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Senator Ron Wyden Has Hopefully Killed the Internet Censorship Bill
geekosystem.com ^ | Nov 21 2010 | Susana Polo

Posted on 11/21/2010 5:15:07 PM PST by NoLibZone

The Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act passed unanimously through the Senate Judiciary Committee this Thursday, but fortunately didn’t get much further. Oregonian Senator Ron Wyden exercised his power to place a hold on pending legislation to stop the bill from traveling to the senate floor, saying that

Deploying this statute to combat online copyright infringement seems almost like using a bunker-busting cluster bomb, when what you need is a precision-guided missile.

His hold will prevent the bill passing out of committee this year; proponents of the bill will have to wait until the next time Congress convenes, and then try to reintroduce the measure.

If passed, the bill would allow the US Attorney General to seek judicial permission to order the shut down of any infringing domain name, where “infringing” means allowing access to anything that they don’t have the rights to. But wait, it gets better! If the site is not located in the US, it would also allow the USAG to get permission to tell ISPs, financial service providers, and advertisers to stop providing service to that domain. And, it would create two lists: one of sites that the AG has ordered taken down, which ISPs, financial services, and advertisers would be required to boycott; and one of sites that the AG has alleged are infringing, the boycotting of which would earn ISPs, financial services, and advertisers immunity from prosecution under the bill.

Regardless of your personal stance on files sharing, if you are a user of the internet, you should be able to see that this bill set an alarming precedent for the way our government responds to civil disputes in the online realm. It also makes no effort to allow otherwise infringing sites to distribute data that does not infringe. Could the bill, for example, allow the AG to shut down YouTube because users upload copyrighted content? Not to mention the potential use of the AG’s new powers for political reasons.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: censorship; charlesgrassley; georgevoinovich; internet; jamesinhofe; lamaralexander; lindseygraham; orrinhatch; spartansixdelta; thomascoburn
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1 posted on 11/21/2010 5:15:11 PM PST by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

Cosponsors:

S. 3804:

Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act

Lamar Alexander [R-TN]
Evan Bayh [D-IN]
Benjamin Cardin [D-MD]
Thomas Coburn [R-OK]
Richard Durbin [D-IL]
Dianne Feinstein [D-CA]
Kirsten Gillibrand [D-NY]
Lindsey Graham [R-S
Charles Grassley [R-IA]
Orrin Hatch [R-UT]
James Inhofe [R-OK]
Amy Klobuchar [D-MN]
Herbert Kohl [D-WI]
Robert Menéndez [D-NJ]
Charles Schumer [D-NY]
Arlen Specter [D-PA]
George Voinovich [R-OH]
Sheldon Whitehouse [D-RI]


2 posted on 11/21/2010 5:19:52 PM PST by NoLibZone (Homosexuals oppose diversity.)
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To: NoLibZone

The republicans on this list need to hear from us!


3 posted on 11/21/2010 5:24:27 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: NoLibZone

Nuke the corrupt bastards to hell!!


4 posted on 11/21/2010 5:24:55 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: NoLibZone
The usual Republican old guard suspects.
5 posted on 11/21/2010 5:25:40 PM PST by whershey
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To: NoLibZone

The bill may be dead, but its spirit lives on through the FCC. They will do it behind our backs anyway.

The republicans behind this bill need to start looking for new jobs.


6 posted on 11/21/2010 5:27:51 PM PST by dforest
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To: Jim Robinson
You don't think Holder is politically impartial?????


7 posted on 11/21/2010 5:29:13 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Lt. Col. Ralph Peters: Obama is the dog who caught the fire truck!)
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To: NoLibZone

I thanked him for his hold.


8 posted on 11/21/2010 5:29:30 PM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: NoLibZone
Quite a surprise to see Coburn on that list. He doesn't have major media in his State, so I simply cannot posit a rationale.
9 posted on 11/21/2010 5:34:51 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Ironic that a Dem killed the bill (for now). But not surprising that the GOP members in the committee voted for it.


10 posted on 11/21/2010 5:42:34 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Lt. Col. Ralph Peters: Obama is the dog who caught the fire truck!)
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To: whershey

You lump Inhofe in there ?


11 posted on 11/21/2010 5:45:51 PM PST by onona (dbada)
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To: NoLibZone

Youtube is owned by Google, so no, a mainstream, corporate owned website will not be shut down.

But that isn’t really the point. The point is, the internet is not supposed to be controlled by anyone, let alone the gov’t acting in the service of the media companies.

And its dang sure not supposed to be controlled at the ISP level, by gov’t fiat! This is little different than the ‘Great Firewall of China’, and opens the door for that level of political control. IE, where places like Free Republic and pro lifers and even dissenters from the left, anything considered radical or controversial to the status quo gets shut down.


