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Food Safety Bill s510: Good or Bad News?
Integrative Nutrition Blog ^ | November 18, 2010

Posted on 11/20/2010 4:46:25 AM PST by don-o

The Food Safety Bill s510, considered both influential and controversial, was just passed in the Senate. This comes almost a year and a half after the House passed a bill calling to tighten the nation’s food safety rules. It will be the first time in 70 years that the FDA’s food safety system will be modernized. The bill will permit the FDA to increase inspections of food producers, track fruit and vegetable shipments and place stricter manufacturing standards to attempt to avoid outbreaks of contamination.

Some highly respected health experts are in fact on both sides of the debate—Michael Pollan (Omnivores Dilemma and Food Rules) publicly urged people to call their Senators to prevent the bill from passing, whereas Marion Nestle (Food Politics and What to Eat) thinks it’s about time for updated food safety regulations.

Little is known about the possible unintended consequences of the tighter restrictions that will come with the updated food safety bill. Many individuals and citizen’s groups are concerned that the bill was passed without time for discussions and refinement of the details. In the days leading up to the vote, groups encouraged the public to contact Senators for fear of the immediate passing of the bill without amendments.

Opponents of the bill were concerned that the cost of compliance and large amount of paperwork required would inevitably put small businesses, smaller suppliers, and those who sell directly to consumers, like small family-owned farms, vendors at farmer’s markets, out of business. This has the potential to significantly interfere with organic and small scale food manufacturers as well as various natural supplements.

It seems that only time will tell if Food Safety Bill s510 will actually make our food safer, or if it will lead to a host of other unintended problems.

Considering the safety of our food supply is timely. Increased cases of food borne illness have put consumers on alert. However, are increased government regulations and more red tape the answer? Or is getting back to basics and encouraging more local sustainable agriculture an obvious missing piece to this puzzle?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: fascism; food; foodsafety; notaboutsafety; s510; wakeupamerica
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I posted this blog in the News/Activism forum deliberately to raise awareness. I seems to be a good introduction to some "under the radar" action going on in the lame duck Congress.

I am not fully up to speed myself, but I think it has to pass reconciliation and maybe it can be killed in the House.

If no one has started one, I will manage a ping list on this.

1 posted on 11/20/2010 4:46:32 AM PST by don-o
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To: don-o

Bad news. This is a power grab over a food supply that is just fine.

Americans get good safe food and plenty of it. Why mess with that?

We need to go in the opposite direction and reduce regulation over food.


2 posted on 11/20/2010 4:50:17 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: don-o

” I posted this blog in the News/Activism forum deliberately to raise awareness. “

There’s been a half-dozen threads on this topic over the past couple of days - and I’m glad to see another, because this bill is so bad and far-reaching that we need to get the word out to everyone possible — even the Weekend Lurkers can write to their Congresscritters....

The Bill has *not* passed yet - the vote the other day was for cloture (limit of debate), and as I understand it, it probably won’t come up for a final vote in the Senate until after the Thanksgiving recess.....

This is Nationalization of the entire food chain, and it must be stopped.....


3 posted on 11/20/2010 4:53:18 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Uncle Ike

Yes. I have seen a couple of those threads. May I put to on a ping list?


4 posted on 11/20/2010 5:03:34 AM PST by don-o (Wait. What?)
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To: don-o

“Little is known about the possible unintended consequences of the tighter restrictions that will come with the updated food safety bill.”

THIS alone is a major red flag!


5 posted on 11/20/2010 5:04:02 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: don-o
This is nothing but "big food" using legislation and lobbying power to force out smaller growers and producers and increasingly control the market.

Watch Food Inc. Yes it is biased but it brings up good factual points of what is happening in the US.

6 posted on 11/20/2010 5:09:26 AM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew)
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To: don-o

If it’s passed by Reid & Pelosi it’s bad.


