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Net Neutrality for Dummies: Will the FCC control the Internet? (video)
ReasonTV.com ^ | 11/23/2010 | Michael C Moynihan

Posted on 11/23/2010 12:24:07 PM PST by OldDeckHand

Al Gore says that legislation ensuring "net neutrality" is "needed for the revitalization of American democracy."

Techno-vegan Moby says without it, the "egalitarian" Internet would disappear.

Even Mallory from Family Ties, Justine Bateman, thinks "the freedom to access the site of any organization from Planned Parenthood to the Christian Coalition is going to end."

But just what the hell is net neutrality—and is all that is good and holy about the Internet really imperiled if legislation guaranteeing it isn't passed?

Network neutrality is necessary, say its supporters, to make certain that all data on the Internet is treated equally and to protect users from information discrimination on the part of Internet service providers who will slow down or even block access to certain sites.

Reason.tv's Michael C. Moynihan takes a skeptical look at the growing push for net neutrality legislation and asks Peter Suderman, a Reason associate editor who is closely following proposals on the topic, why Moby and Mallory want the Federal Communication Commission, of all agencies, to regulate the Internet.

Approximately 4 minutes. Written by Moynihan. Shot and edited by Dan Hayes and Meredith Bragg.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fcc; government; internet; regulation
A quick, 4:00 video that does a good job explaining why "net neutrality" is a bad idea - just another excuse for government to involve itself in something else it shouldn't be involved in.
1 posted on 11/23/2010 12:24:12 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

WHAT? Is that the Fairness Doctrine for the internet? Or Worse, a VIOLATION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT OF OUR CONSTITUTION....put the buzzheads out of office and Impeach them.


2 posted on 11/23/2010 12:27:18 PM PST by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: OldDeckHand
When you see the Left start to involve has-been actresses and musicians in the "good fight", you know that their intentions aren't good. This is right out of the global warming playbook - claim that there is a crisis in the hopes of ramming through some Leftist, controlling mechanism that allows them to control the flow of information. They can't stand the fact that they don't have control of the message anymore.
3 posted on 11/23/2010 12:30:04 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (Looking forward to kicking Chicago out of Washington.)
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To: OldDeckHand
Net Neutrality is like the Fairness Doctrine.

in effect they will be neither Neutral nor Fair, it will be Carte Blanche for the left to propagandize

4 posted on 11/23/2010 1:10:06 PM PST by Vaquero (Dont pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Let’s be clear: “net neutrality” is a Trojan Horse intended to allow the government to gain control of the internet; both content and access. Don’t be fooled for a nanosecond it’s anything else, not even when has-been actresses are pushing it and coyly reference both left and right wing organizations in their promotions. It’s another government con. Oppose it.


5 posted on 11/23/2010 1:12:07 PM PST by Jim Scott (or)
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To: OldDeckHand

I suppose if Comcast starts screwing around with your access to Hulu you could always dump them and switch to Verizon, but if the Gubbermint gets control of your access to FR there is no turning back.


6 posted on 11/23/2010 1:22:37 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
"I suppose if Comcast starts screwing around with your access to Hulu you could always dump them and switch to Verizon, but if the Gubbermint gets control of your access to FR there is no turning back."

I feel the exact same way about health insurance. You don't like you health insurer, change insurers. Your insurance is provided by your employer and you don't like your insurance, change employers.

But, when the fedgov takes over insurance, who are you going to change to when it sucks?

7 posted on 11/23/2010 1:26:46 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

The government isn’t supposed to get involved in something it created?


8 posted on 11/23/2010 1:29:45 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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"The government isn’t supposed to get involved in something it created?"

The internet today is a lot different, more complex, more distributed and virtually independent of government involvement. Sure, the technology itself has its genesis in government programs. DARPA comes to mind. But, so do a lot of emerging technologies.

Kidney dialysis came directly from the space program. Do you want the government controlling kidney dialysis.

9 posted on 11/23/2010 1:34:47 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Kackikat; Vaquero
Is that the Fairness Doctrine for the internet?

No. Net neutrality means your ISP being neutral towards content, not the content being neutral. Net neutrality is the opposite of fairness doctrine because it would mean the network cannot care about the content at all, and thus no decision as to the content's "neutrality" can be made.

Plus, net neutrality is targeted at ISPs. Fairness doctrine would be targeted at the content producers.

10 posted on 11/23/2010 1:37:13 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

That makes ZERO sense at all to me?????


11 posted on 11/23/2010 1:43:00 PM PST by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: OldDeckHand
Sure, the technology itself has its genesis in government programs. DARPA comes to mind. But, so do a lot of emerging technologies.