12 posted on 11/21/2010 5:49:38 PM PST by TeachableMoment
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To: NoLibZone

no one from MI, but surprise Herb Kohl D-WI. interesting he is up for relection in 2012. did you hear that Feingold will run against Kohl to gain a spot back as a sentor from Wisconsin in 2012? Defeat this bastard. Look at the republicans on the list. Hatch, Coburn, Inhofe, Graham (no surprise). keep these names in mind in your respective states dethrone Graham in his next run do not need a Log Cabin Republican(gay)


13 posted on 11/21/2010 5:49:56 PM PST by hondact200 ( Obama is Nuckin Futs!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Nuke ‘em from orbit! (It’s the only way to be sure)


14 posted on 11/21/2010 5:53:07 PM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: NoLibZone
Alexander, Coburn, Graham, Grassley, Hatch, Inhofe, Voinovich..............BURN UP THEIR TELEPHONE WIRES, BURY THEM IN E-MAILS!

(Thank HEAVENS Voinovich will be gone in January!)

15 posted on 11/21/2010 5:57:28 PM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

exactly!!!
Freeper Telephone assignment!!


16 posted on 11/21/2010 6:09:39 PM PST by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Red_Devil 232

The republicans listed are to be expected to be rino’s, but Inhofe surprised me, I didn’t know he was also one..


17 posted on 11/21/2010 6:18:42 PM PST by goat granny
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To: NoLibZone

This bill has “Bipartisan” support because it is supported by a unique combination of communists and business interests. I am opposed to any “legal” approach to Internet governance.

Leave it alone, as it has been since its birth! Let the last “FREE” bastion thrive as it has. Do not screw it up!


18 posted on 11/21/2010 6:19:54 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: Carry_Okie

Quite a surprise to see Coburn on that list. He doesn’t have major media in his State, so I simply cannot posit a rationale.

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Go along to get along. Their principle concern is living well. Nothing more than this, save reelection.


19 posted on 11/21/2010 6:29:19 PM PST by Psalm 144
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To: indianrightwinger

Agree with you, but the free internet is a greater threat to tyranny than the printing press. Expect increasing pressure, as even the dullest political hacks and toadies figure this out.


20 posted on 11/21/2010 6:31:57 PM PST by Psalm 144
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To: Psalm 144

I hope the new House will treat this issue seriously and correctly, and the fight the Senate.

More important issue is “Net Neutrality”, which is about giving Liberal (communist proxies) like Google more power.

I hope Congress de-funds FCC if they actually go through with their proposal next month.


21 posted on 11/21/2010 6:38:30 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: indianrightwinger

I could not agree more.

We shall see.


22 posted on 11/21/2010 6:43:33 PM PST by Psalm 144
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To: Salvation

For the Oregon ping list...


23 posted on 11/21/2010 6:43:50 PM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: onona; whershey

and Coburn?!


24 posted on 11/21/2010 6:44:34 PM PST by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)
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To: NoLibZone
This just shows you that guys like Coburn and Inhofe, who are usually pretty solid when it comes to objectionable legislation, let their guard down once in a while. I'm sure this was presented as being fairly innocuous legislation, and they probably didn't bother thinking about the consequences of it. It's a strande day when Wyden is the one that puts the brakes on it, but he has been on the right side of a couple of issues that have surprised me.
25 posted on 11/21/2010 6:44:51 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (Looking forward to kicking Chicago out of Washington.)
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To: NoLibZone

Frigging Lady Lindsey Grahamensty has been threatening for years to shut down my 56K dialup line. Looks like he’s finally trying to make good on his threat.

Ron Wyden, THANK YOU!


26 posted on 11/21/2010 7:27:15 PM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: NoLibZone

Thank you Mr. Wyden!


27 posted on 11/21/2010 7:30:32 PM PST by eleni121 (http://www.serfes.org/orthodox/memoryof.htm Father Daniil Sysoyev lives!)
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To: Major Matt Mason

This just shows you that guys like Coburn and Inhofe, who are usually pretty solid when it comes to objectionable legislation, let their guard down once in a while. I’m sure this was presented as being fairly innocuous legislation, and they probably didn’t bother thinking about the consequences of it. It’s a strande day when Wyden is the one that puts the brakes on it, but he has been on the right side of a couple of issues that have surprised me.
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Coburn and Inhofe are USUALLY on the right (or is that “Right”?) side of issues — but they are STILL operating under the old Washington, DC “business as usual” mentality. To them, it’s as if things are exactly the same as before Barack Obama was elected, as before the Tea Parties arose, before “We The People” woke up and said “ENOUGH! Back to the Constitution! We want our Republic back!”