7 posted on 11/20/2010 5:09:44 AM PST by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: SumProVita; don-o

Let’s clear up a misapprehension right off the bat, here — this bill has damn little to do with food ‘safety’ per se...

It’s 250 pages of half-baked notions so vaguely written that it, in essence, gives the FDA carte blanche to sieze control of every aspect of food growing, (including back-yard gardens), processing, transport, storage, and distribution - by regulatory fiat with no provision for due process or recourse.....

Don’t be fooled by the name - it’s a naked power grab, pure and simple....


8 posted on 11/20/2010 5:11:30 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: don-o; All
Michael Geer in “American Thinker” on Food Safety Bill
9 posted on 11/20/2010 5:13:13 AM PST by don-o (Wait. What?)
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To: don-o
The bill will permit the FDA to increase inspections of food producers, track fruit and vegetable shipments and place stricter manufacturing standards to attempt to avoid outbreaks of contamination.

Equals more gubberment workers and bureaucrats. Exactly what we need.

10 posted on 11/20/2010 5:13:27 AM PST by CPOSharky (They ain't "illegals." They are just unregistered democrats.)
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To: Uncle Ike; Mrs. Don-o
this bill has damn little to do with food ‘safety’ per se...

It's 1984 in real time...

The Ministry of Truth exists to tell lies and The Ministry of Love exists to torture resistors into compliance.

Orwell saw it all.

11 posted on 11/20/2010 5:16:14 AM PST by don-o (Wait. What?)
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To: don-o

Anything the government does eventually does not work. Name one thing that has worked. And all of them were initiated because of some real or supposed need. Besides, using a little logic instead of emotion ...How many people have died last year from “bad food?” How many people died in car wrecks in the USA (50,000+). If you look at deaths per 1000 people ... you need to ban cars and leave the food alone.


12 posted on 11/20/2010 5:18:47 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (You are just jealous because the voices aren't talking to YOU!)
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To: Uncle Ike

I have not been fooled at all.

I contacted my senators a few days ago to explain why I wanted them to vote AGAINST this bill.


13 posted on 11/20/2010 5:19:11 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

” I contacted my senators a few days ago to explain why I wanted them to vote AGAINST this bill. “

Thank you....


14 posted on 11/20/2010 5:20:46 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: don-o
Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund

I have not looked at this site in depth, but at first glance, it seems useful. My searching has shown that folks way to the left of us are opposing this as well.

15 posted on 11/20/2010 5:29:30 AM PST by don-o (Wait. What?)
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To: don-o

” My searching has shown that folks way to the left of us are opposing this as well. “

Yep - when I read that American Thinker article you referenced in your earlier post, I was struck by the fact that the author relied heavily - if not exclusively - on quotes from Left-Leaning sources....

It’s a ‘strange bedfellows’ alliance that’s sprung up in opposition to this bill... ;)


16 posted on 11/20/2010 5:32:48 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Uncle Ike; don-o

From the ‘Right’ end of the spectrum —

http://www.truthistreason.net/senate-bill-510-may-be-the-most-dangerous-bill-in-the-history-of-the-us

“Senate Bill 510 May Be the Most Dangerous Bill in the History of the US “


17 posted on 11/20/2010 5:42:57 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Uncle Ike

Thanks for that link. I need to get off the board and be about business. I am unclear about the House in this bill and the Library of Congress site is currently down for maintainece.


18 posted on 11/20/2010 5:49:04 AM PST by don-o (Wait. What?)
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To: don-o

” I am unclear about the House in this bill “

The House version of this Bill (HR2749) passed in July, 2009 - and is waiting in the wings for the Senate to pass S510 for ‘reconciliation’ and final approval....


19 posted on 11/20/2010 5:52:47 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: don-o

“I am not fully up to speed myself, but I think it has to pass reconciliation and maybe it can be killed in the House.”

Wrong, wrong.

It’s just more evil nanny-state fascism sponsored by the multi-national corporations which control the US Senate.


