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Mitt Romney delays run, but experts say hes a sure bet
Boston Herald ^ | 11/20/2010 | By Hillary Chabot

Posted on 11/20/2010 5:49:16 AM PST by BuzzKillington

Former Gov. Mitt Romney, a likely GOP presidential candidate for 2012, told supporters he won’t announce his candidacy before the end of the year — but political analysts said yesterday the discussion is the strongest indicator yet that he’ll run.

“We know who is running, they’re just doing everything but coming out and saying so,” said Andy Smith, director of the Political Center at the University of New Hampshire.

Romney held a conference call with 245 of his top supporters Thursday and told them that unlike his failed 2008 run, he won’t be announcing until later in the cycle, according to a Romney campaign source.

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I still dont understand how he thinks he can win. Am I going to have to skip the 2012 election as well?
1 posted on 11/20/2010 5:49:18 AM PST by BuzzKillington
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To: BuzzKillington

I still don’t understand how he thinks he can win.

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Absolute hubris.


2 posted on 11/20/2010 5:55:01 AM PST by Psalm 144
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To: BuzzKillington


Karl Rove and his RINO lackeys are clueless. Romney will NOT be the nominee.
3 posted on 11/20/2010 5:55:18 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: BuzzKillington

I’m not a fan of his, but am happy he is running. We need a vigorous primary to get the best candidate. No McCains or Doles.


4 posted on 11/20/2010 5:55:23 AM PST by tips up
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To: BuzzKillington

“Am I going to have to skip the 2012 election as well?”

Nope...he will NOT be nominated.


5 posted on 11/20/2010 5:55:23 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: BuzzKillington
Am I going to have to skip the 2012 election as well?

The only reason Romney even has a shot at getting the nomination is because the GOP still insists on having its first primaries in blue states that allow for Democrats to choose GOP candidates. Get the first contests out of Iowa and New Hampshire, and close them all to GOP members only and Romney and his ilk will not be as big a threat.

If Romney gets the nomination, my wife and I will vote third party in 2012, even if it means 0bama being re-elected. I refuse to vote for someone who supports in lockstep with every liberal policy position that comes down the pike.

6 posted on 11/20/2010 5:58:00 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: BuzzKillington

RINO and Son


7 posted on 11/20/2010 5:58:00 AM PST by FrankR (Don't let the bastards wear you down!)
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To: pnh102

The only reason Romney even has a shot at getting the nomination is because the GOP still insists on having its first primaries in blue states that allow for Democrats to choose GOP candidates.

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Because the GOP’s principle function is to placate and control conservatives, not represent them. As an institution, it is a false front.


8 posted on 11/20/2010 6:01:39 AM PST by Psalm 144
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To: FrankR

Exactly.

Romney-Brown 2012.

Coming soon from Tokyo Rove.


9 posted on 11/20/2010 6:03:25 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: BuzzKillington
Mitt Romney must be seething at the current situation.

He has the political pedigree, he's had the establishment behind him for years, more money than he needs, and a record of accomplishment in the private sector that puts his all his potential rivals to shame.

And yet, and yet...he faces the real prospect of defeat by this "little lady" from Alaska who has started the race with not one of his many advantages.

If Romney is waiting, he's waiting to see if he can avoid a humiliating defeat. To lose to a veteran establishment Senator like McCain is one thing. To lose to Sarah Palin would be far worse to him.

10 posted on 11/20/2010 6:03:35 AM PST by Loyalist (Tagline void where prohibited.)
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To: Psalm 144

I would make a bet that the GOP establishment will back Romney.

It will be up to us to reject him.

We must take back our Party with force at the ballot box.
Send all RINO’s packing or be ready to enjoy another 4 years under Obama.


11 posted on 11/20/2010 6:06:06 AM PST by Venturer
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To: BuzzKillington

Mitt’s got nothing else to do.

I think that Obama has made a Romney nomination more likely though. The Dem defectors will be voting in the GOP primaries this time.


