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In War With Iran, B-1s Would Be Vital
Politics Daily ^ | 11/22/2010 | David Wood

Posted on 11/22/2010 8:26:53 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Edited on 11/22/2010 8:46:59 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

A U.S. attack on Iran's nuclear weapons facilities might look just like this: a B-1bomber lancing along just above the desert floor at 900 feet per second, ducking behind mountains and beneath ridgelines to hide from enemy radar, carrying a bellyful of 2,000-pound satellite-guided bombs.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; airstrikes; b1; bone; iran; military; usaf

1 posted on 11/22/2010 8:26:56 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Saw a B-1 do its thing at an airshow about 10 years ago. Amazing sight. That thing must’ve scared the devil out of the Soviets.


2 posted on 11/22/2010 8:31:04 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

You can thank President Ronald Reagan for bringing the program back after it was canceled by jimmy.


3 posted on 11/22/2010 8:35:45 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Obastard isn’t going to do anything. He thinks that it isn’t fair that the Iranian nutcases don’t have nuclear weapons.


4 posted on 11/22/2010 8:35:45 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
enough to build one.... 8^)
5 posted on 11/22/2010 8:36:31 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
When the YF-12 STILL holds the speed records, after all this time, and we're reduced to an aircraft older than the pilots, that's a clue. There's your hint. You aren't advancing.

And if you aren't advancing, you are falling behind.

God have mercy.

/johnny

6 posted on 11/22/2010 8:37:38 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Not to be a spoil sport, but aren’t getty images not allowed?


7 posted on 11/22/2010 8:39:47 PM PST by Celtic Cross (I AM the Impeccable Hat. (AKA The Pope's Hat))
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Just think how many jobs Obama could have saved or created if he had used the stimulous wisely and built more B-1’s or B-2’s or F-22’s... The one area we should not be thrifty on (national defense) is where Obama will be thrifty..


8 posted on 11/22/2010 8:44:24 PM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Mr. Mojo
Saw a B-1 do its thing at an airshow about 10 years ago. Amazing sight. That thing must’ve scared the devil out of the Soviets.
Scared? Perhaps. They built 2 bombers on similar lines. The maritime strike Tupolev Tu-22M Backfire and the Tupolev Tu-160 Blackjack. The Blackjack, or as some joke the Lancerski, is an indigenous design and not an enlarged Soviet knock off of the B-1A. If we believe the Soviets.
9 posted on 11/22/2010 8:52:47 PM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: All
One.

Beautiful.

Bird.


10 posted on 11/22/2010 8:53:28 PM PST by rlmorel (TSA's new motto: "You don't get on, Until we get off.")
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To: JRandomFreeper
When the YF-12 STILL holds the speed records

...and I'm not quite sure they ever got to push it to it's maximum capability. At least not for an extended time.

11 posted on 11/22/2010 8:55:35 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The B-1 is a competant aircraft but throughout its lifetime has been a waste of resources. Variable geometry wings are expensive to maintain and impossible to justify for their cost. The existing B-1 aircraft have served well in our current conflicts but there’s nothing in the B-1’s combat history that couldn’t be accomplished just as effectively but at far less cost by other aircraft in the US’s current inventory. The B-1’s only strategic accomplishment has been encouraging the Russians to waste their own money on keeping their their Blackjacks serviceable.


12 posted on 11/22/2010 8:56:11 PM PST by jz638
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Having worked on the Bone program, that bird holds a special place in my heart.


13 posted on 11/22/2010 8:58:50 PM PST by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: rmlew

That’s because the B-1, and the Blackjack, are based on designs the Germans did a long time ago.

Every single design of aircraft, especially military, that we have today, that the Russians have, that everyone has, was based on the designs from the Germans between WWI and WWII.

When we occupied Germany, so the history books say, the scientists there were split up between the conquerors.

It’s where we got Werner Van Braun.


14 posted on 11/22/2010 9:02:05 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: 50cal Smokepole
whoaah. what a pic!
15 posted on 11/22/2010 9:04:39 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: JRandomFreeper
"And if you aren't advancing, you are falling behind."

You are GROSSLY underestimating the capabilities of the Lancer.

It has twice the range, twice the payload of a B-52 (which is still effective) and can get to the target at 200ft above ground and Mach 0.9.

At elevation, to get to target range, Mach 1.3.

It can carry 96 1,000lb precision guided bombs.

It is STILL the most capable Strike aircraft in the world...nothing else even comes close.

16 posted on 11/22/2010 9:12:10 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: paul51
Oil painting entitled "Power" by Dru Blair.
17 posted on 11/22/2010 9:12:44 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Mariner
Oh, I understood the B model was subsonic only.

/johnny

18 posted on 11/22/2010 9:20:10 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: rmlew

Nice “tagline’.

I always laugh when I read about the unfavorable rating of congress. Most people vote for their own incumbent over and over but want everyone elses sent packing. It’s not just the politicians who are hypocrites.

Washingtonians are unhappy about the direction of the country. Patty Murray is well known to be among the most ignorant of persons in the Senate who is a rubber stamp of administration policy. Yet she is reelected to her third term.

We’re doin’ the same thing over and over ...


19 posted on 11/22/2010 9:28:15 PM PST by DWar ("The ultimate destination of Political Correctness is totalitarianism.")
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To: JRandomFreeper
It is subsonic below 10,000ft.

The new B1R upgrade will make it 20% less range and Mach 2.2.

20 posted on 11/22/2010 9:29:18 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Mariner

Must be a member of the B1 “mafia”


21 posted on 11/22/2010 9:43:55 PM PST by gman992
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Why would the B1 need satellite guided munitions if it's "lancing along just above the desert floor at 900 feet per second, ducking behind mountains and beneath ridgelines to hide from enemy radar"??

At what point would it reach the target and then climb to sufficient altitude for such munitions to be effective... without being shot down??

22 posted on 11/22/2010 10:15:19 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo

It doesn’t need to go anywhere near the target since satellite guided munitions are stand-off weapons. The need for nap-of-the-earth flying is obvious since Iran is a very large country with nuclear and missile installations across the breadth of the country.


23 posted on 11/23/2010 3:26:45 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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