20 posted on 11/20/2010 6:28:28 AM PST by devere
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To: hoyt-clagwell

It is most definitely anti small business in scope. I was discussing this with some Minneapolis lefties who are big on “sustainable local organic” farming, and they were outraged, as well as a bit surprised that they were agreeing with someone on the right. There are a lot of organic farms in Minnesota, and nearly all of them are small family owned businesses. The scale of these farms make the requirements of the tracking paperwork an impossible burden. Using the free market viewpoint, I called this the government using excessive regulation in order to reduce marketplace choice, in order to favor big agribusiness (which recieves most of the agricultural subsidies, BTW). The Food Safety Bill has nothing to do with food safety.

Yikes, I’m sounding like Jason Lewis!


21 posted on 11/20/2010 6:31:12 AM PST by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes.)
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To: don-o

It amazes me that we need a bill to protect food. If the food comes from outside the borders of the US, then it should be checked for safety.

When I think about this, I have to wonder why we worry about food safety when the US government allows people to cross the borders bringing in a resurgence of communicable diseases that we had under control or wiped out.

We have whooping cough back, drug resistent TB, polio, MRSA, to name a few.

Odd times we live in.


22 posted on 11/20/2010 6:37:32 AM PST by dforest
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To: indylindy

“If the food comes from outside the borders of the US, then it should be checked for safety.”

It does - by giving lots of money to the originating countries.


23 posted on 11/20/2010 6:54:24 AM PST by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: don-o

This is the same Congress that gave is Obamacare. Trust ‘em?


24 posted on 11/20/2010 6:55:56 AM PST by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: 1010RD

Food has always been a weapon of dictators, against their own people. This gives BOZ that structure.


25 posted on 11/20/2010 6:59:06 AM PST by Shady (The real work is just beginning!)
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To: wheresmyusa

ping to the Agenda 21 list you’re keeping.


Hi, FReepers, all,

This bill is part and parcel of agenda 21: codex alimentarius. Research this if you don’t know what these are. NWO.


26 posted on 11/20/2010 7:13:52 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: don-o

Who wrote the Bill?

Henry Kissinger declared in the 1970’s, ‘If you control the oil you control the country; if you control food, you control the population.


27 posted on 11/20/2010 7:16:14 AM PST by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: 1010RD

It’s quite simple really. Control the food, control the people.


28 posted on 11/20/2010 7:16:57 AM PST by CajunConservative (0, we'll stop treating you like a dog, when you stop treating us like a hydrant.)
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To: Shady

I agree with your first statement, but as concerned patriots we make a mistake in granting Obama too much power and villainy.

Eventually Obama will be gone, but what remains are his statist allies, both new and extant. We cannot ever let our guard down regardless of who is POTUS or in power.


29 posted on 11/20/2010 7:36:59 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: don-o

Just another in a long line of un-American and un-Constitutional bills to stamp out our freedom and liberty and usher in the New World Order...all controlled by the U.N. and the cronies of those who are in office...

These Progressives are the worst.


30 posted on 11/20/2010 7:39:35 AM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: don-o

Toll-Free number to the Congressional Switchboard

(866) 338-1015


31 posted on 11/20/2010 7:39:55 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: don-o

Controlling the food supply isn’t in my copy of the Constitution. This is bad.


32 posted on 11/20/2010 7:49:40 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: devere
Wrong, wrong.

Help me out here. Are you saying trying too kill the bill when the House votes reconciliation is wrong?

33 posted on 11/20/2010 7:57:52 AM PST by don-o (Wait. What?)
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To: don-o; listenhillary; 9YearLurker; J Edgar; Future Useless Eater; hoosiermama; Quix; exDemMom; ...
One and only one ping. If you wish to be on a "Food Safety" ping list, post to the thread or FReepmail me.

AND

See this thread for Action Plan.

