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DeLay Guilty of Money Laundering
Houston Press ^ | 11/24/10 | Unknown

Posted on 11/24/2010 3:18:25 PM PST by Non-Sequitur

For five years, the case against Tom DeLay for money laundering through his Texans for a Republican Majority PAC has been seemingly trapped in the Texas courts facing pre-trial appeals. On November 1, it finally made it to trial and today the verdict is in: guilty on both money laundering and conspiracy to commit money laundering.

The slightly-less-than-humble DeLay lost his majority leadership in Congress after the indictment came down, but he has maintained his claims that this case was politically motivated throughout the entire process right up to defense attorney Dick DeGuerin's closing arguments.

The jury clearly didn't buy his argument and now DeLay is potentially facing life in prison on money laundering and conspiracy to commit money laundering charges. DeLay is accused of channeling $190,000 in corporate money through his Texans for a Republican Majority PAC in 2002 to aid GOP candidates.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: delay; getdelay; kangaroocourt; moneylaundering; partisanwitchhunt; ronnieearle; showtrial; starchamber; texas; tomdelay
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I sure didn't see that coming.
1 posted on 11/24/2010 3:18:31 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

I was stunned to hear he could be sentenced up to 99 years


2 posted on 11/24/2010 3:20:57 PM PST by Bad~Rodeo (Don't overthink common sense)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I’m sure he had a jury of his peers.I bet he wins on appeal.


3 posted on 11/24/2010 3:21:51 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

The appeal will clear him.


4 posted on 11/24/2010 3:22:03 PM PST by boomop1
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To: Non-Sequitur

Meanwhile, my current and soon to be former congressman did basically the same thing and paid a $250,000 fine and went on to DC.


5 posted on 11/24/2010 3:24:30 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Non-Sequitur; trumandogz

trumandogz called it:

To: gusopol3
The only thing worse than going before a jury on a Friday is going before a jury just before a four day holiday weekend.
6 posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 8:57:46 PM by trumandogz
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6 posted on 11/24/2010 3:24:36 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: Non-Sequitur

A Republican can’t count on a fair trial in Travis County. That’s why the Democrats set it up to have the political trials there (the republicans have been too gutless to change it since they took over.)

So the verdict shouldn’t surprise anyone.


7 posted on 11/24/2010 3:25:37 PM PST by PAR35
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To: boomop1

I gotta think the recent Supreme Court decision striking down a lot of the campaign finance laws will mean that the conviction is overturned in federal court.


8 posted on 11/24/2010 3:26:03 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: gusopol3

I have to say I am stunned.


9 posted on 11/24/2010 3:26:10 PM PST by GoCards (Why me? Why not me?)
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To: Non-Sequitur

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/politics/entries/2010/11/24/delay_judge_think_about_thanks.html?cxntcid=breaking_news

Jurors sent a note on yellow legal paper that a verdict had been reached to the judge at 4:46 p.m. They had deliberated since Monday afternoon.

They sent word that they had reached a verdict at 4:46 p.m. today.

DeLay was charged with money laundering and conspiracy to commit money. He faces a possible sentence of 5-99 years in prison and a maximum $10,000 fine on the money laundering charge, and 2-20 years in prison and a possible $10,000 fine on the conspiracy charge.


10 posted on 11/24/2010 3:26:10 PM PST by deport
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To: Non-Sequitur

This could set the tone for what happens to a number of Democrats in the coming year with Republicans in control of Congress.


11 posted on 11/24/2010 3:26:17 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Non-Sequitur

I’m not in favor of Democrat or GOP crooks. Throw the bums out and into jail if they have committed crimes.


12 posted on 11/24/2010 3:26:37 PM PST by Drango (NO-vember is payback for April 15th)
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To: Non-Sequitur

This persecution of Tom Delay is beyond unbelievable. Every politician could be convicted of money laundering with these standards. Perhaps politics should be illegal.


13 posted on 11/24/2010 3:26:42 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: Bad~Rodeo
And both the Clinton`s and Obama`s are walking around free??? Go figure.

Ridiculous verdict!!!

14 posted on 11/24/2010 3:27:25 PM PST by Friendofgeorge (SARAH 2012 OR BUST)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

I don’t believe he’s guilty but the jury verdict stands. I hope/pray he wins on appeal.

Regardless, this presents an opportunity to prosecute numerous Demo0crats for similar and worse abuses or the system. Failure to do that negates efforts to ‘clean up’ congress and hold them accountable. IF Delay can be convicted on such flimsy evidence, surly Pelosi, Franks, Dodd, Reid and others deserve similar scrutiny.


15 posted on 11/24/2010 3:27:51 PM PST by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: the law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I don’t know the facts in the case. Nevertheless, if he did do this, then I have no sympathy. I play by the rules, and so should Mr. Delay.


16 posted on 11/24/2010 3:28:13 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: PAR35

A Republican can’t count on a fair trial in Travis County. That’s why the Democrats set it up to have the political trials there (the republicans have been too gutless to change it since they took over.)


They need to go farther and take this kind of investigations out of the hands of the Travis County DA and place it in the hands of the State Attorney General. This is more of a statewide investigation rather than a local County investigation.


17 posted on 11/24/2010 3:29:04 PM PST by deport
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To: Non-Sequitur

What else is a PAC supposed to do?


18 posted on 11/24/2010 3:29:40 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Sprite518

Facts often times don’t matter. Politics does.


19 posted on 11/24/2010 3:29:51 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Rational Thought
This could set the tone for what happens to a number of Democrats in the coming year with Republicans in control of Congress.

