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The GOP Presidential Primary Isn’t Big Enough for Palin and a Bunch of Others
National Review Online ^ | 11/22/10 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 11/22/2010 11:38:15 AM PST by FTJM

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To: OrangeHoof
I'd personally be more comfortable with a candidate who had spent more time in office and didn't drop out of her last elected job

Like osamaobama? He was gov of IL for 8 years... uh nope, he was mayor of Chicago... uh nope...he was a US Senator for 2 years before he announced his Presidential candidacy.

Since when did all this experience become a requirement.

41 posted on 11/22/2010 12:22:26 PM PST by USS Alaska
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To: Diogenesis

OK... we don’t like Romney... but the NR’s endorsement was when the field was narrowed to Romney, McCain and Huckabee. What should they do? Endorse a non-candidate?


42 posted on 11/22/2010 12:23:23 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: FTJM
Regarding her quiting the Gov job in Alaska early, even many on my side don't get it.
She had Democrats filing lawsuits everywhere that she had to defend at her family's personal cost.
She was a third of a million in the hole when she quit and would have been 3 million or more in the hole if she stayed.

She could not personally survive the financial hardship of staying on the job with all the BS lawsuits (all of which produced nothing at all).

Forced to quit, she markets herself and makes already many millions.

She didn't quit as a quitter, she was forced out by bleeding her personal wealth and causing her go take on massive debt for the family because Democrats wanted to play games

Speaks poorly for what is ahead in politics in the future unless they make it loser pays on costs of these lawsuits.

43 posted on 11/22/2010 12:26:15 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: FTJM

Crusie ship passengers who are “...mostly older, mostly well-off, passionate about politics.” Not my idea of a political segment you should set your clock by.


44 posted on 11/22/2010 12:26:18 PM PST by Elwood P. Doud (America, you voted for a negro socialist with an Islamic name - so why are you surprised?)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
I think that is part of the reason for the rock climbing, halibut fishing, snow skiing, etc, to portray her as being physically as well as emotionally and mentally strong...

I get that... but these are conservative traits with which conservatives tend to identify. She has to reach beyond the base, and Indies on the whole won't care how well she rock climbs, fishes or skis. Her voice is going to have to clearer and louder than the state-run media when addressing the issue.

45 posted on 11/22/2010 12:28:50 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: US Navy Vet

God was working when Obama was elected, too.


46 posted on 11/22/2010 12:29:18 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: ScottinVA
Well, the media (not including Fox) will not support any GOP candidate.

That said, I think Sarah is particularly vulnerable because she is so genuine and open. On top of that, I think she is going to have trouble attracting independents without which she cannot win.

In fact, I know conservative women who rail against Sarah because she (in their opinion) "flies by the seat of her pants" and does not speak in a deliberate manner. In a meeting a few weeks back when the subject turned to Sarah there was a female chorus of complaints chanting "the mouth, the mouth...the mouth on that woman."

IMO if Sarah is serious, she needs to get a coach to help her polish her speaking style (to soften it and add a touch of deliberateness). As you may recall, Maggie Thatcher worked with a National Theatre voice coach who lowered her pitch by 46 Hertz to a point where it fell half-way between the range of male and female.

I'm not saying Sarah should do the same thing, but coaching helps!

47 posted on 11/22/2010 12:30:22 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: FTJM

Well its nice to see the RINO’s move onto the next battleplan. It means the “Sarah cost us the Senate” and Gov Palin is a “joke” plans are NOt working very well for the RINOS.

so the next line of attack...is to go paint her as unfit to serve. this is different form the “joke” less ridicule more “concerned questioning”

seems like SPAK is working wonders......RINOs heads exploding.


48 posted on 11/22/2010 12:31:05 PM PST by unseen1
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To: ScottinVA
If Sarah does run in 2012, she will have to address that issue... and it'll be a tough sell. If Sarah does run in 2012, she will have to address that issue... and it'll be a tough sell.

She is lucky in that she has the truth on her side. Obama paid operatives, some using cartoon character names, were filing dozens of bogus ethics claims that she was forced to defend. It was bankrupting her family and keeping her from doing her job as Governor.

The narrative that she "quit' makes it sound like she was just lazy and didn't care...that is obviously NOT true. So the Alinsky tactics continue...it is just sad to se people on our side falling for it.

During the campaign I'm sure the issue will come up, and she will have an opportunity to address it. Once people see how vile and deceitful her political enemies were, her popularity will only grow. Tough sell?

Hardly...

49 posted on 11/22/2010 12:31:05 PM PST by t-dude
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To: Little Ray
Somebody needs to make a deal.

