 to 65,000 babies achieve U.S. citizenship annually by being born in the state's hospitals, according to a tally released by the state's Health and Human Services Commission.

Last year, such births represented almost 16 percent of the total births statewide.

Between 2001 and 2009, births to illegal immigrant women totaled 542,152 in Texas alone.

"The next 10 years will be an even more transformative decade demographically for Texas," said Dr. Roberto Calderon, an associate history professor at the University of North Texas....

He speculated that the Republicans probably were aware of this ongoing demographic shift and how it might threaten their party since Hispanic voters tend to support Democrats.

"They're expecting what used to be safe Republican seats on the state and federal level will no longer be so safe."

"In the last decade in Texas, over 60 percent of the state population increase was due to Hispanics," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; anchorbabies; broke; crimaliens; illegals; texas
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1 posted on 11/19/2010 11:40:29 AM PST by dragnet2
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Parkland Memorial Hospital delivers more of those babies than any other hospital in the state. Last year at Parkland, 11,071 babies were born to women who were illegal aliens

That's almost 1000 every 30 days folks..At just one hospital.

Where they going to work?

2 posted on 11/19/2010 11:43:03 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/campaign-chain-migration.html

low skilled and no-skilled illegals cost us plenty.


3 posted on 11/19/2010 11:43:11 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: dragnet2
Where they going to work?

TSA ?

4 posted on 11/19/2010 11:44:29 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: dragnet2

The strategy is easy.

Illegals make legal babies, which qualifies the baby for every social entitlement and the family can live off of the Government...then they vote Democratic (the 20% that vote do).

It gets Liberal, pro-union politicians elected.

It may be too late, California has 51% Latino children in its public schools, and thousands more come each year.

Anglos will soon be replaced. It is a demographic inevitability in CA.


5 posted on 11/19/2010 11:45:53 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Why not? Apparently, they used a Muslim to pat down a Nun.


6 posted on 11/19/2010 11:50:14 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: dragnet2

Is Houston, TX too diversified? Yes.


7 posted on 11/19/2010 11:50:51 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: dragnet2

Any lawyers here? What’s the case law on birthright citizenship? If TX were to say we don’t recognize these people as citizens the Feds would certainly come after TX. Could this force clarification of 14A?


8 posted on 11/19/2010 11:52:10 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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To: dragnet2
...in Texas, where not only 1.5 million illegal immigrants are estimated to reside but at least 60,000 babies are added to their households annually.

Canadian and Japanese transplants?

9 posted on 11/19/2010 11:56:36 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: wac3rd
Across Texas, 60,000 babies of noncitizens get U.S. birthright (each year)

I wonder what the medical expenses alone are costing Texans?

10 posted on 11/19/2010 11:57:00 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

While some actions require constitutional amendments or are subject to liberal court decisions, there are some steps Congress is able to take:

Congress can prevent these anchor childs ever sponsoring anybody (e.g. sponsoring their parents or siblings). Being able to sponsor foreigners to US is not a constitutional right.

I think this is something that GOP should push in 2012. This would also make illegal immigration less desirable, as the path to citizenship would be impossible via anchor child.


11 posted on 11/19/2010 12:01:53 PM PST by heiss
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To: Paine in the Neck

This is the best assessment of the situation. A little long, but worth it. When this testimony was requested and submitted, Lamar Smith was the subcommittee chair. He is going to be chairman of the House Judiciary Committee come January.

http://judiciary.house.gov/legacy/6042.htm


12 posted on 11/19/2010 12:02:06 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: dragnet2

I simply do not envision 38 state legislatures voting to alter the 14th Amendment.

Without those 38 states, this issue is going nowhere.


13 posted on 11/19/2010 12:03:29 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: dragnet2

How many anchor babies are born to illegals in California each year, I wonder?

Think I’ll look that up.


14 posted on 11/19/2010 12:08:37 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: trumandogz; La Lydia

Seen this?

November 16, 2010

“Country Club” Detention Centers For Illegal Immigrants

EL PASO, Texas — Illegal immigration costs taxpayers an estimated $100 billion a year. Texas picks up nearly $9 billion of that bill, New Mexico picks up about $608 million. And now the federal government is ordering changes on the taxpayers’ dime.

