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Mark Shields: I've Never Heard a Democratic Leader Accuse Bush of Lying US Into War
Newsbusters ^ | November 20, 2010 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 11/21/2010 7:29:49 AM PST by Scanian

Syndicated columnist and PBS regular Mark Shields on Friday actually said on national television that he has never heard a Democratic leader or presidential candidate accuse former President George W. Bush of lying America into the Iraq War.

This was said in response to Charles Krauthammer telling his fellow "Inside Washington" panelists that this all too common media assertion is the "essential untruth of this decade" (video follows with transcript and commentary):

GORDON PETERSON, HOST: What’s happened to honest objective reporting?

EVAN THOMAS, NEWSWEEK: Well, I’m not sure there ever was honest objective reporting, but there is an interesting thing going on. You would think with the internet and cable and all these new outlets, more information should mean more truth. The more information, the freer, the more open it is should mean more truth. But I worry that the opposite has happened. That, there, it’s now more possible for untruth to adhere, to take hold. In the example that people were talking about this week was this thing that got out from first the Indian press, then to Drudge, then to the right wing radio guys and then Congress that Obama was spending $200 million a day on his foreign trip which was just nonsense. It was finally knocked down. But, you start to wonder, you hear, people get their information by the internet, by e-mails from their Uncle Joe. You know, if that’s where they are getting their information, is it possible that real untruth will take hold in a way that we didn’t think was possible in our system?

NINA TOTENBERG, NPR: I think that this a, this is worrisome, and it’s left and right. It’s the people who think the Bush administration somehow was responsible for 9/11, or that a trip that clearly costs in total something like five or six million at the most, and it’s really 200 million. It’s not the same, I mean a day. They’re, they’re not the same in importance obviously, but, but, this really, the fact that there is no -- there doesn’t seem to be any factual agreement about anything allows us to sort of entertain the most odd and conspiratorial fantasies.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2004election; dean; gore; lies
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Not to split hairs with Shields because Yucca Mountain was the immediate subject but Harry Reid's characterization of Bush was very general: "President Bush is a liar. He betrayed Nevada and he betrayed the country."
1 posted on 11/21/2010 7:29:57 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Shields should go back to playing piano and singing — no wait!


2 posted on 11/21/2010 7:32:19 AM PST by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Scanian

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0909/Reid_called_Bush_liar_stood_by_comment.html


3 posted on 11/21/2010 7:32:22 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

EVAN THOMAS, of NEWSWEEK, NINA TOTENBERG, of NPR, and Mark Shields.....and people really wonder why nobody watches PBS anymore?


4 posted on 11/21/2010 7:32:39 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Red in Blue PA

Shields needs a catscan, STAT!


5 posted on 11/21/2010 7:33:23 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Economic reform? Great. But without education reform -- history will repeat itself.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Yes, the liberal DC echo chamber. I hear it here all too often.


6 posted on 11/21/2010 7:33:41 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Scanian
President George W. Bush ... lying America into the Iraq War

I'm a tea-party conservative and I think he did.

7 posted on 11/21/2010 7:36:23 AM PST by Jim 0216
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To: Scanian
Lyndon Johnson; Gulf of Tonkin

Shields musta been busy that day

8 posted on 11/21/2010 7:37:47 AM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

“Shields needs a catscan, STAT!”

Here is the result: Nothing here.


9 posted on 11/21/2010 7:38:31 AM PST by Mouton
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To: Scanian

Shields did not hear? Has he had his hearing tested lately?


10 posted on 11/21/2010 7:39:15 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Scanian

Well, Nevada re-elected this guy, so they can spend the next 6 years bemoaning the fact that they suffer embarrassment every time he opens his mouth.


11 posted on 11/21/2010 7:41:03 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Jim 0216

Well that means that Hillary Clinton, Kerry, McCain, and most of the leaders of the Western World were liars too.

They were relying on the best available intelligence, as it was at the time. And it was shortly after 9-11. A different time. A different set of insecurities.

Anyhow, I was thrilled to see that old bass turd yanked out of his hole, tried and hanged. And his two wacky sons done away with in a firefight. Fine with me. Any sponsor of terrrorism deserves death.


12 posted on 11/21/2010 7:41:22 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

If Bush lied to get us into Iraq, then these Democrat leaders did too...

“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
That is our bottom line.”
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear.
We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

“Iraq is a long way from USA but, what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

“We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S.Constitution and Laws, to take necessary actions, (including, if appropriate,
air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction
programs.”
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

“Hussein has .. chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

“There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs
continue a pace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.”
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.”
Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.”
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998.
We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities.
Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons...”
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

“I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force— if necessary— to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.”
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated
the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

“He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his
chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do” Rep.
Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological
weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.
He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.”
Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

“Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his
continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...”
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan.23.2003


13 posted on 11/21/2010 7:42:14 AM PST by Fresh Wind
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To: Brilliant

One of the few people I’ve seen who succeeds in insulting himself every time he opens his mouth.


14 posted on 11/21/2010 7:42:40 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Red in Blue PA

Evan Thomas to Chrissy Matthews: “Obama is sort of God.”


15 posted on 11/21/2010 7:43:56 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Jim 0216

Explain in detail, quoting lies he (Bush) uttered in leading up to the Congress voting to take out Hussein.

Please refresh your memory with the exact meaning of a lie and what it is that constitutes one before replying.


16 posted on 11/21/2010 7:44:26 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: Mouton; Arthur Wildfire! March
“Shields needs a catscan, STAT!”

Here is the result: Nothing here.

Very well, to the proctoscope then!

17 posted on 11/21/2010 7:49:32 AM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

““Shields needs a catscan, STAT!”
Here is the result: Nothing here.

Very well, to the proctoscope then!”

Here is the result of that one: A perfect A hole.


18 posted on 11/21/2010 7:51:00 AM PST by Mouton
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To: 101voodoo
What does seem clear: we should militarily go after those Bush was a mixed bag. He surprised the Islamoterroists and sent them back into their caves with his focused response of going after these murderers and invading Afghanistan. Then I think he went sideways in Iraq.

W's Iraq thing was convoluted from the start with confused motives and goals. I think W saw an opportunity to do what his dad failed to do - get Sadaam. He contrived the WMD thing. When that was exposed as a hoax, he invented "The Bush Doctrine" - invade countries and make them be democratic.

19 posted on 11/21/2010 7:53:59 AM PST by Jim 0216
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To: Scanian

Wow. I guess it does work. I’m talking about the notion that if you tell a lie enough times, people start to believe it. This is a pretty good example (actually several examples).


20 posted on 11/21/2010 7:57:48 AM PST by marstegreg
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