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Palin needs a history lesson (Richard Cohen flips out)
Washington Post ^ | 11/23/10 | RICHARD COHEN

Posted on 11/23/2010 6:58:09 AM PST by Libloather

Palin needs a history lesson
RICHARD COHEN
Tuesday, November 23, 2010

When I was 11, my father thought it was time to show my sister and me the nation's capital.

**SNIP**

It's appalling that Palin and too many others fail to understand that fact - indeed so many facts of American history. They don't offer the slightest hint that they can appreciate the history of the Obama family and that in Michelle's case, her ancestors were slaves - Jim Robinson of South Carolina, her paternal great-great grandfather, being one. Even after they were freed they were consigned to peonage, second-class citizens, forbidden to vote in much of the South, dissuaded from doing so in some of the North, relegated to separate schools, restaurants, churches, hotels, waiting rooms of train stations, the back of the bus, the other side of the tracks, the mortuary, the cemetery and, if whites could manage it, heaven itself.

It was the government that oppressed blacks, enforcing the laws that imprisoned them and hanged them for crimes grave and trivial, whipped them if they bolted for freedom and, in the Civil War, massacred them if they were captured fighting for the North. And yet if African Americans hesitate in embracing the mythical wonderfulness of America, they are accused of racism - of having the gall to know more about their own experience and history than Palin and others think they should.

Why do politicians such as Palin and commentators such as Glenn Beck insist that African Americans go blank on their own history - as blank as apparently Palin and Beck are themselves?

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KEYWORDS: catfight; cohen; dnctalkingpoints; history; idiotorial; liberalbigot; michelle; palin; palinbashing; playtheracecard; pravdamedia; revisionisthistory
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It was the government that oppressed blacks

History shows that it was mostly RATS doing the oppressin'.

Sarah Palin teases that she might run for president. But she is unqualified - not just in the (let me count the) usual ways, but because she does not know the country.

Does she know more about the country than the rookie Kenyan? I do believe so.

1 posted on 11/23/2010 6:58:17 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather
... and that in Michelle's case, her ancestors were slaves - Jim Robinson of South Carolina, her paternal great-great grandfather, being one.

And if we knew more about Barak's actual ancestry we might know if one of his paternal ancestors was the one who sold Jim Robinson or his parents to the slave traders that eventually brought them to America.

2 posted on 11/23/2010 7:02:14 AM PST by VRWCmember (Jesus called us to be Salt and Light, not Vinegar and Water.)
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To: Libloather

She loves America so yes she is more qualified than him.


3 posted on 11/23/2010 7:02:29 AM PST by RINOS ARE RADICALS
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To: Libloather
the Obama family and that in Michelle's case, her ancestors were slaves...

and in 0bama's case, his ancestors were slave traders.

4 posted on 11/23/2010 7:02:46 AM PST by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: Libloather
",her ancestors were slaves.

My ancestors were slave owners, now I have a black boss.

It helps to know the past, but it has no bearing on the status of the current population.

And as I see it, they are the ones obsessing about race.

5 posted on 11/23/2010 7:04:22 AM PST by TexasPatriot1 ("Tyranny is defined as that which legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry" Jefferson)
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To: Libloather; Jim Robinson
In Michelle's case, her ancestors were slaves - Jim Robinson of South Carolina, her paternal great-great grandfather

Jim, you old man!

6 posted on 11/23/2010 7:06:46 AM PST by bvw (No TSA goon will touch MY stuff)
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To: Libloather
It takes not only herculean mental gymnastics to spin the Obongs like this. It takes supreme gall, unbridled arrogance, and a ability to lie and deceive your fellow citizen. Cohen takes prevarication and spin to new levels. No matter what room either of these two anti-American marxist assholes enter, they are the LEAST competent in the room. A manufactured racist candidate who is an utter failure now has to be protected from all sides lest the morons and libturds who elected this POS are cast as stupid and gullible in promoting such an incompetent candidate.

