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TSA Confiscates Camera of Woman Who Filmed Latest Outrage
Verum Serum ^ | 11/21/10 | John

Posted on 11/21/2010 11:53:55 AM PST by Nachum

From the Examiner via Gateway Pundit, another TSA outrage from this weekend:

the defendant, Sam Wolanyk says he was asked to pass through the 3-D x-ray machine. When Wolanyk refused, Transportation Security Administration (TSA) personnel told him he would have to be patted down before he could pass through and board his airplane.

Wolanyk said he knew what was coming and took off his pants and shirt, leaving him in Calvin Klein bike undergarments.

“It was obvious that my underwear left nothing to the imagination,” he explained. “But that wasn’t enough for the TSA supervisor who was called to the scene and asked me to put my clothes on so I could be properly patted down.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: airports; camera; confiscates; fascism; hillaryclinton; johnpistole; obama; palin; tsa; tsapervs; woman

1 posted on 11/21/2010 11:54:00 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Of course, you realise,
2 posted on 11/21/2010 11:56:21 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass
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To: Nachum

TSA doesn’t have cuffs or arrest powers. Note in the article it was the Harbor Police.


3 posted on 11/21/2010 11:57:36 AM PST by jazminerose (o)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

THIS
4 posted on 11/21/2010 11:57:36 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass
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To: Nachum

I have a question for those of us that are ‘in the know’. Does the TSA have arrest powers or are they just faking it?


5 posted on 11/21/2010 11:58:26 AM PST by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: dljordan

“Does the TSA have arrest powers or are they just faking it?”

They are faking it. However they can generate charges for the local police to arrest you on.

So rest easy that the security guard reject can screw up your life without justification and doesn’t even have the minimum controls that the police have.


6 posted on 11/21/2010 12:10:22 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dljordan

Re: Filming TSA procedures.

Most airport security services do not allow filming of procedures. Years ago, transiting through Germany, an elderly man in our group with a back brace ended up semi-stripping to comply with security. Another in the group thought it was funny and snapped a few pics of Uncle H being frisked. The German security types jumped all over her. As I recall, they took her film.

The concern is legitimate: There is no reason the bad guys should be able to document and study security procedures at their leisure.

This is in no way to excuse the patently ridiculous, brain dead, offensive practices of the TSA.


7 posted on 11/21/2010 12:17:46 PM PST by RedElement
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To: Nachum

I guess this is an example of why the word “worthless” so often appears prefixed to the word “bureaucrat”.


8 posted on 11/21/2010 12:19:57 PM PST by The Duke
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To: RedElement
The concern is legitimate: There is no reason the bad guys should be able to document and study security procedures at their leisure.

And what happens when the government thugs are the bad guys? Should their actions not be documented for all to see?

The United States is still a free society, barely. We have these freedoms because we are able to keep our government's actions open to the public. Anti-recording laws, which violate the first amendment of the constitution, serve only to hide the actions of our rogue government agents.

We must continue to peel back the shroud that hides their actions from us.

9 posted on 11/21/2010 12:26:50 PM PST by meyer (Hey Obama - It's the end of the world as you know it.... ..... and I feel fine!)
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To: Nachum

There would be physical conflict if this out of control Government Agency illegally confiscated MY property!

It is ONLY a matter of time until this happens and I will predict that it will go down sometime this holiday season.

If the Government can take, touch, or handle ANYTHING you own without any checks or balances we are no longer a Democratic Republic.

I am sure the EPA (and other intrusive agencies) is watching this and just licking their chops to be next in line to apply this logic to GOVERN us.


10 posted on 11/21/2010 12:29:50 PM PST by R0CK3T
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To: driftdiver

There are airport police departments at each airport. They are usually behind the screeners. Actually, you might not believe this but they pick up lots of people who have outstanding warrants who come to get passengers at the airport terminals.

So, TSA comes to get you with airport police and then they book you with a municipal warrant.

Sad, but I’ve BTDT, but I beat TSA as the screener was trying for a raise/promotion and luckily I had a history of a security pass for all but runway and taxiways. BUT, it was a terrible 3 hours knowing if they didn’t void it I’d be searched everytime I boarded a plane anywhere.


11 posted on 11/21/2010 12:33:55 PM PST by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: Nachum
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12 posted on 11/21/2010 12:34:09 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Don't Read The News You're Uninformed, If You Do Read The News You're Misinformed")
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To: YouGoTexasGirl

FWIW, I think the airport police were the nicest I’d come across in Austin. Since I worked at the airport though, the City of Austin has taken them over so now the demeanor has changed with them since many “street” police are there now. Very Sad!


13 posted on 11/21/2010 12:36:49 PM PST by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: YouGoTexasGirl

What’s BTDT?

I just cancelled my flights and my hotel for my trip home to New York City for Christmas. I will have recently had surgery at that point, and I’m sure not going to have them zapping me or grabbing parts that will be very sensitive. Instead, I booked a room for the Christmas week at someplace I can drive to and which my kids in other states can also reach by car.

The airlines, if they wish to stay in business, should oppose this.


14 posted on 11/21/2010 12:47:02 PM PST by livius
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To: Nachum
This. DVR sunglasses.


15 posted on 11/21/2010 12:47:34 PM PST by Noumenon ("We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.")
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To: Nachum
"...asked me to put my clothes on so I could be properly patted down.”

This reminds me of the fight in the war room in Dr. Strangelove. "There's no fighting in the war room."

You can see, he's not hiding anything. But the TSA MUST follow procedures, so the guy has to put on his clothes to get groped. This is about safety. Really?