12 posted on 11/20/2010 6:07:43 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Loyalist


Romney is only waiting to see the effects of Karl Rove's SCORCHED EARTH campaign against Sarah Palin.
13 posted on 11/20/2010 6:09:44 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: BuzzKillington; andy58-in-nh; All

credit to andy58-in-nh ....

14 posted on 11/20/2010 6:11:20 AM PST by j.argese (Boycott Nevada.)
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To: BuzzKillington

He’s waiting to find out what his lifelong deeply held convictions will be for this election cycle.


15 posted on 11/20/2010 6:11:40 AM PST by glorgau
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To: BuzzKillington

A progressive is a progressive. I’m sure if there is a real Conservative candidate, Mitt can expect funding from the same shadow folks who got McCain back in the race.


16 posted on 11/20/2010 6:12:01 AM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: jimbo123

Well, here’s a quandary: should we wonder if Romney’s holding his breath and is that a good or a bad thing?

I wouldn’t bet that trying to scorch Sarah Palin is all that effective. It worked against national newcomer Christine O’Donnell, but then she kind of piled on herself. Sarah is now toughened, and doesn’t add fuel to her own fire (not that she has to: all she has to do is exist to draw fire). Rove might well continue to try to undermine her, but if someone doesn’t like her, it won’t be because Karl Rove said mean things.

So if Romney is standing there with baited breath waiting for Karl Rove to knock Sarah over, he might well have to take a breath or...never have to. So, is this a good or a bad thing? One simply ponders... :P


17 posted on 11/20/2010 6:13:38 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: Loyalist

Or at least to see if FL primary’in is gonna cost him another 130 million. ha ha


18 posted on 11/20/2010 6:17:07 AM PST by txhurl (If we can shake Congress like a can of pennies, we can uproot voter fraud like a D-9.)
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To: Venturer
I would make a bet that the GOP establishment will back Romney.

It's almost certain. Those who insist he won't be the nominee, need to recall how many of us insisted John McCain wouldn't be the 2008 choice.

Especially bad scenario, if 0bama decides to run for re-election and the GOP primaries remain open where they were in 2008. Because if 0bama has no viable challengers, the Dem voters will cross over and vote in our primaries, and they'll vote for "Anybody But Palin."

Closing the primaries is absolutely essential. And even then, Romney's a much more obvious threat than McCain was.

19 posted on 11/20/2010 6:21:11 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: BuzzKillington
I have seen this movie before.

Willard: "Do you duty. For me, as I hide, out of sight.
You will embrace these attacks on Gov. Palin and her children.
Join Rove and the others. Put her down.
Just like Election 2008. Just like Election 2010.
Create, then support, the attacks from our northern lands.
Use our bought media, and plants within the Obama and Palin teams.
Promise anything like before. ordering them opposed from our lands in the south.
Whichever way the tide runs, we will rise and only I will be left standing.
"

20 posted on 11/20/2010 6:21:52 AM PST by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: BelegStrongbow

If FL hadn’t shoved McLettuce down our throat, we wouldn’t have had Obama, but then we wouldn’t have Sarah and the Tea Party which turned America back red this month.

Yesterday Mark Steyn did another ‘if we hadn’t had’ with Jumpin’ Jim Jeffords and some Teacher’s party?, which I was following intently until I almost backed up into a tree. Anybody else listening to that?


21 posted on 11/20/2010 6:23:14 AM PST by txhurl (If we can shake Congress like a can of pennies, we can uproot voter fraud like a D-9.)
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To: BuzzKillington
I still dont understand how he thinks he can win.

He has the support of the GOP ruling class. The little people who don't support him don't exist in his world.

22 posted on 11/20/2010 6:24:55 AM PST by Moonman62 (Half of all Americans are above average.)
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To: BelegStrongbow

Karl Rove’s unbalanced actions have demonstrated that he has some major issues with women.