What must it be like to be a Cohen and get up every morning hating your life, hating America, hating everyone and everything sacred and honorable? What must it be like to have your very first thought of the day how you can lie and deceive the American people again? What a waste of protoplasm this mutant is.

7 posted on 11/23/2010 7:08:44 AM PST by Doc Savage (Stay Thirsty My Friend!!)
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To: Libloather
"They don't offer the slightest hint that they can appreciate the history of the Obama family and that in Michelle's case, her ancestors were slaves "

Probably because, beyond family table-talk, it's completely irrelevant to anything.

8 posted on 11/23/2010 7:09:14 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: Libloather

So, according to libs, all blacks have a free I-hate-America pass?


9 posted on 11/23/2010 7:09:17 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Libloather
if African Americans hesitate in embracing the mythical wonderfulness of America, they are accused of racism

Uh, no. When 95% of blacks vote for the black candidate over the white candidate, and when they support the black candidate in numbers nearly three times the rest of the country, THEN the specter of racism raises its head.

10 posted on 11/23/2010 7:09:26 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Libloather
Did she ask about her background? What it was like at Princeton?

O come on! Michelle is whining about her experience getting a free ride at Princeton, while Palin worked her way through college.

Before we can start comparing scholastic resumes with Palin, I suggest folks try to pass the common sense test first. So far, none of the fruitbats who hang out in their gloomy DC caves have a clue that the sun actually shines on this fair land of ours from time to time.

11 posted on 11/23/2010 7:12:27 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Libloather
ineluctable

12 posted on 11/23/2010 7:12:38 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The people who hate Sarah Palin hate her because they know that her Presidency is inevitable.)
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To: Libloather
"Even after they were freed they were consigned to peonage, second-class citizens, forbidden to vote in much of the South, dissuaded from doing so in some of the North, relegated to separate schools, restaurants, churches, hotels, waiting rooms of train stations, the back of the bus, the other side of the tracks, the mortuary, the cemetery and, if whites could manage it, heaven"

And lets look at "The One's" own history. Because of his skin color he's been given every opportunity and moved ahead of more qualified individuals. From Harvard Law to the Presidency. Meanwhile, Michelle was hired as a figurehead at a hospital, making 300,000 per year to do nothing. So I guess the Obamas are about even now, huh?
13 posted on 11/23/2010 7:16:43 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: anniegetyourgun

“hate America” pass, “hate White people” pass, “Hate Asians” pass, “take your property” pass, etc...


14 posted on 11/23/2010 7:17:37 AM PST by DwFry (Baby Boomers Killed Western Civilization!)
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To: Libloather

Damn. Just how old IS Michelle Obama?


15 posted on 11/23/2010 7:19:35 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Libloather

Come on folks, of course Zero knows more about the country than Sarah Palin. Because he knows about 57 states and she only knows about 50. /s


16 posted on 11/23/2010 7:19:59 AM PST by 23 Everest (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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To: Doc Savage

You get an A+ for such an enjoyable essay...thanks!


17 posted on 11/23/2010 7:20:17 AM PST by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: Libloather

Jim Robinson was once a slave?

Who knew?


18 posted on 11/23/2010 7:20:38 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Libloather
That's about as concise as one can be to illustrate the difference between Libs and Conservatives.

Libs live in the past, Conservatives live for the future.

19 posted on 11/23/2010 7:21:34 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Libloather

Mishelle is an ‘Obama’ by marriage.

The ‘Obama family’ does not HAVE a history in America.


20 posted on 11/23/2010 7:21:55 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Libloather

Good grief. If nothing else works, pull out the old race card.


21 posted on 11/23/2010 7:23:16 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Libloather

“...Jim Robinson of South Carolina, her paternal great-great grandfather”

!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


22 posted on 11/23/2010 7:23:16 AM PST by Elwood P. Doud (America, you voted for a negro socialist with an Islamic name - so why are you surprised?)
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To: Libloather
Mr Cohen appears to forget Dr. M.L.King's "I have a Dream" Speech (08/1963).

