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John F. Kennedy's Secret Service agents break their silence in book, documentary
Dallas Morning News ^ | 11/21/10 | By JEFF MOSIER

Posted on 11/21/2010 5:33:08 AM PST by JNRoberts

On Saturday, Hill made his second trip to Dallas this year, this time to open up to the world.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: alteredtitle; assassination; jfk; lbj
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The article is about yesterday's gathering at the JFK museum here in Dallas. And in case you don't know, all of the Secret Service people involved believe Oswald acted alone. As does ANYONE who has done a serious study. From Oswald's own brother, to his wife (back in 63, she has since changed her tune as many have to get attention)...etc. etc......Freepers who think it was a conspiracy are a little like the LEFT on this....just plain whacked out.....Get Vincent Bugliosi's book "4 Days in November".....you'll be embarrassed you ever believed it was a conspiracy.
1 posted on 11/21/2010 5:33:12 AM PST by JNRoberts
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To: JNRoberts
Actual title: John F. Kennedy's Secret Service agents break their silence in book, documentary
2 posted on 11/21/2010 5:36:35 AM PST by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: humblegunner

Oh yeah....sorry....my bad.


3 posted on 11/21/2010 5:38:04 AM PST by JNRoberts
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To: humblegunner; JNRoberts

Thanks gunner, some posters just refuse to follow the rules.


4 posted on 11/21/2010 5:39:02 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: JNRoberts

JNR - you seem to be taking this a bit too seriously. If people have a differing opinion what harm is there in that? It isn’t going to change what happened.

Having said that, I’ve been to the museum myself. Dealy Plaza is a lot smaller than I thought it would be. Looking out of the 6th floor windows, I can easily see how a military trained rifleman could make that shot. As former police officer I’m half tempted to say I could have made that shot with my service weapon.


5 posted on 11/21/2010 5:39:14 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Conservatives want a CHOICE not an echo - No more RINOs!)
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To: JNRoberts

No problem.
I just accidentally make up fake titles all the time.

It happens.


6 posted on 11/21/2010 5:40:16 AM PST by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: JNRoberts
There aren't enough JFK threads on FR for you to make your opinion known without posting a vanity to mock other FReepers, AH?

Personally, I don't care who killed him, but I wish the rest of the cursed clan would hurry up and join him and his brothers in hell.

7 posted on 11/21/2010 5:40:35 AM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: JNRoberts

Dang.....a few Freepers woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Hope I didn’t ruin your day......LOL!


8 posted on 11/21/2010 5:42:26 AM PST by JNRoberts
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To: JNRoberts; All

I’m absolutely totally and completely whacky and proud of it.


9 posted on 11/21/2010 5:42:43 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

History channel had an excellent special a few months back on the whole scenario including Oliver Stones BS. It was excellent and debunked all conspiracy theories.


10 posted on 11/21/2010 5:42:57 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: JNRoberts
*** Freepers who think it was a conspiracy are a little like the LEFT on this....just plain whacked out***

Yo, semi NOOB.

11 posted on 11/21/2010 5:43:03 AM PST by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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To: JNRoberts

That should read:

Freepers who give a sh!t about the JFK assasination conspiracy are whacky.


12 posted on 11/21/2010 5:43:43 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (I'm armed and Amish.)
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To: JNRoberts
Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura

Just sayin'
13 posted on 11/21/2010 5:44:25 AM PST by Edgar3 (Don't THREAD on me!)
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To: JNRoberts

No one is in the mood for such unimportant crap as the JFK assassination when we are being overtaken by Marxists and Muslims.


14 posted on 11/21/2010 5:45:11 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: JNRoberts

I think you need to get a grip and stop telling others what their opinions should be. I don’t care who killed him. But NO ONE is going to tell me what THEY think my opinion is.


15 posted on 11/21/2010 5:45:48 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: traderrob6

Yeah, I think the special the article mentions is going to shown tomorrow night on Discovery. Ive read every credible book, been there many times, Posner’s book “Case Closed” is a good one as is “Without Malice”....my prize and treasured book....very rare, very expensive, .....it’s about J.D. Tippit...you have about 5 eyewitnesses to Oswald killing him....and you still have conspirators that Tippit was involved....it’s whacky stuff.......


16 posted on 11/21/2010 5:45:53 AM PST by JNRoberts
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To: JNRoberts

To prevent duplication, please do not alter the published article title, thanks.


17 posted on 11/21/2010 5:45:53 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: JNRoberts

Discovery Channel (I think, could have been History Channel) did a show attempting to replicate the shot that killed JFK. Conspiracy buffs contend that bullet could not possibly have followed the trajectory it did but the test bullet performed almost identically to the real one. That settled it for me. Far more interesting in that whole tragedy was the murder of Oswald by Jack Ruby and his subsequent death while in custody.