We need ONE conservative candidate to counter the RINOs.

The problem is that there is no venue where that deal-making can take place and little opportunity for the various conservative candidates to develop and demonstrate the intangible "right stuff" that makes a candidate attractive on the campaign trail. Someone upthread suggested that Sarah might annoint a conservative standard-bearer but how can she know in advance how well her favorite will be received by the rest of us?

50 posted on 11/22/2010 12:32:07 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: ScottinVA

to clearer = to be clearer


51 posted on 11/22/2010 12:35:35 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: geologist
Then both will get experience to broaden their knowledge, by the benefit of being in offices

And they learn FAST too. Palin has proven her toughness in executive positions, no shrinking violet to say the least! Okay, here comes the Romneybot crowd...3, 2...

52 posted on 11/22/2010 12:35:44 PM PST by brushcop (CW4 Matthew Lourey CW2 Joshua Scott/ Kiowa pilots KIA Iraq '05. Thank you for our son's life.)
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To: t-dude
the fact that they are deploying their biggest weapon against Gov Palin this early should tell people how bad Gov Palin is destroying the establishment. they wanted to wait and use this attack line in the primary. they didn't want to give her time to form a response or get her talking points out. this was what Lisa did a week before the election in AK to Miller. He didn't have enough time to respond and refute the attacks.

By the establishment bringing out the “resigned” meme this early brings a simle to by face.

53 posted on 11/22/2010 12:35:47 PM PST by unseen1
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To: FTJM
I was struck by how many Palin fans agreed with me that resigning the governorship, while understandable, is a serious misstep for any aspiring president. If you want to govern, it is best to demonstrate that you can govern.

That's actually a decent point. I realize she resigned because of the mountain of frivolous lawsuits and ethics charges that were filed against her but does anybody believe things will be any different, if not worse, when.....oops, heh-heh, I mean IF she's elected President?

Water under the bridge I know but it's a decent point. Still, I hope she runs.

54 posted on 11/22/2010 12:35:54 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Elwood P. Doud

FTR, Palin’s rise to national prominence began with a Weekly Standard sponsored cruise in Alaska.


55 posted on 11/22/2010 12:36:09 PM PST by FTJM
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To: ScottinVA
OK... we don’t like Romney... but the NR’s endorsement was when the field was narrowed to Romney, McCain and Huckabee. What should they do? Endorse a non-candidate?

You're right, of course. What's disturbing is that things have gotten so crazy here on FR lately that people taking essentially this position in advance have been zotted for doing so.

56 posted on 11/22/2010 12:36:40 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: OrangeHoof
Will all this celebrity actually translate at the polls? I'm beginning to think she will be more useful to conservatism as a William F. Buckley, steering the debate rather than running for office. I'd personally be more comfortable with a candidate who had spent more time in office and didn't drop out of her last elected job.

Yes, it will. People are getting a chance to meet a different Sarah Palin than the distorted image that has been created by the media. I know people who have changed their view of Sarah because of these other media avenues.

And FYI, what Sarah Palin did in resigning her governorship was an incredibly selfless act. A sign of a true servant of the people, unlike most politicians who are power hungry a-holes. In time, I am confident you will come around.

57 posted on 11/22/2010 12:40:03 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: t-dude
Once people see how vile and deceitful her political enemies were, her popularity will only grow.

That's certainly my hope as well, however, currently her approval rating is, at best, in the 40s. It's going to take a lot of re-educating the electorate to turn that sentiment. You seem to have a lot of faith in the goodness of American voters. I'm more guarded. We shall see.

58 posted on 11/22/2010 12:40:58 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: FTJM
It’s odd to see a Republican begin to master the domination of pop culture that Obama practiced in 2007 and 2008, and this is certainly a way to keep Palin enthusiasts at a fever pitch.

Jim, Jim, Jim. Will you never get it? It's not seeing her on TV that keeps us Palin enthusiasts at a fever pitch.

It's watching the meltdown exhibited by The Professional Left and The Corrupt Bass Turds in Big Media whenever she's on TV that keeps us fired up.

We just love watching the screws on the Leftist hinge slowly backing out little by little.

59 posted on 11/22/2010 12:41:14 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: 9YearLurker

From the Romney Writer...

“I was struck by how many Palin fans agreed with me that resigning the governorship, while understandable, is a serious misstep for any aspiring president.”

I know many Palin supporters and almost none agree with that. You’d have to be politically naive to believe that...or a PDS’r.

I’m certain he made that up.


60 posted on 11/22/2010 12:41:32 PM PST by rbmillerjr (We knew the Romney RINO hordes were coming....It's on.)
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