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Refuse to be groped or scanned - face $11,000 fine and/or arrest
Examiner.com ^ | 11/20/2010 | Joe Newby

Posted on 11/21/2010 7:10:40 AM PST by FredJake

For travelers going through Spokane International Airport - or any airport - this holiday season, the choice is simple. Either go through a device that allows security personnel to see your body through your clothing, get felt up and groped, or find another way to your destination.

According to an article at the Sun-Sentinel:

The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is warning that any would-be commercial airline passenger who enters an airport checkpoint and then refuses to undergo the method of inspection designated by TSA will not be allowed to fly and also will not be permitted to simply leave the airport.

If you refuse to be scanned or groped, you could face a penalty of $11,000 and possible arrest.

Miami-based TSA spokesperson Sari Koshetz told the Sentinel that passengers who first submit and then refuse the process would be questioned by authorities "until it is determined that they don't pose a threat"

The Sentinel reported that the ACLU is urging Americans to petition the Department of Homeland Security to change the policy. In a statement, the group said,

"All of us have a right to travel without such crude invasions of our privacy. Tell DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano to put in place security measures that respect passengers' privacy rights. You shouldn't have to check your rights when you check your luggage."

But the TSA plans to continue the invasive practice.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airportsecurity; bhotyranny; bodyscanners; donutwatch; lossoffreedom; policestate; powertrip; respectmyauthority; tsa; tsapervs; tyranny
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So, we have a choice - be treated like cattle and let the gov't poke our privates and abuse/humiliate us, or pay a $11K fine and face arrest. Time to Opt Out!
1 posted on 11/21/2010 7:10:44 AM PST by FredJake
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To: FredJake

Why wouldn’t they just allow you to leave the airport??


2 posted on 11/21/2010 7:12:18 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: FredJake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSQTz1bccL4


3 posted on 11/21/2010 7:13:17 AM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: cotton1706

This appears to be more about intimidation and control than actually stopping terrorist attacks.


4 posted on 11/21/2010 7:13:28 AM PST by CajunConservative (0, we'll stop treating you like a dog, when you stop treating us like a hydrant.)
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To: FredJake

So basically TSA is a cheap date - get groped and save $11,000!


5 posted on 11/21/2010 7:14:08 AM PST by bigbob
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To: FredJake

It appears the TSA fiasco is not being linked to Obama.

According to Rasmussen Obama’s negatives are not getting worse.

“”The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 27% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -13”””


6 posted on 11/21/2010 7:16:50 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: FredJake

This is way out of hand and needs to be stopped.


7 posted on 11/21/2010 7:17:16 AM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: CajunConservative

Strip search every passenger and all crew members. That would make Liberals happy!


8 posted on 11/21/2010 7:17:47 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: FredJake
The Sentinel reported that the ACLU is urging Americans to petition the Department of Homeland Security to change the policy. In a statement, the group said, .... Just keep it up....keep it up. Maybe you won't get a 'petition' next time...... maybe "re-petition" of a different nature.
9 posted on 11/21/2010 7:18:13 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: FredJake

10 posted on 11/21/2010 7:18:26 AM PST by SubGeniusX (Rule #34...No Exceptions.)
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To: Dallas59

If it doesn’t stop by Black Friday, it never will. People will lose interest.


11 posted on 11/21/2010 7:18:56 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: FredJake

Muslims want to blow up stuff....so lets humiliate the potential non Muslims victims.


12 posted on 11/21/2010 7:19:25 AM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: Dallas59

and the muslims who caused the problem are exempted..... all by executive order from the muslim commander in chief, the grand jihadist, living in the big White House, Ibn Hussein Barrack.

Welcome to the new and great dissolution of American circus.


13 posted on 11/21/2010 7:20:43 AM PST by himno hero
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To: FredJake

All men should show up in kilts with no underpants.

All women should wear a dress or skirt, also sans underpants to the airport.

The ladies should rig a mouse trap close to their genitals.


14 posted on 11/21/2010 7:22:26 AM PST by Grunthor (Touch my junk and Ill knock you the f**k out)
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To: himno hero

15 posted on 11/21/2010 7:22:48 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: himno hero

16 posted on 11/21/2010 7:23:35 AM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: FredJake

No, we have another choice - not to fly. Hit them where it really hurts - ticket $ale$.


17 posted on 11/21/2010 7:23:50 AM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: CajunConservative

Yes, Barry has found a new method to humiliate the American public. The ridiculous groping plan was obviously unworkable in concept, let alone in execution. Any normal person would reject such a plan on its face, but Barry thinks it’s okay for the average American to be considered guilty until proven innocent.