E-mails obtained by the Houston Chronicle reveal that federal authorities have ordered the following changes at the holding centers for illegal immigrants: More variety in menus, fresh veggie bars, self-serve beverages, continental breakfast on weekends, movie nights, bingo, arts and crafts, dance and cooking classes, tutoring and computer training.

The facilities are also to be made more welcoming with new paint, bedding and house plants. Human rights groups think the changes are overdue, claiming that illegal immigrants should not be treated as criminals.

http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/25811443/detail.html


15 posted on 11/19/2010 12:08:37 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: heiss
Congress can prevent these anchor childs ever sponsoring anybody (e.g. sponsoring their parents or siblings). Being able to sponsor foreigners to US is not a constitutional right.

The law was already changed back in the 1990s so that they cannot sponsor anyone until age 18. Before then, the illegal mother would have a baby and, if INS caught her, would immediately file a petition for citizenship in the baby's name. Now, mother and child can both be deported, and child can't come back until age 18.

16 posted on 11/19/2010 12:10:40 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: dragnet2

Yes, I know, I live in Texas and work my ass off and nobody serves me continental breakfast on the weekends and the veggie bars I eat are not always fresh.

All you can do is enforce the border and put birth control in the water systems of Texas, California, New Mexico and Arizona.


17 posted on 11/19/2010 12:13:23 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: Windflier
It only took you 14 post to get here and whine...

You're one of those that pouts and cry's every time someone posts something about Texas....I forgot...

OK, feel free to turn this into a thread about CA.

wow...

18 posted on 11/19/2010 12:15:53 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Windflier

While you are at it, you can look-up how many illegal aliens Gov. Perry and Gov. Schwarzenegger have granted In-State Tuition to state universities.


19 posted on 11/19/2010 12:20:45 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: dragnet2
It only took you 14 post to get here and whine...

Well, that's mighty thin-skinned of you, considering that you've had a long running crusade against the state of Texas on FR.

I simply asked a simple question. Do you happen to know how many anchor babies were born to illegals in California last year?

It's a fair question, don't you think?

20 posted on 11/19/2010 12:23:03 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: La Lydia
This is the best assessment of the situation.

Thanks. I'll start studying.

21 posted on 11/19/2010 12:26:05 PM PST by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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To: dragnet2
According to modern day interpretation of the 14th Amendment, all of these children are “Natural Born Citizens.”
22 posted on 11/19/2010 12:28:24 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Windflier
you've had a long running crusade against the state of Texas

Oh man....Here we go...

Why are you such a whiny baby when it comes to reality?

Why don't you start your own site that bans people that post articles about Texas?

gezzz

23 posted on 11/19/2010 12:28:28 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

I think 60,000 is a gross underestimation.

I see them everyday here in the Austin area. Teenagers with 3 or 4 little ones (and a pregnant belly) on nearly every block.

There has to be more than that.


24 posted on 11/19/2010 12:32:39 PM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: dragnet2

well texas and Ok are going broke from illegals and arkansas looks like a 3rd world country.. they are not taking this coungry from us ..we are giving it to them..and paying them well to take it.


25 posted on 11/19/2010 12:36:05 PM PST by dalebert
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To: dragnet2
Oh man....Here we go...

Quit playing victim. Anyone who's watched your postings knows that you've got a real hate on for the state of Texas.

If you really cared about this subject, you could have easily posted any number of stories about the nationwide problem with illegal immigration. I found dozens in the last few minutes.

But no, you've got to single out the state of Texas for special criticism, when all of the border states are being crushed by the illegal invasion.

For the record, I'm a native Californian, and care deeply about what's happening to that state. The same way that I care about what's happening to every US state. They're all a part of my country.

What I object to, is your "dump on Texas" campaign. Doesn't seem very patriotic to me.

26 posted on 11/19/2010 12:41:25 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: trumandogz
While you are at it, you can look-up how many illegal aliens Gov. Perry and Gov. Schwarzenegger have granted In-State Tuition to state universities.

You'll get no disagreement from me on that. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it. I don't play favorites between states of the union, nor do I harbor any animosity toward any state.

I do, however, harbor a great deal of animosity toward those politicians and pro-illegal groups who got us in this mess.