I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

Clinging (bitterly?) to victimhood status and the idea of " ... the mythical wonderfulness of America, ..." indicates to me an incapacity to be rational about history on the very face of this polemical screed. If you choose to focus completely upon all of the worst treatment doled out to an entire population over the span of the century-plus post-Civil War without ANY redemptive action is lying about history.

23 posted on 11/23/2010 7:25:46 AM PST by SES1066 (Thank you for your vote in November, now let us get to work!)
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To: Libloather
"in Michelle's case, her ancestors were slaves"

LOL

That's not MY problem, dufus. I wasn't a slaveholder and none of my ancestors were in this country before 1900.

HOWEVER, YOU seem to think that me and others like me MUST pay reparations/affirmative action/free food, housing, etc. just because we're white Christians.

The same as ambulance-chasers, you think the deep pockets assault is somehow justified, even though those who are forced to pay had NOTHING to do with what happened 200+ years ago, nor do most of the recipients even qualify as "descendants of slaves".

You think rewarding because of skin color is FAIR and JUST?

24 posted on 11/23/2010 7:26:32 AM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Libloather
My ancestors had no slaves ever, so who gives a rats arse!
25 posted on 11/23/2010 7:27:56 AM PST by gitmogrunt (My grandparents taught me all I needed to know about Islam.)
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To: Libloather
Why do politicians such as Palin and commentators such as Glenn Beck insist that African Americans go blank on their own history - as blank as apparently Palin and Beck are themselves? It is Cohen who is blank, not Palin or Beck. Beck had an entire show highlighting Black Founding Fathers. Who is Salem Price, Cohen? (Betting he doesn't know.) Who was the black double agent who helped the Americans while pretending to help the British, but actually feeding them believable bullcrap? (Bet he doesn't know that one, either.)

It is commies like Cohen who are ignorant of American history.

26 posted on 11/23/2010 7:27:56 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ("The Constitution is not an instrument for government to restrain the people..." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: Libloather
I wasn't aware Richard Cohen was such a history buff. I sent the following link to him. I highly doubt he'll read it but, hey, it's worth a shot.

KKK - The Terrorist Wing of The DemocRAT Party

27 posted on 11/23/2010 7:29:17 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Libloather
“This was 1952, and the United States was an apartheid nation.”

This is either a deliberate lie or out and out ignorance. The segregationists were all Democrats and most people did not look at America that way in 1952. In the 1950’s American blacks had a higher standard of living than people in almost every country in the world and a much higher standard of living than Blacks in Africa.

The incidents that Cohen brings up are all examples of Democratic Party actions.

The larger point that Cohen tries to make is even more insidious. He states that African Americans should not be patriotic and love America. They should hate America like the Obamas do. He also makes the point that anyone(like Sarah Palin) who suggests otherwise is racist and ignorant of history and unqualified for public office.

Unfortunately, this is the position of the Washington Post and the Washington elites.

The other important part of this position is that African Americans should be blindly loyal to the Democrat Party. This is the party of slavery, segregation and the Ku Klux Klan. This is the party of lynchings and laws aimed at restricting the rights of African Americans. They say that African Americans should blindly blame all of America for any injustice in the past and hate America but love the Democrat Party and be blindly loyal to Democrat politicians.

28 posted on 11/23/2010 7:31:12 AM PST by detective
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To: Libloather; Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ..
They don't offer the slightest hint that they can appreciate the history of the Obama family

That's because Barack Hussein Obama is a racist red diaper doper baby liar who FABRICATED his own "relevant" history. Black people should be angry at him pretending to be affected by history in ways he CLEARY was not.

The Obama Selma march story is full of doo doo.

He claimed that Robert Kennedy and President John Kennedy put together a program that brought his father to America and that in the wake of the Selma freedom marches, his parents came together and he owes his very existence to Selma "So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I’m not coming home to Selma, Alabama."