18 posted on 11/21/2010 7:25:16 AM PST by purplelobster
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To: CajunConservative
This appears to be more about intimidation and control than actually stopping terrorist attacks.

Or more about Obama throwing his temper tantrum against Americans because they rejected him and his corrupt agenda at the ballot box.

On a side note; has anyone seen any film footage or written MSM articles regarding TSA encounters with Muslims refusing the airports security system that Americans are being subjected to by TSA infidels? I haven't seen anything on this subject of Muslims and the TSA except the odd quip about Janet saying that aspect is under review.

One other item. Isn't it odd that the very people we are supposedly being protected against are now asking for and will probably receive exemptions from the security screening process.

19 posted on 11/21/2010 7:26:04 AM PST by Ron H. (November 2 was only the opening salvo in a long war to retake America!)
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To: himno hero


Wanna bet they didn't get searched by Obama's TSA?
20 posted on 11/21/2010 7:26:30 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: FredJake
Reports are the TSA folks don't like this either. So humiliate them, and let them add to the pressure to end this idiocy.

Bombs in body cavities have already been used and this won't detect those. So scanning and groping were useless even before they were implemented -- it was all only a way for Chertoff (sp?) to abuse his connections to make more money.

America -- a great idea, didn't last.

21 posted on 11/21/2010 7:26:46 AM PST by Clint Williams ( America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: FredJake

This can’t be legal. It’s nuts! They’re going to allow Muslim women to check themselves????? If you’re a regular American, though..... you have no basic rights in your own country!

Some of us have to really save up the cash to buy a ticket. They want to hit those people with a fine they can never pay? Debtor prison is on the way!


22 posted on 11/21/2010 7:27:34 AM PST by Just Lori
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To: bgill
The airline industry will be just one more American business that obammy and his henchmen will destroy.

If I can't drive there, I won't go there is my new motto.

23 posted on 11/21/2010 7:27:47 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: himno hero

I’m a private citizen trying to get on a privately owned airplane. At what point did I surrender my 4th Amendment rights given to me by God?


24 posted on 11/21/2010 7:27:47 AM PST by Noamie
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To: bgill

Dont fly. Thats what obama has planned


25 posted on 11/21/2010 7:28:19 AM PST by TLEIBY308 (Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
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To: CajunConservative
This appears to be more about intimidation and control than actually stopping terrorist attacks.

It is only about intimidation and control (and ripping off the public for the useless scanner machines).

Obama's Fault.

America -- a great idea, didn't last.

26 posted on 11/21/2010 7:28:26 AM PST by Clint Williams ( America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: bigbob
So basically TSA is a cheap date - get groped and save $11,000!

New 'Ad' by Americas TSA Workers

27 posted on 11/21/2010 7:28:40 AM PST by Ron H. (November 2 was only the opening salvo in a long war to retake America!)
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To: SubGeniusX

Now that got a laugh. ;-)


28 posted on 11/21/2010 7:29:28 AM PST by MWS
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To: FredJake

ACLU wants it both ways. They usually file a lawsuit, find a friendly judge, and get their way. Not this time? Why?


29 posted on 11/21/2010 7:29:35 AM PST by Luke21
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To: bgill

“Not flying” hurts the airlines, not the TSA. Two different things.


30 posted on 11/21/2010 7:29:46 AM PST by Noamie
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To: Just Lori

31 posted on 11/21/2010 7:30:06 AM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: Dallas59

I liked this comment from a poster on another website:

The Israelis are developing an airport security device that eliminates the privacy concerns that come with full-body scanners at the airports.
 
It’s a booth you can step into that will not X-ray you, but will detonate any explosive device you may have on you. They see this as a win-win for everyone, with none of this crap about racial profiling. It also would eliminate the costs of a long and expensive trial.  Justice would be swift. Case closed!
 
You’re in the airport terminal and you hear a muffled explosion. Shortly thereafter an announcement comes over the PA system . . . “Attention standby passengers — we now have a seat available on flight number XXXX. Shalom!”
 
Hats off to the Israelis!!!!


32 posted on 11/21/2010 7:30:16 AM PST by A'elian' nation ( America is Exceptional - the only nation of people who escaped from theirs.)
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To: FredJake
Sounds like false arrest and/or false imprisonment in my books.

It's time for some serious push-back, I would think that a million or so lawsuits might be a start or maybe official complaints filed for sexual assault, especially on behalf of children.