34 posted on 11/20/2010 8:14:14 AM PST by don-o (Wait. What?)
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To: don-o

Please add me too, thanks don-o


35 posted on 11/20/2010 8:18:12 AM PST by justsaynomore ("We the people are still in charge of this country!" - Herman Cain)
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To: justsaynomore

Done.


36 posted on 11/20/2010 8:20:15 AM PST by don-o (Wait. What?)
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To: don-o

Of course.

Thanks and for coming up with an action plan.


37 posted on 11/20/2010 8:43:01 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: don-o

Nancy the wicked witch has pledged to pass S510 unamended as-is.


38 posted on 11/20/2010 8:48:09 AM PST by devere
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To: SWAMPSNIPER; Domestic Church; rightly_dividing; combat_boots; bronxville; cripplecreek; Gipper08; ..
Thanks combat_boots!




FReepMail me to be put on or off this Ping List!

39 posted on 11/20/2010 8:54:40 AM PST by wheresmyusa (FTUN)
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To: Uncle Ike

“Don’t be fooled by the name- it’s a naked power grab”.

Absolutely. No backyard gardens. You are in violation if you grow tomatoes, for example, and give some to your neighbor. It is a way of CONTROLLING what we eat and the ability to grow our own food. Bad, bad, bad. As a frequent consumer of front yard stands with tomatoes, cucumbers, etc... that were picked that morning from their own garden, I am outraged. Control the populations food and you control the population. Just a thought.


40 posted on 11/20/2010 9:15:58 AM PST by momtothree
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To: 1010RD

This is bad news with a capital “B”. Nothing more than another government power grab and a restriction of our Constitutional rights. It has got to be defeated. Do you want the FDA stomping through your backyard inspecting your garden?


41 posted on 11/20/2010 10:00:25 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Possible resource for more info on this thing

S510 on opencongress.org

42 posted on 11/20/2010 11:31:13 AM PST by don-o (Wait. What?)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Nope, just one more thing for our new Congress to undo.

My hope is it will make Americans grateful so we can hold Congress for a generation. This is all over the organics, gardening, and farming communities. That’s good for our side.


43 posted on 11/20/2010 12:31:50 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Congress is likely to pick up S. 510, a sweeping overhaul of food safety regulation, in the lame duck session starting in November 2010.

Short video concerning writing the FDA a :blank check" to empower it to do whatever it deems necessary and proper

44 posted on 11/20/2010 12:41:28 PM PST by don-o (Wait. What?)
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To: 1010RD

Agreed. He is just the puppet. He is too dumb to coordinate all this.


45 posted on 11/20/2010 12:56:27 PM PST by Shady (The real work is just beginning!)
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To: don-o

Ping Don-O thanks!


46 posted on 11/20/2010 1:05:51 PM PST by Shady (The real work is just beginning!)
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To: don-o; 1010RD; CajunConservative; combat_boots; CPOSharky; ctdonath2; Dead Corpse; devere; ...

Food Nazi’s with guns RAIDING a small food co-op!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioN0ehlyyXI&feature=player_embedded

Are we going to let the lame duck congress give FDA or HOMELAND SECURITY the power to take over our FOOD too?

Haven’t they ‘Nationalized’ enough already?


47 posted on 11/20/2010 2:00:07 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: Future Useless Eater
Kinda makes me want to sign off and get effing busy.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

48 posted on 11/20/2010 2:09:29 PM PST by The Comedian (I enjoy progressives, especially in a light cream sauce.)
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To: Future Useless Eater

Thanks for the ping!


49 posted on 11/20/2010 2:12:26 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Future Useless Eater

The Senate vote will not occur until the week of November 29. You have plenty of time to email, fax and telephone until then. The House bill HR 875 I have not heard anything about, but if the Dems pass that it will have to be that same week. If the Republicans support it, they will lose again in 2012.


50 posted on 11/20/2010 2:14:25 PM PST by TommyDale
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