27 posted on 11/19/2010 12:45:56 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: dragnet2
Ever look at the road construction Crews? I have never seen A Black or a White person working on the Crews, unless the White guy is the supervisor.. I live in the DFW metroplex... FW is a Sanctuary City, I can't see Rick Perry doing much about it
28 posted on 11/19/2010 12:46:24 PM PST by Milly (An Aggie Grama .)
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To: dragnet2

Why don’t you start your own site that bans people that post articles about Texas?

I lived in Riverside county in the ‘70’s they should have given the State back to Mexico then..We have been back lately and it’s in worse shape now... So don’t Knock Texas unless You have lived in the State....I’ll take Gov. Perry over Gov. Moonbeam anyday.


29 posted on 11/19/2010 12:53:34 PM PST by Milly (An Aggie Grama .)
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To: Milly

Sorry dragnet that post was meant for... Windflier


30 posted on 11/19/2010 12:55:28 PM PST by Milly (An Aggie Grama .)
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To: dragnet2

Past time to stop this nonsense and deport them all.


31 posted on 11/19/2010 12:59:58 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: dragnet2

The Costs of Birthright Citizenship
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2585416/posts

Feere’s research found that the “overwhelmingly majority of the world’s countries do not offer automatic citizenship to everyone born within their borders.” Only 30 countries out of 194 offer automatic citizenship, CIS confirmed. Of the 31 counties listed on the International Monetary Fund’s list of advanced economies, only the United States and Canada grant automatic birthright citizenship.

No country in Europe, a continent many liberals often cite for its supposedly superior views on everything from government health care to high tax rates, grants automatic citizenship.


32 posted on 11/19/2010 2:03:04 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


33 posted on 11/19/2010 2:26:29 PM PST by HiJinx (I can see Mexico from the back porch...)
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To: wolfcreek
I think 60,000 is a gross underestimation.

Totally agree. I think you could double that.

I see them everyday here in the Austin area. Teenagers with 3 or 4 little ones (and a pregnant belly) on nearly every block.

Yep...

34 posted on 11/19/2010 2:32:03 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dalebert
well texas and Ok are going broke from illegals and arkansas looks like a 3rd world country.. they are not taking this coungry from us ..we are giving it to them..and paying them well to take it.

BINGO....Right in the ten ring dale...

I've been saying for years, were paying for our own demise....A country full of ignorant, uneducated people, will be much easier for a socialist government to completely control.

35 posted on 11/19/2010 2:36:50 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Windflier
But no, you've got to single out the state of Texas for special criticism, when all of the border states are being crushed by the illegal invasion.

No one suggested that wasn't happening...

Our economy is in the toilet, but there are daily threads about it.

After a search, I found no one had posted this article...Is there a rule here that forbids articles about Texas?

Would you rather no one ever saw this article?

Maybe you should try to have it deleted? Maybe complain or hit the abuse button...If it makes ya feel better, go for it.

36 posted on 11/19/2010 2:49:02 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

AND, The citizens of Dallas County PAY THE BILL FOR THESE ILLEGALS by taxes going to Parkland. It stinks! I know, I live here....


37 posted on 11/19/2010 2:54:44 PM PST by devane617 (NEVER feed your cats canned Tuna fish. Mercury poisoning.)
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Busses run from the border specifically to bring illegals to give birth at Parkland. It is well know and we pay for their births.


38 posted on 11/19/2010 2:56:33 PM PST by devane617 (NEVER feed your cats canned Tuna fish. Mercury poisoning.)
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To: devane617
We are paying in more ways than most realize...Their taking jobs, taking affordable housing, jamming the jails, our courts, our schools, doctors offices, choking off our health care, and overloading our social services....

All this while the conga-line of millions continues to enter the U.S. illegally, year in, year out.

39 posted on 11/19/2010 3:02:17 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2; Jim Robinson
After a search, I found no one had posted this article...Is there a rule here that forbids articles about Texas?

Would you rather no one ever saw this article?

Maybe you should try to have it deleted? Maybe complain or hit the abuse button...If it makes ya feel better, go for it.

That's funny. You posted nearly the exact same rant to me the last time we had this argument. Your talking points sure don't change much .. LOL

Look - there's nothing stopping you from posting whatever you like here, as long as it doesn't violate the house rules. The only complaint I have with your posting behavior, is that you post an inordinate number of articles to this site that cast the state of Texas in a negative light.

