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TSA chief: Body scan boycott would be mistake
Associated Press ^ | Nov 22, 2010 8:30 AM (ET) | JIM ABRAMS

Posted on 11/22/2010 5:54:31 AM PST by DJ MacWoW

WASHINGTON (AP) - With one of the year's busiest traveling days fast approaching, the Obama administration's top transportation security official on Monday urged passengers angry over safety procedures not to boycott airport body scans.

John Pistole said in nationally broadcast interviews he understands public concerns about privacy in the wake of the Transportation Security Administration's tough new airline boarding security checks.

But at the same time, he said a relatively small proportion of the 34 million people who have flown since the new procedures went into effect have had the body pat downs that have come under withering criticism in recent days.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


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KEYWORDS: bodyscan; optout; tsa; tsapervs
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So this joker claims that "a relatively small proportion" of fliers have been subjected to government intrusions of a personal kind and that makes it alright? I don't think so.
1 posted on 11/22/2010 5:54:36 AM PST by DJ MacWoW
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To: DJ MacWoW

Just boycott airports.


2 posted on 11/22/2010 5:55:47 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Maybe I should tie a Jingle Bell to my winkie.


3 posted on 11/22/2010 5:56:12 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: DJ MacWoW
TSAEmpty
4 posted on 11/22/2010 5:57:42 AM PST by FrankR (Don't let the bastards wear you down!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

John Pistole?

Did we vote for him?

What is his relationship(s) to the individuals and companies
that make these devices?

When will we be told what the ionizing radiation
exposure is to an individual from these machines?


5 posted on 11/22/2010 5:58:18 AM PST by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“...he said a relatively small proportion of the 34 million people ...”

So Pistole thinks it’s OK to to have the Camel’s nose under the edge of the tent, and the Camel’s butt inside the tent!?

I think he has that backwards.

Get the Camel the “H” outta the tent.


6 posted on 11/22/2010 5:59:33 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Hodar
Maybe I should tie a Jingle Bell to my winkie.

Oh Hon, you don't want to excite the perverts!

7 posted on 11/22/2010 5:59:37 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

8 posted on 11/22/2010 6:00:06 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: DJ MacWoW

He made the claim the other day that it was making us safer. He said with a smile, as he talked about the ink cartridges in the printer that were explosive. Never mind that had nothing to do with molesting passengers and virtual strip searches that would have never found the printer bomb.


9 posted on 11/22/2010 6:00:47 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

If everyone did this, the system would collapse. Think of every man in the line, having a little Jingle Bell tied to his winkie.

There are a lot of winkies in the airport, so let’s have the TSA examine each and every one - and let the chaos ensue. I consider this a form of civil disobedience.


10 posted on 11/22/2010 6:02:28 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: MsLady

errr...would not have found the bomb that is.


11 posted on 11/22/2010 6:02:35 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

In other news, Comrade Stalin advises all good comrades to submit to the KGB.


12 posted on 11/22/2010 6:03:06 AM PST by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: DJ MacWoW
They don't like it when their own Saul Alinsky tactics are used against them.

They don't like it one bit.

13 posted on 11/22/2010 6:03:27 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The people who hate Sarah Palin hate her because they know that her Presidency is inevitable.)
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To: Hodar
If everyone did this, the system would collapse.

A Cloward-Piven boomerang.

14 posted on 11/22/2010 6:04:37 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The people who hate Sarah Palin hate her because they know that her Presidency is inevitable.)
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To: MsLady

They will use any excuse for the intrusion. And I believe that this is to see how much the American public will put up with.


15 posted on 11/22/2010 6:05:06 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Stay home, hell why do you want to try and kill yourself traveling.


16 posted on 11/22/2010 6:05:41 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Hodar

I agree!!!! I’d do it in a heartbeat. What are they going to do? It’s completely perverse, sick, stupid, immoral, unAmerican and completely uncalled for.


17 posted on 11/22/2010 6:06:11 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: neutrino
Here's a Japanese perspective - one not entirely safe for work.

LINK

18 posted on 11/22/2010 6:06:50 AM PST by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: Hodar
I consider this a form of civil disobedience.

It certainly is but I'd bet they'd lash back somehow. Maybe with charges of "hindering a government agent in the performance of their duties" or some such nonsense.