Coburn, Inhofe, and many others among Republicans — even “Conservatives,” STILL don’t quite GET the NEW PARADIGM. It’s NOT like it WAS before guys and gals. NO MORE DEALS. NO MORE DEBTS. No more making it up as you go along. Restore the Republic. Follow the Constitution. Don’t presume on US — you are OUR employees. Got it?!

Oh — the internet? OURS. NOT YOURS. NO TAXES. NO MORE REGULATIONS. HANDS OFF.


28 posted on 11/21/2010 7:35:22 PM PST by patriot preacher
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To: eleni121
Yes, Ron Wyden deserves some credit on this. It is very important. I was surprised to see Coburn on the list.
29 posted on 11/21/2010 7:35:42 PM PST by marktwain
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To: NoLibZone

I really doubt that Wyden should get the credit for this.


30 posted on 11/21/2010 8:33:06 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NoLibZone; abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; coffeebreak; ...
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OREGON PING!
 
If you aren't on this ping list and are interested
in articles about Oregon, please FReepmail me.

31 posted on 11/21/2010 8:34:09 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NoLibZone

Remember these names...esp the ones with a “R” beside them.


32 posted on 11/21/2010 8:43:42 PM PST by BlessingsofLiberty (BOYCOTT NEVADA...!!!!)
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To: Salvation

O.O

Who is that and what did they do with Ron Wyden??

Every once in a while that guy really does surprise me. Not often, but it does happen...


33 posted on 11/21/2010 8:44:36 PM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: Jim Robinson

DUKE NUKEM!!


34 posted on 11/21/2010 8:48:12 PM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: NoLibZone

*sigh*

BOTH “our” senators from NY.

Couldn’t see that one coming.......


35 posted on 11/21/2010 8:51:36 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: goat granny

Yes, he is. He also tried to defend earmarks.


36 posted on 11/21/2010 8:53:54 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: Psalm 144; Carry_Okie

Some are no doubt voting for this so someone will do them a favor.

NAUSEATING.

It’s the “DC way”.


37 posted on 11/21/2010 8:59:18 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah; Psalm 144

I’m not throwing Coburn under the bus until I know more.


38 posted on 11/21/2010 9:02:18 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Let me know if you find out anything. This bill sounds purely horrible. Can’t imagine why he’d be for it.


39 posted on 11/21/2010 9:19:26 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Pining_4_TX

:O( though he was one of the good guys....


40 posted on 11/21/2010 9:40:14 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Carry_Okie

How about lobbyists? Is he in someone’s back pocket?


41 posted on 11/22/2010 12:20:15 AM PST by dixiechick2000 ("First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Gandhi)
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To: dixiechick2000
How about lobbyists? Is he in someone’s back pocket?

Frankly, I'm hoping it's one of two things: Either a bias toward protecting private property rights that in this case is simply mistaken, or a trade for a vote that was really important while simultaneously believing that this bill will never make it in its current form.

Either way, we won't know unless he tells us, and even then we may not know.

42 posted on 11/22/2010 6:59:10 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: NoLibZone

Inhofe being on the list surprises me.


43 posted on 11/22/2010 7:02:24 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: indylindy
The bill may be dead, but its spirit lives on through the FCC. They will do it behind our backs anyway.

Ah, you are very wise, Grasshopper.

I was wondering why a RAT like Wyden (he even looks like a rat) would do something like this.

This is going to be done stealthily.

44 posted on 11/22/2010 7:33:11 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: onona

imhfe voted for it, so he’s lumped in with others who voted for it


45 posted on 11/22/2010 8:54:45 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I agree.


46 posted on 11/22/2010 11:01:49 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Your next chance like this? About 2044. Vote popularity and don't waste time with the details.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Your right on that one!! Feinstein needs to pack her bags!


47 posted on 11/22/2010 11:03:51 AM PST by watchdogmom
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To: Danae
Who is that and what did they do with Ron Wyden??

Every once in a while that guy really does surprise me. Not often, but it does happen...

Wyden? The senator who supports abortion (100% NARAL rating). The senator who supports homosexual marriage. The senator who favors gun control.

I'm sorry but the wrong stance on these key issues makes Ron Wyden just a typical democrat scumbug in my book. Nothing he does can atone for how he violates Core Conservative Principles.

48 posted on 11/22/2010 11:06:07 AM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas...)
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To: NoLibZone

The “INO” got dropped from all the “R” labels on your list.


49 posted on 11/22/2010 11:58:26 AM PST by underspan
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To: Red_Devil 232
Amazing line up. 18 stinking pos's, with the beltway zombie-disease, every one. Exterminate every one, and the country would be better off.
50 posted on 11/22/2010 7:00:26 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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