From Barack's Selma speech:

...something happened back here in Selma, Alabama. Something happened in Birmingham that sent out what Bobby Kennedy called, “Ripples of hope all around the world.” Something happened when a bunch of women decided they were going to walk instead of ride the bus after a long day of doing somebody else's laundry, looking after somebody else's children. When men who had PhD’s decided that's enough and we’re going to stand up for our dignity. That sent a shout across oceans so that my grandfather began to imagine something different for his son. His son, who grew up herding goats in a small village in Africa could suddenly set his sights a little higher and believe that maybe a black man in this world had a chance.

What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation. It worried folks in the White House who said, “You know, we're battling Communism. How are we going to win hearts and minds all across the world? If right here in our own country, John, we're not observing the ideals set fort in our Constitution, we might be accused of being hypocrites.” So the Kennedy’s decided we're going to do an air lift. We're going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.

This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I’m not coming home to Selma, Alabama.

I’m here because somebody marched. I’m here because you all sacrificed for me. I stand on the shoulders of giants. I thank the Moses generation; but we've got to remember, now, that Joshua still had a job to do. As great as Moses was, despite all that he did, leading a people out of bondage, he didn't cross over the river to see the Promised Land. God told him your job is done. You'll see it. You'll be at the mountain top and you can see what I’ve promised. What I’ve promised to Abraham and Isaac and Jacob. You will see that I’ve fulfilled that promise but you won't go there.

- Barack Obama - March 2007

Timeline:

1960 (President is Ike, VP Richard Nixon runs against Senator John Kennedy for the presidency)

Ann Dunham is 18. Her family moves to Honolulu, Hawaii. Ann begins classes at the University of Hawaii.

- She meets Barack Obama Sr. in a Russian-language class. Barack Obama Sr. is a foreign student from Kenya, who has a magnetic personality. Barack Obama Sr. is very opinionated, talkative and passionate. The two start dating.

- Ann tells her parents about her African boyfriend and they invite him for dinner.

January 20, 1961 JFK is sworn into the presidency.

February 2, 1961: Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. get married in Maui in a discreet ceremony. Nobody is invited. At the time of the wedding Ann is already three months pregnant with Barack Obama Jr.

August 4, 1961: Barack Obama Jr. is born. Ann is eighteen. She drops out of college after one semester in the University of Hawaii.

1964

Ann files for divorce from Barack Obama Sr. and he signs the papers.

The Selma to Montgomery marches were three marches in 1965 that marked the political and emotional peak of the American Civil Rights Movement.

They were the culmination of the voting rights movement in Selma, Alabama, launched by Amelia Boynton and her husband. Boynton brought many prominent leaders of the American Civil Rights Movement to Selma, including James Bevel, who initiated and organized the march; Martin Luther King, Jr.; and Hosea Williams.

The first march took place on March 7, 1965 — "Bloody Sunday" — when 600 civil rights marchers were attacked by state and local police with billy clubs and tear gas. The second march took place on March 9. Only the third march, which began on March 21 and lasted five days, made it to Montgomery, 54 miles (87 km) away.

---- Mr. Obama, YOU LIE.

At least Hillary didn't claim that she marched and owed her entire world to the city.

29 posted on 11/23/2010 7:31:35 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Libloather
They don't offer the slightest hint that they can appreciate the history of the Obama family and that in Michelle's case, her ancestors were slaves - Jim Robinson of South Carolina, her paternal great-great grandfather, being one. Even after they were freed they were consigned to peonage, second-class citizens, forbidden to vote in much of the South, dissuaded from doing so in some of the North, relegated to separate schools, restaurants, churches, hotels, waiting rooms of train stations, the back of the bus, the other side of the tracks, the mortuary, the cemetery and, if whites could manage it, heaven itself.

Barack has played this card too. Said that his children are descended from slaves. Yet he himself is not. And in fact he didn't grow up in America in the 1960s, he was living in Indonesia, where he claims he was ignorant of the activities of Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground (a group that did not EXIST until October of 1969).