18 posted on 11/21/2010 5:46:52 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: JNRoberts

I do not what to think, but I actually met this man Johnny in Miami at a neighbor’s party. He was a friend of their father’s. He was a government witness and later was found dead. At the time I just thought he was an old man with dark sunglasses on in the house. Kind of made me wonder about conspiracy after they found him dead.

from article, link below:
Mafia hitman Johnny Roselli was murdered before he could testify before the committee: in September 1976, the Washington Post will print excerpts from Roselli’s last interview, with journalist Jack Anderson, before his death; Anderson will write, “When [Kennedy assassin Lee Harvey] Oswald was picked up, the underworld conspirators feared he would crack and disclose information that might lead to them. This almost certainly would have brought a massive US crackdown on the Mafia. So Jack Ruby was ordered to eliminate Oswald.” (Anderson’s contention has not been proven.) The murders of Giancana and Roselli, and the disappearance and apparent murder of Hoffa, will lead to an inconclusive investigation by the House of the assassinations of Kennedy and King. [Spartacus Educational, 12/18/2002]

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=johnny_roselli_1


19 posted on 11/21/2010 5:47:18 AM PST by Hang'emAll
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Ok...looks like I ruined a lot Freeper’s day....I know.....things like that can ruin my day too. Oh....and sorry about the subject...I tomorrow being the 47 anniversary of what is arguably, the 1 or 2 most shocking moments of the last century....why would I ever put up a subject about it....my bad......LOL!


20 posted on 11/21/2010 5:48:15 AM PST by JNRoberts
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To: Hang'emAll

A similar fate befell Sam Giancana.


21 posted on 11/21/2010 5:49:22 AM PST by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: JNRoberts

Sarah Palin needs to go on Facebook and DEMAND THAT OBAMA PUT A STOP TO THIS

Lay it all on his feet

This would have a huge effect- personalizing it to Obozo and the democraps, and if he keeps it then it becomes a campaign issue


22 posted on 11/21/2010 5:49:27 AM PST by Mr. K (TSA Sexual Assaulters: "You dont get on until we get off")
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To: JNRoberts

Smart A$$es and wet toilet paper.


23 posted on 11/21/2010 5:50:42 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6
It was excellent and debunked all conspiracy theories.

Are you talking about the guy who made the computer simulation which claims to explain the "magic bullet" (with +/- 1 millimeter accuracy) based on data obtained from the Zapruder film, a single point of observation where the exact point of observation of the cameraman (to millimeter accuracy) isn't known? If you believe that tripe it is abundantly clear that Trigonometry isn't your strong suit.....

24 posted on 11/21/2010 5:51:20 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: JNRoberts

I’ll tell you first hand that the skepticism for many comes from the fact: 1. we don’t care enough about who killed this character to read anything much about it, and 2. We know enough about shooting to know that the Commission’s proclamation that the shooting was “very easy” for Oswald was pure BS.


25 posted on 11/21/2010 5:51:49 AM PST by anton
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To: Mr. K

Yeah because I, like you, am losing sleep over something that won’t happen for about 2 more years.....


26 posted on 11/21/2010 5:52:19 AM PST by JNRoberts
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To: Thermalseeker

No, not the same one.


27 posted on 11/21/2010 5:52:49 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6

Are you going to be ok? Putting the wrong title on a post drive me insane too! LOL!


28 posted on 11/21/2010 5:54:55 AM PST by JNRoberts
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To: JNRoberts

FWIW, I agree with you.


29 posted on 11/21/2010 5:55:25 AM PST by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: Mr. K

oops

I posted this answer to the wrong thread!


30 posted on 11/21/2010 5:55:54 AM PST by Mr. K (TSA Sexual Assaulters: "You dont get on until we get off")
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To: JNRoberts
why would I ever put up a subject about it

The topic isn't the problem.

The made-up title IS.

Or WAS, now that it's been corrected.

You can't re-title someone else's work.

31 posted on 11/21/2010 5:56:14 AM PST by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: JNRoberts

Speaking of insane, you laugh out loud a lot. I suppose that’s the way it is when you continually slay yourself.


32 posted on 11/21/2010 5:58:33 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: JNRoberts

Case Closed, by Gerald Posner is a decent read on the subject, IMO.

And yes, tomorrow, Nov. 22, is the date. Interesting that nothing much has been on TV about the event.


33 posted on 11/21/2010 5:59:37 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: saganite

Yes..on the trajectory, they ingore how Kennedy was sitting, etc. Bugliosi’s epic book, 1000 pages, released a couple of years ago, is the best of all.....he makes a mockery of all of the conspiracy theories.....one of which is that the driver of the car actually killed JFK......Bugliosi does a great job......

http://www.amazon.com/Reclaiming-History-Assassination-President-Kennedy/dp/0393045250/ref=pd_sim_b_2


34 posted on 11/21/2010 5:59:50 AM PST by JNRoberts
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To: anton
" We know enough about shooting to know that the Commission’s proclamation that the shooting was “very easy” for Oswald was pure BS."

