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The Pro-Life Leader Who Is Also an Exorcist [Renowned exorcist - HARRY POTTER opens gates to evil]
Inside Catholic ^ | 11/22/10 | Deal W. Hudson

Posted on 11/22/2010 10:20:36 AM PST by null and void

Having just read Rev. Thomas J. Euteneuers's new book, Exorcism and the Church Militant, one of the first things I asked him was whether he was afraid of demons. I shivered more than once reading through its short chapters, arranged as basic questions about the devil, demons, possession, and the rite of exorcism.

"Not at all," Father answered with a smile. "God has given me the grace to remain unafraid."

When I expressed my surprise, he explained, "Demons are basically handcuffed, and they know it."

Father Euteneuer does not speak as a theorist. Since 2003 he's had extensive experience ministering to those possessed by demons. His introduction to the demonic world happened when a family asked him for help for one of their members, and he eventually asked for permission to perform the rite of exorcism. He has been doing them ever since.

Exorcism and the Church Militant is intended, in part, as a warning to parents who allow their children to be desensitized to "the dark world" by books and films like the Harry Potter series and the vampire books of Stephanie Meyer. Father Euteneuer told me possession is almost always a result of someone getting involved in some sort of occult practices, such as witchcraft, Wicca, tarot cards, and Ouiji boards. 



"Harry Potter and these Twilight vampires glamorize the power of evil," Father Eutenener explained, "and this has lead to many, many cases of possession among young people." It may begin with a child or teenager simply "playing around" with the occult, but that seemingly harmless act is "opening a window" to possession.

Father Euteneuer emphasized this point, "Demons do not discriminate between intentions -- no matter how innocent -- and children lose the clear distinction between good and evil."

What makes the occult so dangerous is the fact that it is based upon something real -- the preternatural world of fallen angels, headed by Lucifer himself. Below him are the "choirs" of devils and demons who are a reverse mirror, in their fallen state, of the hierarchy of angels.

Yet, as Father Euteneuer made clear, this entire dark spiritual world "cannot operate without permission from human beings." He pointed out that the widely-seen film, The Exorcism of Emily Rose, based upon the actual case of Anneliese Michel, makes it seem like a possession can occur against a person's will.

Demons play by the rules, as it were. They can only enter a person when invited, and they will leave when subjected through the rite of exorcism to the authority of the Church. "All demons understand is authority," according to Father Euteneuer. He told me of a time he was with someone who was possessed -- not intending to do an exorcism because permission had not yet been given -- and the demon spoke to him saying, "The Church is not here."

Father Euteneuer reminded me that as fallen angels, demons are smarter than any human being. "The darkest demon is smarter than I am," he said. An exorcist must remain aware of the demon's ability to know everything about the person they are possessing, including family members, and those who may enter the room to cast them out.

One demon attempted to negotiate with Father Euteneuer, offering to help him with his Latin if he would let him stay put. That story prompted me to ask if demons had a sense of humor. "No," Euteneuer replied. "The demon was only trying to resist being cast out. They know what an exorcism is, what is going to happen to them."

Possession usually involves more than one demon. Father Euteneuer explained that when "one demon gets in it will help to create more invitations to other demons." The more powerful ones have biblical names, and he often runs into demons with the same name, as if they had a kind of demonic family name.

The possession of an individual person is a perverse imitation of the Incarnation. "They know they've lost the war in heaven, now they've come to earth and are doing all they can to exert their power and be an obstacle to heaven." That's why demons experience some form of pain when they are exorcised -- Father Euteneuer said demons will often complain that "It burns." They have been deprived of the satisfaction of entering a body in imitation of the Word made flesh.

By the end of my interview with Father Euteneuer, I realized my initial question about being frightened of demons had betrayed my misunderstanding of the limits of demonic power. Exorcism and the Church Militant is a book that should provide guidance to many for years to come, especially for parents who need a reminder that the occult is not innocent entertainment.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: euteneuer; exorcism; exorcist; frthomaseuteneuer; harrypotter; potter
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To: applpie
oh and i have read the books and watched the movies. but i bet you haven’t read the bible which is the book that says not to have any involvement.