16 posted on 11/21/2010 12:56:19 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: RedElement

Document and study?

There is nothing to document and study!

The L3 Communications scanners or similar are nearly universal around the world.

Swabbing for residue is also common throughout the world.

Pat downs are not something that needs study.

If a million people need to strip because somewhere, someone *might* have some explosive device surgically implanted into their bodies then we have lost the war.


17 posted on 11/21/2010 1:00:34 PM PST by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: R0CK3T

Re: “physical conflict....”
Exactly! I just said to my husband that if these guys don’t watch it, we’re going to see one of ‘em lynched.
Which, of course is just what the powers that be want.


18 posted on 11/21/2010 1:02:05 PM PST by bog trotter
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To: livius
I just cancelled my flights and my hotel for my trip home to New York City for Christmas. I will have recently had surgery at that point, and I’m sure not going to have them zapping me or grabbing parts that will be very sensitive.

That was very wise. I have a friend that had a mastectomy at a specialized cancer center, and she was returning home. The TSA agents stopped her to give her the "patdown". She had a note from her doctor, explaining that she was recovering from surgery, and that she should be handled gently. She said not only did they ignore the note, they treated her roughly, made her feel like a criminal, and then pressed so hard on her incisions that she cried; she was certain they had opened them.

I was so outraged for her when she told this to a group of us. This 50-something woman surely looked threatening. (do I need a tag there?) Grrrr.

19 posted on 11/21/2010 1:02:59 PM PST by Shelayne (He who testifies to these things says, "Yes, I am coming quickly" Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! *Rev 22:20)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

The most disturbing thing about the comments on that site was all their willingness to go along with the loss of freedoms and suggesting that not going along makes you a bad citizen. Conditioning of the sheep is alive and well.


20 posted on 11/21/2010 1:06:03 PM PST by WVNan
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To: Nachum

Pardon me, but doesn’t the taking of this womans phone constitute yet another act of ‘Unreasonable Search And Seizure’?


21 posted on 11/21/2010 1:11:58 PM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: livius

“BTDT” is an acronym for “been there, done that” - IIRC. :o)


22 posted on 11/21/2010 1:15:20 PM PST by RonDog
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To: Nachum

“”there was another arrest of a woman who was allegedly illegally filming the x-ray, and TSA screening process with a video camera. The young woman’s camera was confiscated and she was given a citation and released from Harbor Police custody.””
What’s the difference between taking pictures of the process and taking video? She should have put the camera down her pants :-)


23 posted on 11/21/2010 1:23:52 PM PST by blkmontecarlo
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
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24 posted on 11/21/2010 1:24:54 PM PST by Jubal Harshaw
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To: Nachum

Welcome to the Fourth Reich!


25 posted on 11/21/2010 1:26:09 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: driftdiver

That’s only if you stick around for the abuse....


26 posted on 11/21/2010 1:27:37 PM PST by G Larry (When you're "RIGHT" you don't look for ways to compromise!)
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To: Shelayne

That would be my situation, and I simply don’t want to go through it.

Thanks for the information!


27 posted on 11/21/2010 1:32:07 PM PST by livius
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To: RonDog

Thanks!


28 posted on 11/21/2010 1:32:34 PM PST by livius
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To: RedElement

See these TSA activities...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7AWw7t5zj0


29 posted on 11/21/2010 1:53:40 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Nachum
There are programs that allow one to send videos taken on their smart phone directly to the Internet, in realtime (see http://qik.com/ as an example).

Maybe it's time for people to start using such software to make sure the videos get out to the world, regardless of what the TSA thugs do.

30 posted on 11/21/2010 1:54:21 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Nachum

31 posted on 11/21/2010 2:00:27 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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To: DGHoodini
Pardon me, but doesn’t the taking of this womans phone constitute yet another act of ‘Unreasonable Search And Seizure’?

The Fourth Amendment fell with the twin towers on September 11, 2001.

32 posted on 11/21/2010 2:06:59 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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To: DGHoodini

TSA can do anything they want.


33 posted on 11/21/2010 2:08:32 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Nachum

The real question that nobody (including the TSA) is answering, is whether all this making us safer. The answer is no, of course not. Essentially 65,000 people have gotten a job to make the flying public’s experience as unpleasant as possible. While little kids and grandmas are being assaulted by TSA pervs, some muslim male between the ages of 18 and 40 can easily ship something in cargo on the same play the now emotionally distressed kids and grandmas fly on.

I love it how 0bama uses the underwear bomber as evidence we all need to get groped and assaulted by TSA, because as usual Mr.0bama hasn’t a clue on the facts. Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab got on a plan in Nigeria, flew through Amsterdam and never got screened in the USA. However, he was on the no fly list, had his dad call our intelligence agencies on him, and happens to be a muslim male between the age of 18 and 44, all of which should have prevented him from getting on a plane. So if the TSA wants to increase the probability of stopping a terrorist attack, how about screening for people who are on no fly lists, have had their dads call on them to the CIA and/or FBI, and are muslim males between 18 and 40 years onld, and leave the rest of us to whom these criteria don’t apply alone!

What is the reason we’re told the terrorists hate us? Because we have freedom. Well, the terrorists have won. We have allowed the government by way of the TSA to reduce our freedoms, take away our rights. We allow for small children to be groped, for elderly to be abused, for citizens to be treated as suspects. The terrorists never have to do anything to us, because WE ARE DOING IT TO OURSELVES ALREADY!


34 posted on 11/22/2010 7:31:28 AM PST by EscapedDutch ("Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money" - Lady Margaret Thatcher)
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