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The Pro-Life Leader Who Is Also an Exorcist [Renowned exorcist - HARRY POTTER opens gates to evil]
Inside Catholic ^ | 11/22/10 | Deal W. Hudson

Posted on 11/22/2010 10:20:36 AM PST by null and void

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To: Politicalmom

I just think we need better brooms.


141 posted on 11/22/2010 1:28:30 PM PST by sand lake bar
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To: ModelBreaker
“The really cool kids do occult stuff, they win and everything turns out OK. People who don’t do occult (Muggles) are incredibly square and to be patronized and tolerated.”

You very clearly have NO clue about these books.

142 posted on 11/22/2010 1:37:42 PM PST by Dianna
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To: Siena Dreaming

Since when did you get the right to rebuke me? You’re not my mother, who loves HP too by the way. We could call it free speech. Along with free speech comes freedom of the press. Rowling can write what she wants, just like you can try to be my mom.

And it only takes one individual to start. One individual says that the 10 Commandmants are offensive. Then the government steps in a bans the Commandments are removed from public sight. One individual says that there should be a gay pride parade, and others stand up with him and agree. But the 10 Commandments would never be removed from public sight, and there would never be gay pride parades.


143 posted on 11/22/2010 1:41:37 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: tacticalogic

“When you submit ideas that seem contrary to known facts, and cannot explain the inconsistency, you failed.”

I’m sorry, you’ve lost me.

If media had no power to influence then no one would spend money on advertising.


144 posted on 11/22/2010 1:58:03 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: ModelBreaker
I don’t think it’s even a close decision whether to let an eleven year old boy watch HP, if one is a Christian.

I disagree. The HP series has led to hours upon hours of deep discussion with both of my sons about loyalty, the corrupting influence of power, that the choices we make show us who we are, etc.

One of the things I enjoyed about the books is that there is a very clear distinction between the good and the evil (and BTW, it has nothing to do with wizard vs muggle). Evil is explained; we know what it does, how it acts, and what motivates it. The one character we were uncertain about led to spirited discussions about how we could discern if he was good or bad. What does he DO? Who trusts him and is THAT person seeing clearly?

The magic in Harry Potter is not real. It is just as fake as the fairy godmother in Cinderella. Even at 3 years old my kids weren't stupid enough to think that a pumpkin could really turn into a carriage. It's pretend.

145 posted on 11/22/2010 2:13:17 PM PST by Dianna
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To: Dianna
There are many of us here who have tried to explain to these people that there is a difference between reality and fantasy. Thank you for echoing this. I posted earlier that I'm teaching a Harry Potter Lit elective next semester. I can't wait for the discussions like you posted about. I'm especially interested in the Snape discussions. They should be quite interesting, especially since he keeps his secret until his death. He never seeks gratitude for the good he did, because he knew about the evil that preceded it.
146 posted on 11/22/2010 2:35:28 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
If media had no power to influence then no one would spend money on advertising.

If media has the power to influence, why doesn't reading about murder in the newpaper make you want to commit murder, if reading about it in a novel does?

You can't have it both ways, claiming the power of the media to influence you is absolute when you're reading a work of fiction, and indiscernible if you're reading a factual account, without explaining why they are different.

147 posted on 11/22/2010 2:56:51 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: 1000 silverlings

imho,

no door should be opened to the enemy.

Particlarly one involving

spells,
witchcraft of any kind.
incantations,
glorifying human ‘magical’ efforts etc.


148 posted on 11/22/2010 3:11:13 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: null and void; All
I'm going to take a bath, and I will be reading Chamber of Secrets. If the gates of evil open up, I will let you all know immediately!
149 posted on 11/22/2010 3:16:40 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

And for all the Baptists, I will also be drinking a glass of wine while reading a book that will open up a hell mouth!


150 posted on 11/22/2010 3:18:43 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun
Since when did you get the right to rebuke me?

You can take it personally if you want. But all I'm doing is saying you're in error when you claim that opining on someone choice of literature is like Nazi Germany.

By your logic, an individual must not opine against a gay pride parade for that may open up Gov't intrusion against the gays.

We could call it free speech. Along with free speech comes freedom of the press

Exactly. Everyone is free to state their opinion. We state those opinions everyday on FR.

By your logic we should say nothing when the press is in error. You do not make sense, my friend. The written word is not sacrosanct. In fact, when one gets published one opens oneself up to all kinds of opinions...positive AND negative. As it should be in a free society.

151 posted on 11/22/2010 4:00:47 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

If that’s what helps you sleep at night. . .


152 posted on 11/22/2010 4:07:08 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

Yes, knowing we still have freedom to express our opinions as individuals does, in fact, help me sleep at night.


153 posted on 11/22/2010 4:19:26 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

As long as it doesn’t contradict what you like to think.


154 posted on 11/22/2010 4:28:47 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun
You're not clear.

As long as what doesn't contradict what I like to think?

And what do I like to think?

155 posted on 11/22/2010 4:32:32 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

Your animosity toward fantasy literature: You don’t like HP and you have no problem with “rebuking” me for it. Going to give my son a bath now. Later, when I read HP during my bath, I will post if the gates of evil opened up in my bathroom. Have a good evening!


156 posted on 11/22/2010 4:46:42 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

I’m nearly done with the Half Blood Prince audiobook. I *shudder* CLEAN while I listen to them. I love Jim Dale’s renditions.


157 posted on 11/22/2010 5:08:08 PM PST by Politicalmom (America-The Land of the Sheep, the Home of the Caved.)
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To: goodwithagun
I merely stated my opinion which is contrary to yours.

I wouldn't classify a difference of opinion as a "rebuke" but obviously you can if you like.

158 posted on 11/22/2010 5:32:31 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

You were the one that said I needed a rebuke. Just quoting the source. Good night, pouring a second glass of wine and watching the game with my hubby.


159 posted on 11/22/2010 5:59:22 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Politicalmom

My dear, you totally need a house elf.


160 posted on 11/22/2010 6:00:56 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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