30 posted on 11/23/2010 7:34:35 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Libloather
Why do politicians such as Palin and commentators such as Glenn Beck insist that African Americans go blank on their own history - as blank as apparently Palin and Beck are themselves?

Because blacks DO go blank on their own history. Here they are, nearly 45 years after LBJ said "I'll have those n*****s voting Democrat for the next 100 years, STILL VOTING DEMOCRAT!

They forget that it was the Democrat party which formed the Jim Crow south after reconstruction. it was the Democrats who created the KKK who terrorized blacks. It was Democrat presidents like Wilson, FDR and Truman who refused to sign anti-lynching laws. Finally, it was the Democrats who created the welfare and education system we have today, which has ruined black families, destroyed inner city schools and created a black society of government dependence, also known as SLAVERY!

31 posted on 11/23/2010 7:36:41 AM PST by apoxonu
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To: Libloather

WHO freaking gives a crap???


32 posted on 11/23/2010 7:37:54 AM PST by MestaMachine (Cogito ergo doleo - I think therefore I am depressed)
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To: Libloather
Why do politicians such as Palin and commentators such as Glenn Beck insist that African Americans go blank on their own history - as blank as apparently Palin and Beck are themselves?

It is Cohen who is blank, not Palin or Beck. Beck had an entire show highlighting Black Founding Fathers. Who is Salem Price, Cohen? (Betting he doesn't know.) Who was the black double agent who helped the Americans while pretending to help the British, but actually feeding them believable bullcrap? (Bet he doesn't know that one, either.)

It is commies like Cohen who are ignorant of American history.

Sorry about the double post, but I had an HTML malfunction on the 1st one.

33 posted on 11/23/2010 7:38:04 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ("The Constitution is not an instrument for government to restrain the people..." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: Libloather
It was a cheap shot, but her husband's selection of Palin for the ticket and plenty of cheap shots from Palin ("death panels," etc.) were yet to come.

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34 posted on 11/23/2010 7:42:10 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Libloather
I suppose by the articles same logic Obama is unqualified to be the president of very many Americans. What understanding does he have of the Native American experience, the Hispanic American experience, the Appalachian experience? The article is devoid of any logic if you think it through.
35 posted on 11/23/2010 7:44:11 AM PST by dog breath
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To: Libloather
It was the government that oppressed blacks, enforcing the laws that imprisoned them and hanged them for crimes grave and trivial, whipped them if they bolted for freedom and, in the Civil War, massacred them if they were captured fighting for the North. And yet if African Americans hesitate in embracing the mythical wonderfulness of America, they are accused of racism - of having the gall to know more about their own experience and history than Palin and others think they should.

There are nations that exhibits this double standard today. They are muslim theocratic governments that persecute Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc.

Why doesn't he wake up to the horrors of modern day Pakistan and Saudi Arabia and Iraq and Indonesia...?

36 posted on 11/23/2010 7:45:36 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Libloather

If Sarah Palin is unqualified to be president of “Black America” and “Hispanic America,” how is Obama qualified to be president of rural America?


37 posted on 11/23/2010 7:46:15 AM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: Libloather; The Comedian; Revolting cat!
no Ellis Island for them, immigrants in their colorful native dress waving at the camera.

Wouldn't have mattered. It was all black and white film back then anyway.

38 posted on 11/23/2010 7:46:49 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Libloather; The Comedian; Revolting cat!
It's hardly possible that she is not knowledgeable about the history of African Americans - no Ellis Island for them, immigrants in their colorful native dress waving at the camera. Should she forget it all simply because she went to Ivy League schools - be thankful for what she had gotten and the hell with the rest? Why should she be more grateful than Cindy McCain?

Especially since this yutz is talking about how certain black immigrants arrived in America. Someone should press him on the history of Daddy Obama. Oh wait, that doesn't fit the meme this idiot is pimping.