19 posted on 11/22/2010 6:07:23 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Hey Chief!
Perhaps your POLICY is a mistake!?!?!?


20 posted on 11/22/2010 6:09:18 AM PST by G Larry (When you're "RIGHT" you don't look for ways to compromise!)
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To: org.whodat

I’d have to fly to go south to see my sister. Driving that far with mt bad back is painful. So I guess I don’t go visiting because they will not get the chance to abridge my 4th Amendment rights.


21 posted on 11/22/2010 6:10:41 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
John Pistole is a failed FBI field investigator now running a blue-shirt political police force.

Anybody on this forum vote for Pistole? This guy could be impeached.

22 posted on 11/22/2010 6:11:20 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: DJ MacWoW

"Don't worry about it, sir. This is for your own good."

23 posted on 11/22/2010 6:12:46 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Not going to work.

A few years back Penn Jillette was fondled by a TSA screener, and he complained. The result? They made fondling part of the policy, legal. See the mentality?

If we boycott based on an option we have they’ll just make it mandatory.


24 posted on 11/22/2010 6:15:23 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: DJ MacWoW
John Pistole is in charge of a security system that selects people for further examination based on their place in line.

That might be a suitable method for quality control on a production line, but neither he nor anyone else is attempting to manufacture passengers for airplanes.

The biggest problem with his method is that 90% or more of the terrorists it seeks to deter are making it through to get on board airplanes!

That situation is patently unacceptable!

25 posted on 11/22/2010 6:16:14 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: Hodar

Tell ya what folks ... there’s a lot of us with “bionic” parts ... we don’t need the “jingle bell”. An artificial knee rings the bell every time ... so it’s not about “opting out” .. many of us don’t have a choice. Since I will “ring the bell” anyway Wednesday, I’m opting out ... nothing like joining a protest line (that I would already be in anyway).


26 posted on 11/22/2010 6:18:00 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (You are just jealous because the voices aren't talking to YOU!)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
There are plenty of t-shirts you could wear for the process -


27 posted on 11/22/2010 6:21:27 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: muawiyah

28 posted on 11/22/2010 6:22:28 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

- they plan to arrest anyone who isn’t a member of the religion of peace and who resists.


29 posted on 11/22/2010 6:23:09 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I don’t plan to fly on National Opt-Out Day, but I promise I will opt out whenever I fly. The genital grope takes much longer than the nude scan, so they’ll have to change the policy if enough of us opt out. I will let my groper know I believe they are conducting an illegal search under the 4th Amendment. I don’t have to risk the $11,000 fine or my job (if I can’t travel) by refusing both the scan and grope, but I can avoid penalties AND disrupt the system by electing the grope and taking my sweet time in the process. I encourage others to join me.


30 posted on 11/22/2010 6:29:19 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Bring on 2012!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I think your right. It’s either that, or they are totally inept. Perhaps both?


31 posted on 11/22/2010 6:34:02 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: DJ MacWoW
The body scanners aren't for security, it is to discover evidence to be used in prosecution in or seizure of items on a list the TSA can't even bother to print and post at the airport. If you want to randomly find out what is on the list, go ahead and walk through the scanners and submit to a virtual strip search.

But don't delude yourself that this has anything to do with security of the flying public. They refuse to profile, they refuse to confront CAIR, and they refuses to back down from this invasive scanner.

We really need to undercut the authority the TSA is using, first and foremost, go to the county or city that runs the airport and get the laws changed to explicitly photograph the actions of screeners at airports. When they can't hide behind more theft and intimidation to cover up their thefts and intimidation, this can finally start to resolve.

And just remember, like the Orlando federal court house, these scanners are going to be deployed everywhere. Boycott flying? Sure, that's one idea, but do you deny yourself the ability to go into a court house? A federal building?

32 posted on 11/22/2010 6:37:17 AM PST by kingu (Favorite Sticker: Lost hope, and Obama took my change.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Well, if the TSA chief thinks it's a bad idea...

......then OPT OUT!!!!

If there was ever a sure thing, when a scammer or a criminal, or someone trying to steal your rights says, “It's not a good idea” then you know for certain that it is the best thing to do to accomplish your goal.

33 posted on 11/22/2010 6:40:43 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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To: CitizenUSA

I also plan to opt out. I don’t want any more radiation than necessary.

I will also continue to protest this idiotic “security” nonsense.