Well, now .... aren't you the presumptuous one.

You've read the books, and somehow missed out on how Harry Potter lives up to this little passage:

"This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. You are my friends if you do what I command you."

If you've read the Bible, I'm sure you'll recognize the quote.

121 posted on 11/22/2010 12:28:52 PM PST by r9etb
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To: goodwithagun
I personally would not want to read the book, but I would not criticize someone else for it. The moment we start burning books is the moment we go back to 1933

Individually criticizing someone for what they read is a far cry from Gov't sanctioned book burning.

122 posted on 11/22/2010 12:29:24 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: goodwithagun
PS--here's a fun idea. Concoct an elaborate test to see which house your student falls into. I've taken a few of those online. The line between Gryphindor and Slytherin is rather fine.

I've taken a few of them online myself. Every time I think I'm going to be a Hufflepuff, I end up a Gryphindor.

123 posted on 11/22/2010 12:31:51 PM PST by Mamzelle (donate to O'Donnell--even a dollar is plenty! She has paypal!)
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To: null and void
It isn't even a matter of "Satan" so much as it is a battle of ideaology. Other than the word of God, we have no sure foundation in this shifting world. It would be nice if our president was not such a dubious character, if Congress and the elected people who were supposed to be looking out for our interests, really were. The fact that they sneak into office under fraudulent circumstances, lying constantly about who they are and what their agendas are-- socialism, Communism--- they never stop trying to destroy God's people.

*For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places*

124 posted on 11/22/2010 12:32:45 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: goodwithagun; Borges
The point that Dumbledore is making is impressive.

And he's talking to an 11-year old boy.

(And it's Rowling's first book, and her writing got better as the series progressed.)

125 posted on 11/22/2010 12:33:01 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Retired Greyhound
Harry Potter is replete with Christian themes. Good vs. Evil, loyalty, sacrifice, Love...anyone who thinks otherwise has not read the books.

Absolutely! Also the powers wielded are inherently genetic, not derived from satanic/demonic sources; and follow strict 'natural laws' analogous to scientific laws.

Even the evil antagonists are internally evil, not possessed, using their neutral (as a gun is neutral) abilities for their own internal evil purposes.

One of the main lessons is that the capacity for good and evil is internal to each person, and it is the individual who chooses which to manifest. Another is that by chosing evil, one ultimately destroys themself from within. Also, good wins the war, even if evil manages to win a battle or three.

126 posted on 11/22/2010 12:36:09 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: goodwithagun; null and void

Hemingway used terse prose expressively. The ‘point’ being made is banal and obvious. I’m not talking about using large words but using expressive language. It ain’t in that quote.


127 posted on 11/22/2010 12:36:30 PM PST by Borges
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To: goodwithagun

Harry was constantly angry during most of Order of the Phoenix. He asked Sirius if he was turning evil. He cast an unforgiveable curse several times out of a desire for vengeance. He manages to overcome all this partly by realizing that Voldemort can use that anger to weaken his bonds with others.

I must say that the complete lack of trust the central characters have in most adults occasionally bothers me. For example, what was the point of lying about the troll in the bathroom incident? Minerva would have been proud of the boys for going to rescue Hermione, without Hermione being in trouble too. I also think they could have told her why they were up at the top of the astronomy tower. They were simply trying to keep Hagrid out of trouble.

Harry could have saved himself and others a lot of pain by confiding in some of his teachers more often. But really, there wouldn’t have been much of a story if they just followed the rules and sat in the common room all the time. :)


128 posted on 11/22/2010 12:39:20 PM PST by Politicalmom (America-The Land of the Sheep, the Home of the Caved.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
One of the main lessons is that the capacity for good and evil is internal to each person, and it is the individual who chooses which to manifest.

That's right -- Dumbledore even explicitly says, in order to make this very point to Harry, that it is our choices, not our abilities, that define us.

