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My TSA Encounter
No Blasters! ^ | 2:20 pm - Mon, Nov 22, 2010 | Matt Kernan

Posted on 11/23/2010 11:13:43 AM PST by null and void

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To: Phil
Two or three years ago I returned to the US from Europe via the Atlanta airport. Between customs, carrying my luggage to the other place, and the screening to get back into the secured area, I missed my connecting flight. Fortunately there were more flights to my final destination the same day but my luggage didn't make it on the next flight so I had to wait at my final destination airport for the flight after that to get my luggage back.

How soon will the International Terminal be operational?

61 posted on 11/23/2010 1:10:28 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: null and void

This whole article makes no sense...why does one have to go through tsa after customs? Never heard of this what’s the purpose?


62 posted on 11/23/2010 1:13:56 PM PST by databoss
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The feds can’t target the people who commit 99%-plus of the terrorist actions, because Obama has pledged to stand with the Muslims against his fellow-countrymen, which he knows are just a bunch of bigots.


63 posted on 11/23/2010 1:14:03 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: stormer

“You haven’t flow out of France, I see.”

Last time was before 911. But I don’t trust them after all the duplicity.


64 posted on 11/23/2010 1:20:32 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Lou L

I thought so.

I sometimes fly international in/out of ORD and do the same thing. No TSA screening until you re-enter for your connecting flight.

I think the guy posting his experience is not being truthful


65 posted on 11/23/2010 1:23:24 PM PST by Hulka
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To: super7man
“Sometimes you pass through immigration and customs while not leaving the secure area and you can then go on to your next flight without re-screening”

Like arriving at LHR for your connection to another international destination.

66 posted on 11/23/2010 1:27:24 PM PST by Hulka
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To: BluH2o
Perhaps:

a) The writer of the experience made it up for theatrical purposes (play on all the doo-doo going on)

or

b) He misrepresented the situation (unintentionally or intentionally).

I vote for “a.” If the writer had not said he had no connecting flight, it would have been believable. Because he said he had no connecting flight, he sounds awfully like "a."

67 posted on 11/23/2010 1:31:41 PM PST by Hulka
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To: SeeSac
When I said baggage claim it was just because that was where he got dumped.

Bullet six of your post answers the real question. When you are done with Customs you have to transit a secure area to get to the exit of the airport. Even if you aren't connecting they have baggage service from Customs to the exit of the terminal.

This screening of a passenger that isn't connecting is more an issue with a weird terminal setup than anything else.

Domestically, I've made some amazingly short connections through that airport.

68 posted on 11/23/2010 1:34:50 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: stormer
When you arrive and process through customs, you are “dumped” into an unsecure area where people/drivers/families are waiting for you.

I think the writer of this alleged experience is inventing things.

69 posted on 11/23/2010 1:35:02 PM PST by Hulka
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To: USNBandit
When I said baggage claim it was just because that was where he got dumped.

I was emphazing it for the other readers. The key to the issue is that the 'exiting' passenger has free access inside the security area after having access to his checked bags.

70 posted on 11/23/2010 1:41:16 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: screaminsunshine

Take a laminated copy of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights with you to the Airport.

Decline on basis of the 4th amendment.

Case law regarding illegal search and seizure.

And the newly found right to privacy codified in Rowe v Wade.

Plus I think it is a violation of hippa rights.


71 posted on 11/23/2010 1:42:15 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Liberals are educated above their level of intelligence.. Thanks Sr. Angelica)
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To: USNBandit
Even if you aren't connecting they have baggage service from Customs to the exit of the terminal.

I take it that this means that your baggage leaves the secure area right after customs and you go to pick it up somewhere else?

72 posted on 11/23/2010 1:43:10 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Hulka
When you arrive and process through customs, you are “dumped” into an unsecure area where people/drivers/families are waiting for you. I think the writer of this alleged experience is inventing things.

See #58 and #68. At NKI, you are not dumped into a unsecured area. You have to go through the same portal that connecting passengers have to go through. Everyone is in the secure area but connecting passengers have to be re-screened. Since you are co-mingled, arriving passengers are also, by default, screened. This would be eliminated if they were 'dumped' into the unsecure area.

73 posted on 11/23/2010 1:47:49 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Hulka
I sometimes fly international in/out of ORD and do the same thing. No TSA screening until you re-enter for your connecting flight. I think the guy posting his experience is not being truthful

That's the problem. The NKI forces the arriving passenger to 're-enter' along with the connecting passengers.

74 posted on 11/23/2010 1:49:36 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac

That is interesting, as all my international travels for decades and never experienced an aiport situation like that.


75 posted on 11/23/2010 1:55:10 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka
This illustration is helpful. See Item 6 below the diagram.

6: Security Check - A security recheck is necessary because passengers are still in a secure area and have had access to their bags. Connecting passengers do not have to pass through any additional security beyond this point.

http://www.cvgairport.com/terminals/abroad.html

76 posted on 11/23/2010 2:03:59 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: RossA
Can anyone justify TSA inspection of people leaving flights? Trying to leave the airport? Who were already scanned before boarding the flight? Who have already cleared immigration and custom controls? How are these people going to bomb a plane without passing back through security? This has degenerated into a pure power play by the TSA.

It is not a TSA power play. It is an airport specific requirement dictated by the layout. See my previous.

77 posted on 11/23/2010 2:06:20 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: stormer

Good assumption.


78 posted on 11/23/2010 2:09:13 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac
Thank you.

I reassess my initial harsh assessment of the writers description of the event.

79 posted on 11/23/2010 2:15:02 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka
I reassess my initial harsh assessment of the writers description of the event.

But the dude is not understanding the issue. He thinks he beat the 'TSA' policy. He did not and on his next flight if he thinks he will beat it, he will be in for a big surprise.

80 posted on 11/23/2010 2:21:07 PM PST by SeeSac
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