39 posted on 11/23/2010 7:49:23 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: dog breath
I was shocked by the assertion in 2008 that it was “about time” a black man was president. Aren't the Indians even more deserving?

And what of Asians who don't even represent a majority-minority status in this country? If everyone can get behind someone who “doesn't look like me”, that would be a bigger statement than 98.9% of people of one skin color voting for someone regardless of his political agenda.

40 posted on 11/23/2010 7:51:59 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Libloather
Sarah Palin teases that she might run for president. But she is unqualified - not just in the (let me count the) usual ways, but because she does not know the country. She could not be the president of black America nor of Hispanic America.

He must be drinking some of Joe Biden's Iraq Kool-Aid and be pushing for a "3-state solution" to divide up the USA into separate nations.

41 posted on 11/23/2010 7:53:39 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Libloather
Sarah Palin teases that she might run for president. But she is unqualified - not just in the (let me count the) usual ways, but because she does not know the country. She could not be the president of black America nor of Hispanic America.

How can Barack Obama represent female America? Oh wait, he grew up abroad...

42 posted on 11/23/2010 7:54:48 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: a fool in paradise

Obama did not set foot on to mainland USA until he was 17, spent a lot of time abroad, and yet he is qualified and knows the country?


43 posted on 11/23/2010 7:55:44 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (I'm not Anti-Obama - I'm Pro-America)
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To: Libloather; abb

They know how to deal with Abominable Snowmen in Alaska.

44 posted on 11/23/2010 7:58:10 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Libloather
If they were driving to Washington, they slowed down and stopped where the sign said "colored" - and the irritated Palins of the time angrily hit the horn and went on their way.

Maybe Sarah should have asked Al Gore about his black maid who used to ride along with the family (and wait in the car while the family dined in white only establishments).

If anything smacks of racism and power trips, it is that sort of thing. I've never even known anyone with a maid or housekeeper.

45 posted on 11/23/2010 7:58:19 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Obama did not set foot on to mainland USA until he was 17, spent a lot of time abroad, and yet he is qualified and knows the country?

Yes because he was raised a true red diaper doper baby by mama and Frank Marshall Davis and Granmama. They taught him all about the evils of this nation.

46 posted on 11/23/2010 8:00:17 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: TexasPatriot1

the Obama family and that in Michelle’s case, her ancestors were slaves...

Exactly! Michelle has a “half empty” mentality that will keep her a bitter, hateful person. If she really thought about it she would just be relieved that no matter what happened before she is here now. Had her family remained in Africa, her life would be very different. So stop complaining and be grateful that all the suffering her ancestors went through has given their children and her children a much better life.


47 posted on 11/23/2010 8:02:57 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: SES1066
Clinging (bitterly?) to victimhood status and the idea of " ... the mythical wonderfulness of America, ..." indicates to me an incapacity to be rational about history on the very face of this polemical screed. If you choose to focus completely upon all of the worst treatment doled out to an entire population over the span of the century-plus post-Civil War without ANY redemptive action is lying about history.

True. Old Communist revisionist history trick. There are some ugly elements in our nation's history. Communists cling to them and berate those who had no ties to that history. Also, there is no comparison to how things were elsewhere in the world at the same time (or are even to this day).

If America was such a rotten place and so hard for a black man to get ahead, why did Barack's daddy come here from Kenya and seek a higher education?

The more the Left seeks to deny America's greatness, the more Americans get p***ed off at their ti-RED arguments.

48 posted on 11/23/2010 8:06:22 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Probably because, beyond family table-talk, it's completely irrelevant to anything.

But I think it'll be fun when they find out that Obama's great-great[...] grandfather is the one who sold Michelle's great-great[...] grandfather into slavery.

49 posted on 11/23/2010 8:06:59 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: marstegreg

I’ve heard it said that Muhammed Ali realized how much better off he was living in America after he went to Africa.


50 posted on 11/23/2010 8:07:24 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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