His misogynism might be driven by rage against his ex-wife or it could be closeted homosexual conflict or both.

But his rage against women has made Rove unbalanced and unstable. I expect Rove’s backer will start deserting him as his madness progresses over the next year.


23 posted on 11/20/2010 6:26:41 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

You never step into the same election twice, though.

It’s not at all clear that Romney will be the only establishment candidate running. A series of lesser lights, such as Barbour, Pawlenty, Daniels and Thune may be competing for Romney’s establishment bloc and they will win a good share of it away.

If conservatives coalesce behind Palin while the RINOs splinter, it will not be a cakewalk for Romney.


24 posted on 11/20/2010 6:29:20 AM PST by Loyalist (Tagline void where prohibited.)
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To: BuzzKillington

Maybe the Romneybots will hold their breath until he announces.


25 posted on 11/20/2010 6:31:30 AM PST by mazda77 (Mike Hogan - JAX Mayor)
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To: BuzzKillington
Mitt Romney is unelectable.
However, Gov. Palin is ineluctable.


26 posted on 11/20/2010 6:32:11 AM PST by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: BuzzKillington

He is so YESTERDAY. I wanted him in 2008, considering that the only other choices were McCain and that criminal coddler. But that was 2008. Now, for me at least, it’s DeMint.


27 posted on 11/20/2010 6:34:31 AM PST by BobL (The whole point of being human is knowing when the party's over.)
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To: BuzzKillington

The RNC & Rinos are thinking Smurkowski. The people are thinking Palin, DeMint.


28 posted on 11/20/2010 6:36:02 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: BelegStrongbow
So if Romney is standing there with baited breath ....

What's he baiting it with?

29 posted on 11/20/2010 6:36:14 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: glorgau
He’s waiting to find out what his lifelong deeply held convictions will be for this election cycle.

Wahoo!!! We have a winner.

You win the USS Alaska best post of the week award.

Take a copy of this award to any Giant Eagle in your area, tell them you know I'm good for it, and buy whatever you want.

Joking aside, that one sentence is the real problem that we all have with mitty, no core values, not now, not ever.

30 posted on 11/20/2010 6:37:42 AM PST by USS Alaska
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To: txhurl

I was trying to follow Mark yesterday, but was at work and couldn’t afford more than half-an-ear half the time. I didn’t hear that particular bit, so it’s up to someone else to help you out.

My take-away is that the whole 2008 debacle was an example of divine providence. You can’t really predict what is going to happen even if you have all the data because some little something will come along that overturns all the predictions (that little “something” would in this case be, obviously, Sarahcuda). It’s the Christian version of the butterfly effect and it means we always must have hope, no matter how bleak it looks. Obama continues to be hopelessly tone-deaf to reality and the Dems re-nominate the ultimate loser Pelosi to ‘lead’ them. Sort of like a bunch of lemmings voting for the one who just jumped off the cliff as their standard-bearer (then again, what do I mean ‘is like’: it IS).

McLettuce, as you call him (a new one on me, but I’m otay wid it), was actually just who the Pubbies needed. He displayed the very essence of establishment RINOcity, giving the American people a standard by which to measure those who had insulated themselves from consensus reality and now operated from within a sinecure. Nobody else in the country has such assured safety and so we get the business end of the fatuous proposals they casually think will solve all our problems.

The TEA Party was, as you say, the direct result of this. Many Democrats, from city board member on up, got the business end of this little development. In my own state of NC, we actually overturned Democrat control of the state in both houses for the first time since 1898 (when Wilmington went up in flames). That’s revulsion against a political party that has been the definition of politics in the Carolinas for decades. No longer. The only question is whether the Dem lawyers here will be able to throttle any redistricting attempts in the courts, which are still populated by Dem-leaning judges. We managed to get a number of Rep-leaning judges elected in the current cycle, which diminishes the probabilities but there will still be a battle.