129 posted on 11/22/2010 12:40:34 PM PST by kevkrom (De-fund Obamacare in 2011, repeal in 2013!)
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To: ApplegateRanch
*One of the main lessons is that the capacity for good and evil is internal to each person, and it is the individual who chooses which to manifest. Another is that by chosing evil, one ultimately destroys themself from within. Also, good wins the war, even if evil manages to win a battle or three.*

That's just human philosophy, nothing biblical about it. In fact, Satanists will say the same thing.

130 posted on 11/22/2010 12:41:07 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Retired Greyhound

“I do reject those who condemn it wholesale as being “dangerous”.”

I don’t disagree with that. Adult Christians should probably read Das Kapital, to continue my example, to understand the secular enemy. My concern is my kids. I don’t think it’s even a close decision whether to let an eleven year old boy watch HP, if one is a Christian.

If one is secular, there’s no discernible reason, except arbitrary personal preferences, not to let one’s kids watch HP or “Texas Chainsaw Massacre” or “Debbie Does Dallas” because any hypothetical consequence of watching has no referent in any value system that is meaningful.


131 posted on 11/22/2010 12:47:09 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Mamzelle
Gryphindor

Gryffindor (/spelling police)

132 posted on 11/22/2010 12:47:41 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Siena Dreaming

Defending Pelosi would be impossible. Church of England is pretty watered-down anyway, so I won’t defend Rowling’s faith.

I don’t sense that she is at all hostile to Christianity, and I don’t pick up any commie overtones in her books.

But that’s just me.


133 posted on 11/22/2010 12:47:46 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: ModelBreaker
No one has ever read “Das Kapital” from start to finish. Even Marx’s biographers. It's unreadably turgid and really doesn't deal with religion at all from what I know. It's socio-economic-historical analysis.
134 posted on 11/22/2010 12:51:10 PM PST by Borges
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To: Politicalmom
He was angry in OP because he was being kept out of the loop by Dumbledore and other adults. Of course he doesn't confide in adults: He's a tween or a teen in all the novels! The first eleven years of his life he was abused by adults! Plus, he is scared that he is dealing with things that others have never dealt with. How does he go about asking about his painful scar without people thinking he's a nutter? The first example you give about Hermione and the troll- yes they could have told the truth. Hermione told a lie to let the boys know that she appreciates what they did. Sure, she could tell the truth and thank them later, bu this lie cements their friendship. For the second example, dragons are illegal so they would have gotten into a lot of trouble there. Do you expect McGonnagal to not tell on Hagrid? Again, not saying the lying was the right thing to do, but Rowling does a pretty good job of writing what a typical tween or teen would do.
135 posted on 11/22/2010 12:56:50 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Who’s doing these checks anyway???

I am. When you submit ideas that seem contrary to known facts, and cannot explain the inconsistency, you failed.

136 posted on 11/22/2010 12:57:08 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Siena Dreaming

It all starts with one individual.


137 posted on 11/22/2010 12:58:41 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Politicalmom
I must say that the complete lack of trust the central characters have in most adults occasionally bothers me.

Well ... that's pretty traditional fare in books where kids are the heroes. And it's pretty typical of kids in any case -- especially when it comes to planning something less than safe: adults tend to try to prevent such behavior.

But I don't know that I'd call it "complete" lack of trust.

Harry could have saved himself and others a lot of pain by confiding in some of his teachers more often.

That's actually one of the points of the series -- how many times did Harry make assumptions about the other characters, and how many times did it end up coming back to bite him?

But as you say ... there wouldn't be much of a story left if they'd been all honest and open.

138 posted on 11/22/2010 1:05:51 PM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb; Politicalmom

“the complete lack of trust the central characters have in most adults occasionally bothers me.”

Goes back to Tom Sawyer probably.


139 posted on 11/22/2010 1:11:31 PM PST by Borges
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To: goodwithagun
Nonsense. Individuals rebuke other individuals all the time. Often individuals need to be rebuked by their peers.

What it all starts with is Gov't intrusion, not private interaction.

140 posted on 11/22/2010 1:13:45 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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