In a nutshell ... there it is.

35 posted on 11/21/2010 6:00:44 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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Last year about this time, I visited the Dallas venue and the museum described in the article. I also visited the LBJ ranch.

I did not add appreciably to my understqanding of the fog that covers the event.

Here is what happened...... the best description of the whole plot. It is long but too detailed to be wrong.

Robert Gaylon Ross Sr. interview with Madeleine Duncan Brown Here...... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6962062879996612313#

36 posted on 11/21/2010 6:01:09 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event)
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To: traderrob6

You gonna be ok? I think there is counseling available for the trauma suffered by Freepers who actually witness posts with the wrong title..we dont want long term effects........hahahaha......LOL!


37 posted on 11/21/2010 6:01:49 AM PST by JNRoberts
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To: JNRoberts

Bfl


38 posted on 11/21/2010 6:04:17 AM PST by earlJam
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To: JNRoberts

Do you know if it was a mille or contrails? Since you got this JFK thing figured out, I thought you might know definitively. (/snark)


39 posted on 11/21/2010 6:04:27 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: abb

Posner is a good read but there are some holes with Bugliosi addresses. Posner is my friend on Facebook.....he and his wife are really nice people.....he sent me his book about the US Saudi connection free......nice guy......Tippit is a sad story in all of this......he was a very decent, very good family man......wrong place wrong time......even Oswald after he shot him is heard mumbling something about “poor fool” or somthing to that effect.....Oswald was a LEFT wing loser.nobodey like him, cared for him and he hated work......


40 posted on 11/21/2010 6:04:44 AM PST by JNRoberts
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To: Keith in Iowa

Yeah...I got O.J. figured out too. Not that hard....read up on it sometime.


41 posted on 11/21/2010 6:05:49 AM PST by JNRoberts
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To: JNRoberts

I wouldn’t get Vince Bugliosi’s “50 Methods for Post Bowel Movement Anal Sphincter Clean Up and Hygiene Guide”. He’s not only a Dem. He’s a loony Dem Lefty.


42 posted on 11/21/2010 6:06:29 AM PST by j.argese (Boycott Nevada.)
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To: humblegunner

Yeah......I said “my bad” and thanked you right after you brought it to my attention. But you seem to be permanently damaged by this horrible event. I hope you obtain the help that is available for this type of trauma you suffered.


43 posted on 11/21/2010 6:08:34 AM PST by JNRoberts
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To: TommyDale
No one is in the mood for such unimportant crap as the JFK assassination when we are being overtaken by Marxists and Muslims.

The whole conspiracy mentality, whether 9/11 troofers or grassy knollicans, bespeaks an appalling unhealthy cynicism and intellectual frivilousness. The relative importance of the events aside, it is evidence of a mindset that is susceptible to irrational and paranoid impulses, the same impulses that embrace halfbacked gimcrack economic and political theories like Nazism, Communism and Obamism.

44 posted on 11/21/2010 6:10:23 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: j.argese

Yeah, I don’t agree with his politics but I am weird in certain ways. I actually believe a person with the experience as a career prosecutor who put Charles Manson away for life for Murders he didn’t commit, who wrote a book on why O.J. is guilty, one of the most thorough books on the O.J. murder..well....I actually believe he might have potential to investigate on write on this subject......silly me huh?..I should stick to you kind of comments....now that’s talent!


45 posted on 11/21/2010 6:12:27 AM PST by JNRoberts
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To: JNRoberts

Applying Occam’s Razor to the entire scenario, it is clear that Oswald was the lone assassin and also planned it alone.

A giant, multi-level conspiracy would not have worked.

Someone, somewhere wouldn’t have gotten the word and/or would not have accomplished their assigned task properly.

The only plausible way to do what was done - how it was done - was for a loner to do it.

All one has to do is apply logic.


46 posted on 11/21/2010 6:12:46 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Excellent. Dennis Prager talks about this mindset and that is what is important. It’s a mistrust of Conservative Govt. by the LEFT. That’s why they don’t trust the Warren Commission.

Very good points....thanks.


47 posted on 11/21/2010 6:14:44 AM PST by JNRoberts
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To: TommyDale
No one is in the mood for such unimportant crap as the JFK assassination when we are being overtaken by Marxists and Muslims.

True, the JFK assassination pales in front of the Marxist and Muslim onslaught but it also is a reminder that sometimes it only takes one man to change history.

48 posted on 11/21/2010 6:14:53 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: anton
We know enough about shooting to know that the Commission’s proclamation that the shooting was “very easy” for Oswald was pure BS.
As a former Marine (who qualified Expert four times w/ M14) I totally disagree.
49 posted on 11/21/2010 6:15:35 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: abb

Watch this.....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6962062879996612313#


50 posted on 11/21/2010 6:15:35 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event)
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