I don’t like to quote Hannity much, but he’s right about this: we’ve only won the first skirmish. The real battle now lies ahead, as I’m sure you very well know. If I’m telling anyone, I’m telling myself and just trying to convey where I stand because I’ll try to be here, adding my two cents to the verbal campaign to get our beloved Federal nation back on the right track.

As always, God bless America and keep her as the apple of His eye.


31 posted on 11/20/2010 6:37:57 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: Moonman62

On the concerns of Florida and the Ruling Class, just look to Charlie Crist and Marco Rubio in addition to the other top races of Scott vs. McCullom and whatever his name was vs. Bondi. Except for South Florida, the establishment was dealt a punishing blow in the primaries that extended into the general. Virtually all of the non-establishment candidates are now going to move into office come January. Hopefully, the same will be the case for our city races in March and April.


32 posted on 11/20/2010 6:38:53 AM PST by mazda77 (Mike Hogan - JAX Mayor)
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To: jimbo123

You might be right or it could honestly be a case that Rove is Machiavellian to his core and believes only in power-politics. People like Sarah do not play such politics, but simply proclaim truth as they understand it. It;s the Cincinnatus approach and uttely opposed to Machiavelli. Rove only plays the odds, Sarah couldn’t care less about the odds. They would never play well together no matter how their other characteristics relate.


33 posted on 11/20/2010 6:40:45 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: BuzzKillington

34 posted on 11/20/2010 6:43:07 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
So if Romney is standing there with baited breath ....

What's he baiting it with?

OOPS!! That should be 'bated'. Good call!

35 posted on 11/20/2010 6:43:07 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: BuzzKillington

You know, early in 2009 when the GOP seemed to be on the run, when they were so demoralized they thought they had no choice but to give O everything he wanted, when I think some of them thought the GOP was over, I said then that just about anyone could be the next president if they would just step up and fight. Whatever their past failures, whatever their past baggage, whatever their past indiscretions, if they would just fight it could be a new day for them.

And who stepped up, but the lady from Alaska. None of the guys I expected to step up, did. She did. They waited until after she landed the first blows and took the first brickbats in return, and only when she made it politically safe to stand up did any of them stand up. And some haven’t stood up yet.

The list of leaders and fighters in this party is very short. She is on that list, and Romney most assuredly is not. He wants to be president? Good. When did he get in Obama’s face? When did he take Obama on mano a mano? I don’t seem to remember it and no one else does either. Romney is one of those Repubs who sees this as a fight against other Repubs to get to the brass ring. Palin and DeMint and a very few others always saw O as the one they had to beat. Which is why one of them will be president, and Romney won’t.


36 posted on 11/20/2010 6:44:37 AM PST by marron
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To: BuzzKillington

I would cut my legs off first if I had to vote for Romney. I understand his campaign manager is Jane Fonda, but I could be wrong.


37 posted on 11/20/2010 6:46:27 AM PST by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: BuzzKillington
Why will having the Nation ruled Boston style be any better than having it ruled Chicago style?

The big city mindset is destroying the Nation!

38 posted on 11/20/2010 6:47:43 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: steveab

I despise Romney. In fact, I would vote for Obama before Romney.

I would rather vote for someone that is honestly a liberal lunatic than one who is either in denial or who is outright lying about his stands.

I spent years under this dope as Gov. What I got from it was Romney care.

He is an empty suit.


39 posted on 11/20/2010 6:50:05 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Don't taze my junk bro.)
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To: BuzzKillington

I will stay home if Romney is nominated.


40 posted on 11/20/2010 6:50:30 AM PST by sbMKE
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To: BuzzKillington

"I am not a backstabber (when I am with Martin Luther King)"


The Palmetto Scoop reported:
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney's former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.

"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"


Poor sport spoiler Romney doing what he does best:

Novak: "Fred Thompson drop-out rumors traced to Romney campaign"

Said Novak: "The rumors were traced in part to Mitt Romney's campaign,
trying to stir up strife between McCain and Thompson
."