34 posted on 11/22/2010 6:43:06 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: kingu

Dude, you be a good little sheep.


35 posted on 11/22/2010 6:48:11 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

> “a relatively small proportion” of fliers have been subjected to government intrusions of a personal kind ...
Bullsquat! In the past week ever person from work who has travelled has been both scanned and groped.


36 posted on 11/22/2010 6:48:49 AM PST by BuffaloJack (The Recession is officially over. We are now into Obama's Depression.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I say “Bristol ‘em”! Then when the TSA molests them, call the police and charge them with ‘Sexual Molestation, and ‘Unreasonable Search and Seizure’. Napolitano, Pistole and his minions all should have their names put on the National Register of Sexual Offenders Database.


37 posted on 11/22/2010 6:48:51 AM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: Hodar
"Think of every man in the line, having a little Jingle Bell tied to his winkie."

We could call them, "liberty bells" ;-)

38 posted on 11/22/2010 6:51:11 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: G Larry
Hey Chief!
Perhaps your POLICY is a mistake!?!?!?

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39 posted on 11/22/2010 6:51:23 AM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Mr. Pistole:

You can head off the boycott easily. Either

1) Change your draconian grope-and-grab policy; or
2) Resign.

See? It’s not complicated.


40 posted on 11/22/2010 6:58:05 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’m not wearing underwear and only loose fitting tennis sweats with zippers and pockets for my flights. A couple of bowls of chili the night before and maybe some quevos rancheros for breakfast the day of my flight should make for a real nice pat down experience. I’ll just let them go at it and light them up with a gassy reply.
Maybe a shart may help grease the skids for the TSA.


41 posted on 11/22/2010 7:24:28 AM PST by Dick Vomer (Our President-A modest man, who has much to be modest about.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
So this joker claims that "a relatively small proportion" of fliers have been subjected to government intrusions of a personal kind and that makes it alright? I don't think so.

The real translation:!

This groping has NOTHING to do with real security!!

It has EVERYTHING to do with public intimidation and training of the American people of submission to Soetoro's coming Marxist's take-over of the United States of America!!!

Now here's the question if the other, about 50%, of the U.S.'s real patriotic section are willing to submit themselves, or is revolting brewing???

42 posted on 11/22/2010 7:28:47 AM PST by danamco (")
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’ve read that the plan is to (eventually) have these scanners in all airports and in sufficient quantities to allow for the scanning of all passengers-rather like everyone going into some buildings goes through metal detectors, or how you can’t leave a library without going through the machine that detects whether you have a book that wasn’t properly checked out.


43 posted on 11/22/2010 7:29:16 AM PST by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital! This has been a spelling PSA. PS Secede not succeed)
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To: Dick Vomer

Oh you are bad! And my new hero. :-D


44 posted on 11/22/2010 7:29:54 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: kaylar

Well that might have been their plan until the sheep objected. And word is that the machines are not safe for health reasons. The TSA has a fight on their hands.


45 posted on 11/22/2010 7:32:10 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: markomalley; DJ MacWoW

Somebody replied: “If it was NOT a government employee, that kind of groping would land you in prison”!!!


46 posted on 11/22/2010 7:32:23 AM PST by danamco (")
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To: DJ MacWoW

Over target ... bay doors open. I've "opt"ed not to travel this holiday. I hope those who "opt" to travel, also "opt" to be groped rather than photographed naked. Massive revolt is the best way to have TSA removed of their pseudo authority.


47 posted on 11/22/2010 7:35:04 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Smokin' Joe

New concept in America, You are guility until the government tells you you are innocnt.

Sound like some third world government concept.


48 posted on 11/22/2010 7:36:11 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: DJ MacWoW
"a relatively small proportion"

A relatively small proportion of the population is raped or murdered. I guess that means it should not be a law enforcement concern.

49 posted on 11/22/2010 7:41:46 AM PST by sjmjax
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To: Joe 6-pack; Hodar
"Think of every man in the line, having a little Jingle Bell tied to his winkie."

We could call them, "liberty bells"

My FRiends, I do believe you have something here! Reminds me of the "Simon Jester" civil disobedience acts in Robert Heinlein's The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress.

50 posted on 11/22/2010 7:42:14 AM PST by aragorn (We do indeed live in interesting times. NRA, GOA, SAF, CCRKBA. FUBO.)
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