There's no doubt whatsoever that this is some sort of hobby of yours. That hobby (or obsession) is incompatible with the stated aims and purposes of Free Republic. What you're doing isn't helpful, and does nothing to forward conservatism, or our fight to bring this country closer to its Founding Ideals.

Pointing out the major issues which affect our nation, and the individual states, is something we all have to do, in order to impress our collective intelligence and wisdom toward solving those things. But singling out one particular state for special and consistent castigation is destructive in my view.

In fact, it's especially harmful in light of the fact that, the one state you've chosen to dump on, just happens to be one of the leading bastions of conservatism in the country (despite its troubles with illegal immigration).

Why you have such a hate on for this one state is still a complete mystery to me (and I'm sure, many others).

Lastly, I want to let you know that I spent years battling California haters online. I take consistent attacks against any part of my country personally. I'm afraid that I WILL object whenever I notice a consistent pattern of attack on the USA.

40 posted on 11/19/2010 3:29:32 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
After a search, I found no one had posted this article...Is there a rule here that forbids articles about Texas?

Would you rather no one ever saw this article?

Maybe you should try to have it deleted?

Maybe complain or hit the abuse button...If it makes ya feel better, go for it.

You posted nearly the exact same to me the last time we had this argument.

You're the only person whining and crying here.

Look - there's nothing stopping you from posting whatever you like here

That is so kind of you!!

The only complaint I have with your posting behavior, is that you post an inordinate number of articles to this site that cast the state of Texas in a negative light.

Maybe you'll get a box of Kleenex for Christmas.

Thanks for bumping the thread!

41 posted on 11/19/2010 3:44:07 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: devane617
Buses run from the border specifically to bring illegals to give birth at Parkland.

And it's a one way trip...

Those running Parkland Hospital could care less, as their using other people's money to pay for all this.

42 posted on 11/19/2010 3:52:12 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: heiss
I think this is something that GOP should push in 2012.

When that happens, please ping me.

43 posted on 11/19/2010 3:54:25 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: La Lydia

Thanks for that link!


44 posted on 11/19/2010 3:57:22 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
You're the only person whining and crying here.

Perhaps I'm the only person on the thread who has taken note of your anti-Texas jihad.

You fooled me too, until I began to notice your posting habits.

45 posted on 11/19/2010 4:06:56 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: dalebert

WE’RE not giving it to them, our elected officials and our courts are giving it to them, without consulting us.


46 posted on 11/19/2010 4:07:31 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Either way, we’re still be forced pay for our own demise.

I wished I were joking.


47 posted on 11/19/2010 4:18:43 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: trumandogz

Alter the 14th amendment? The 14th amendment clears states that children born on U.S. and “subject to the jurisdiction thereof “ are citizens. This phrase means that any child that is born on American soil to parents whom are subjects(citizens) and owe their allegiance to America are citizens. It does not give citizenship to children of illegals. The 14th does not need to be altered, it need to be enforced. p.s. the 14th was never ratified by a majority of the states.


48 posted on 11/19/2010 7:33:28 PM PST by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: dragnet2
"These children, who didn't break any laws, would have no rights and nowhere to go," he said. "It's a very extreme position."

They can go HOME with their parents. I'm sick of hearing about how these children didn't do anything wrong. Well, American children didn't do anything wrong, but, they'll be paying for the children of these anchor babies. Those of us who have fought against illegal immigration don't deserve to have those children on our backs. Send them home.

Why do Latinos think they should come here in larger numbers than any other group? Why do they think they should get to break into our country and use, for free, what we and our forefathers built? Why do they think it's ok to have children and expect us to pay for them? Why do they insult us by waving their flags in our face, while demanding our children remove the U.S. flag? Because the judicial, executive and legislative branches of our government have told them they may. On the issue of illegal immigration, we have no representation. This crap better change in January. It's been going on too damn long.

49 posted on 11/19/2010 9:36:27 PM PST by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: dragnet2
I think that a lot of people don’t fully comprehend how easy and how porous this border actually is—given the right initiative, it’s pretty easy for somebody to come into our country undetected.”
50 posted on 11/19/2010 10:13:34 PM PST by smokingfrog (Because you don't live near a bakery doesn't mean you have to go without cheesecake.)
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