"Despite outspending his rivals by huge margins throughout the primaries,
(Mitt Romney, Carpetbagger UT,CA,MA,NH,Mexico) lost Iowa, South Carolina, Florida and California.
The only primaries he won were in Michigan, where Dad was governor; LDS states;
and a few states on Super Tuesday in which his California-obsessed rivals
couldn't spare the cash to advertise.
Only John Connolly in 1968 had a worse cash-to-delegates ratio.
And John McCain rightly did not like Romney's tactics during the primaries.
(W)hen (Romney's early leads) started slipping away, he resorted to unfair,
distorted, scorched-earth negative ads, betting that his opponents couldn't
afford to spend enough for the truth to catch up to his charges."

[Romney: A Mistake for McCain, 7/23/2008, Dick Morris]


"Go Mitt. Go Mitt. Go Mitt."


"Rove is pushing Romney so aggressively some folks are beginning to wonder what's going on," grumbled one veteran Republican strategist."


"Rove has made no secret of his support for Romney as McCain's VP. "

41 posted on 11/20/2010 6:52:30 AM PST by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: Vermont Lt

“He is an empty suit.”
He’s more than a “empty suit”, he’s a danger to the Republic.


42 posted on 11/20/2010 6:54:09 AM PST by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: glorgau
"He’s waiting to find out what his lifelong deeply held convictions will be for this election cycle."

Priceless. It's funny 'cause it's true.
43 posted on 11/20/2010 6:59:06 AM PST by chickadee
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To: BobL

“Now, for me at least, it’s DeMint.”

Me, too. He’d be great.


44 posted on 11/20/2010 7:00:49 AM PST by ncphinsfan
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To: BuzzKillington

He may run, but I doubt he can win.

Unless the economy shows drastic improvement in the next 18 months, Obama may be forced off the ticket by his how party. That could pave the way for hClinton, and she would be formidable against nominee Romney — because she now has solid experience as a twice-elected US Senator and Secretary of State.

Of course, nominees Huckabee, Gingrich, jBush would also face uphill battles, as each has massive baggage (jBush’s being Daddy and Bro not-so-stellar presidential administrations).


45 posted on 11/20/2010 7:07:08 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Loyalist
And yet, and yet...he faces the real prospect of defeat by this "little lady" from Alaska who has started the race with not one of his many advantages.

Sarah may not have been born with advantages, but her character, faith, intellect, and passion for America and the truth far exceed the advantages of Mitt.

46 posted on 11/20/2010 7:09:30 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: BelegStrongbow
In Mitt's case, maybe it is "baited!"
47 posted on 11/20/2010 7:10:23 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: BuzzKillington
I initially Supported Mitt Romney in the 2008 campaign but now I have some......."concerns" about his ability to win the nomination

I have some Concerns,Concern cat,Concern Troll,Sarah Palin Concern,Zot

Just a little humor here people, we can NOT allow Mr. Abortion to win the nomination, then any chance of a Health care repeal goes out the window, and for me that is perhaps the MOST important thing the next president will have to do!

48 posted on 11/20/2010 7:12:19 AM PST by KC_Lion (Lord help our Armed Service members that they not become pawns in Hussein's quest to destroy America)
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To: pnh102
Iowa has a caucus system. It is held at the same time as the Democrat caucus so a voter cannot attend both. Sure anyone can come to the caucus but they must register as a Republican, even if for that brief period of time BUT how do you make sure only devout Republicans attend. The process is open to everyone.

Even during our primaries, when voter goes to the polls, they must choose one party only to receive the ballot.

How are you going to change it?

49 posted on 11/20/2010 7:18:51 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Venturer

Who the hell is the “establishment”? Gosh, I wish someone would explain it to me so I can be on the lookout for them.


50 posted on 11/20/2010 7:20:38 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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