The federal government only gave up its full, direct control over the actual Internet in the 90s. The National Science Foundation made the rules that everybody lived by before then. ICANN, which basically manages the Internet, is still doing that under contract from the Department of Commerce. The federal government still retains control over the root DNS for the Internet.

It's not historical. It's here and now.

12 posted on 11/23/2010 1:50:30 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Netbooks have roaming ISP numbers with certain carriers, so it makes no sense that net neutrality would involve the ISP number??? There are Hide ISP number programs, so it has to be something that could invade your privacy, and violate your first amendment rights, if it gives government any knowledge of who you really are, without your approval.

Our right to privacy is violated, and the 4th Amendment of illegal search and seizure, because it gives access to information that comes into our computer at home, and of our ability to surf the web without invasion into our lives AND without a warrant. If we have NOT committed any crime, this violates our Constitutional Rights, both 1st Amendment and 4th Amendment.

NO, NO, NO.


13 posted on 11/23/2010 1:51:00 PM PST by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: Kackikat
Net Neutrality = the NETwork being NEUTRAL towards the content (and protocols, sources, etc.).

If you cannot discriminate based on content, then how is it possible to enforce a policy that the content itself must have some perceived political neutrality? Fairness doctrine from an ISP perspective requires a non-neutral network in order to function.

14 posted on 11/23/2010 1:55:51 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Kackikat

Whatever you’re talking about, it has nothing to do with net neutrality, which is historically the way the Internet has operated. Unless you are covered by certain ISPs, you are currently using the Internet under net neutrality.


15 posted on 11/23/2010 1:59:00 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: OldDeckHand

Let’s get rid of Obama and the Democrats first, and then start turning off the left mouthpieces with ‘Net Neutrality’. Let’s see how they like their Marxist propaganda turned on mute!


16 posted on 11/23/2010 2:10:22 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: antiRepublicrat

Just as important MALLORY! WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU?


17 posted on 11/23/2010 2:56:34 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: OldDeckHand

I thought Mallory had the perfect explanation.

Thanks.

BTW, Mr. FCC, I prefer Diet Coke not Pepsi and I want it now, not when you deem I can, should or might have it.


18 posted on 11/23/2010 3:13:20 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: ronnie raygun

I was thinking the same thing.

Whooooooo!!!!!!!

I had a crush on her when I was younger but zowie!

Game Over!!!


19 posted on 11/23/2010 3:16:41 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

You notice, thet’re not concerned with porn sites. Several yrs. ago I read that 6 out of the top 10 sites were devoted to porn. I doubt if it’s any different now.


20 posted on 11/23/2010 4:20:00 PM PST by Waco (From Seward to Sarah)
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To: Waco

Still about the same.


21 posted on 11/23/2010 4:28:19 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

I was saying that I do not understand, unless it is like the Fairness Doctrine was in 1960s-1980s.... that everything was bland and uninteresting to appease everyone, but you say NO, yet others on thread say YES.

So I’m not saying anything, just trying to understand the point of why we are needing a bill for “net neutrality”, if in fact, that’s what we already have???????


22 posted on 11/23/2010 8:00:05 PM PST by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: Kackikat
I was saying that I do not understand, unless it is like the Fairness Doctrine was in 1960s-1980s

It has absolutely nothing to do with fairness doctrine, period. It doesn't even target the right companies. Content producers, the online news sites, Free Republic, the blogs, etc., would need to be targeted by a fairness doctrine. Net neutrality concerns the ISPs, the pipes the content flows through.

So I’m not saying anything, just trying to understand the point of why we are needing a bill for “net neutrality”, if in fact, that’s what we already have???????

It depends on your ISP. Some have damaged the historic neutrality. Some have blocked VPN, peer to peer and de-prioritized the VOIP of competitors vs. their own VOIP. They also want to treat you the customer as a captive revenue asset, charging content providers (like Netflix, YouTube, or even Free Republic) to get their content to you (remember, you already pay your ISP to get access to that content). Remember that the Internet was built on everybody having equal access to the people -- the MSM's money can't really buy it any more access to the people than Free Republic. But if Free Republic had to pay $$$ to various ISPs in order to get to their customers (that would be us), well, that's not a pretty picture, is it?

So far some threats and stern words from the FCC has mostly worked to keep the net neutral. I'm happy as long as it does. But at some point I fear enforcement of net neutrality may be necessary.

23 posted on 11/23/2010 9:11:39 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Thanks for your explanation.


24 posted on 11/24/2010 1:24:49 PM PST by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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