But what may negate that sort of thing is that travelers knowingly, which might imply that they approvingly enter that system with its inherent abuse in order to travel.

33 posted on 11/21/2010 7:31:00 AM PST by brushcop (CW4 Matthew Lourey CW2 Joshua Scott/ Kiowa pilots KIA Iraq '05. Thank you for our son's life.)
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To: A'elian' nation

LOL!....watch the Muslims call it RACISM!


34 posted on 11/21/2010 7:31:24 AM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: cotton1706

TSA lines are earily similar to pre boarding trains to the death camps of the Holocaust era.


35 posted on 11/21/2010 7:32:10 AM PST by Global2010
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To: Luke21

“ACLU wants it both ways. They usually file a lawsuit, find a friendly judge, and get their way. Not this time? Why?”

They are all working in the Justice dept now...


36 posted on 11/21/2010 7:32:48 AM PST by Noamie
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To: cotton1706

Refusing to go through TSA is saying you have something to hide in their minds?


37 posted on 11/21/2010 7:33:46 AM PST by Global2010
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To: basil

“The airline industry will be just one more American business that obammy and his henchmen will destroy.”

Six months of Barry’s TSA groping the American public will result in dwindling profits for the airlines. At that point Barry will be able to stage another Federal Government takeover of another industry. The country is being dismantled by lefty hacks.


38 posted on 11/21/2010 7:34:10 AM PST by purplelobster
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To: FredJake
also will not be permitted to simply leave the airport.

Does this not scream of 'it's NOT about security/terrorism'? It's about control - being held hostage!

This can't wait until elected officials scream from the rooftops - which should have been the first day, we must do something.
39 posted on 11/21/2010 7:35:10 AM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: Clint Williams
Bombs in body cavities have already been used and this won't detect those. So scanning and groping were useless even before they were implemented -- it was all only a way for Chertoff (sp?) to abuse his connections to make more money.

Quiet please. If Obama finds that out he will start ordering his TSA infidels to start doing cavity searches. That will go over don't you think?!

40 posted on 11/21/2010 7:35:23 AM PST by Ron H. (November 2 was only the opening salvo in a long war to retake America!)
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To: basil
If I can't drive there, I won't go there is my new motto.

Ditto's!

41 posted on 11/21/2010 7:36:21 AM PST by Ron H. (November 2 was only the opening salvo in a long war to retake America!)
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To: basil
The airline industry will be just one more American
business that obammy and his henchmen will destroy.


42 posted on 11/21/2010 7:36:54 AM PST by Iron Munro (Save The USA. Stamp out Affirmative Action: Get the Obamas out of the White House.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

All polls over-sample democrats plus they give Obama a
ten point affirmative action bonus before they make the first call.
And then there is the “Dinkens Effect.”

The real poll took place Nov 2.


43 posted on 11/21/2010 7:36:54 AM PST by A'elian' nation ( America is Exceptional - the only nation of people who escaped from theirs.)
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To: Noamie
The airline industry has the money, the lawyers, and lobbyists, the media personnel to take on Hussein and his TSA.
44 posted on 11/21/2010 7:38:34 AM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: CajunConservative

That’s exactly what it’s about. Among others(including you and me), the lawyer for John Tyner said that the other night on FNC, stating that the Feds want to see if we’ll take it. And, let’s face it, the TSA is no more or less than the equivalent of one of the early ‘30’s Nazi organizations designed to control and destroy opposition.

We need our own “Tiannamen Square” moment in the good ol’ US of A.


45 posted on 11/21/2010 7:39:48 AM PST by izzatzo
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To: Rational Thought

Fly nude, fixes everything but air sickness.


46 posted on 11/21/2010 7:39:55 AM PST by mortal19440
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To: bigbob
heck at my age i visit the airport daily for my free feel.....sarc
47 posted on 11/21/2010 7:40:41 AM PST by FreeperDoll
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To: A'elian' nation
Hats off to the Israelis!!!!

GO BIBI! God, we ask you to keep blessing this man!
48 posted on 11/21/2010 7:40:47 AM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: FredJake

I think that’s part of the strategy: provoke us until good Americans are the “bad guy” when they snap and can’t take any more.


49 posted on 11/21/2010 7:41:55 AM PST by Tigercap
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To: Dallas59
This will get stopped just as soon as enough people stop flying causing a couple of airlines go broke...

...if, on the other hand, people get used to the scanners and do not protest by not flying, then the tyranny will be confirmed.

...it is entirely up to the flying public now as to how this mess is resolved....

50 posted on 11/21/2010 7:41:55 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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