Amen. And let's start at the Oval Office!!

I am stunned and pissed!

20 posted on 11/24/2010 3:29:58 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Non-Sequitur

I sure didn’t see that coming.

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In Austin? I did.

Show trial by a political prosecutor in a leftist jurisdiction.


21 posted on 11/24/2010 3:30:14 PM PST by Psalm 144
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To: Drango

I know of several GOP crooks in TX and elsewhere. I wouldn’t want life in prison for them though.


22 posted on 11/24/2010 3:30:41 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I’m not here to defend wrongdoing. I still find it somewhat difficult to believe that standing out front of an election precinct with a night-stick is okay, and conducting fund-raising as it’s been done for decades, is not.

With us it seems to be letter of the law, and with the Left it seems always to be attributable to a simple misunderstanding.

Equal justice? Sure, and ACORN is just another wholesome entity on the American scene.

Hermandad Nacional registers illegals to vote in California, contributes to the loss of a Congressional seat? No problem. Don’t do it again fellas.

Sheesh.


23 posted on 11/24/2010 3:31:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Your next chance like this? About 2044. Vote popularity and don't waste time with the details.)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Especially since the current Congress is raiding the national treasury to the tune of trillions of dollars with no consequence.


24 posted on 11/24/2010 3:31:32 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I didn’t either, but I do want to hear more before I buy into this verdict.


25 posted on 11/24/2010 3:31:37 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Your next chance like this? About 2044. Vote popularity and don't waste time with the details.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Delay vs the corrupt slime from NY.

Wanna bet which one was much more corrupt?

Wanna bet which one gets the most severe penalties?

Answer: Q1: The black guy.
Answer: Q2: The white guy.

And we wonder why respect for congress is just below that of a fly that has landed on Barney...er ...a t*rd.


26 posted on 11/24/2010 3:31:41 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Non-Sequitur
The slightly-less-than-humble DeLay

I always like it when the news report is so unbiased that they just give me the facts without throwing in opinion.

27 posted on 11/24/2010 3:31:44 PM PST by w1andsodidwe (How can you tell when the President is lying? When his lips move, of course.)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

The al-qaida terrorist convicted of one of 284 counts last week will likely get a 20-30 year sentence, while DeLay could get 99. WTF?


28 posted on 11/24/2010 3:32:08 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

You just watch this go away after an appeal.


29 posted on 11/24/2010 3:32:08 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Your next chance like this? About 2044. Vote popularity and don't waste time with the details.)
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To: boomop1
The appeal will clear him.

Yes indeed! "The Hammer" should and must go free! He's a great Constitutional Conservative American Patriot in my estimation.

One of the many data points that make Tom DeLay a good man is that he got a 0% approval rating from the union thugs of the AFL-CIO. Another plus for Mr. DeLay is his total and complete disapproval from the Marxist/Leninist outfit known as the ACLU.

These trumped up charges against this fine Texan come from fifth columnists.

Fight them Tom! Smash them with The Hammer!


30 posted on 11/24/2010 3:32:14 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas...)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Corporate donations to a PAC are money laundering? That ought to make a lot of corporations and PACs nervous. And will Democrats who do this get the same penalties? Not a chance.


31 posted on 11/24/2010 3:33:24 PM PST by popdonnelly (Class warfare is Obama's thing.)
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To: Drango
Let`s start with Hillary for making 100 grand over night, insider trading!

What about infanticide? Bill, Hillary and Obama are all guilty. They should all be tried at a international court for crimes against humanity, who is more innocent than a unborn baby?

This rant is not aimed at anybody here, just saying that this verdict is ridiculous, and clearly the jury was selected for their left leaning politics! These jury picking experts are good at doing this.

32 posted on 11/24/2010 3:33:31 PM PST by Friendofgeorge (SARAH 2012 OR BUST)
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To: PAR35

I wonder if there was a democrat on the jury that was highly pissed off about the recent election/Bristol Palin/Sarah Palin/global warming/etc.


33 posted on 11/24/2010 3:34:03 PM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: boomop1
"The appeal will clear him."

Not to pick-nits, appellate courts don't "clear" people. Appellate courts her appeals from litigants (defendants, in this case) that argue the trial judge erred in his application of law. They don't find fact, therefor they can't "clear" anyone. If the judge made no mistake(s), the verdict will unlikely be overturned. Even if it was, Delay would then put him at the mercy of another prosecution.

Succinctly put, this is bad.

34 posted on 11/24/2010 3:34:03 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Non-Sequitur
Best I can tell, the questions were: Was the Money Swap legal? Were corporate donations used? Did Delay know about the swap? Did he lie about knowing?

I haven't seen anywhere that the prosecution proved any of them other than Delay potentially knew about the swap and may have lied about it.

Is this correct?

35 posted on 11/24/2010 3:34:55 PM PST by FTJM
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To: DoughtyOne

Once upon a time when I said that there were different rules for dhimmicrats than for Republicans I was being facetious - no more.


36 posted on 11/24/2010 3:35:00 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I don’t understand this case. Maybe someone knowledgable can tell me if I have this right or wrong.

Delay had at least $190,000 in his PAC. He asked for corporate contributions and got at least $190,000 from corporations. He then gave $190,000 for various Republicans running for Texas office.

DeLay’s interpretation of this is that he gave the non-corporation money to the Republicans and just refilled the PAC with corporate money. The conviction is based on the interpretation that the $190,000 given to Republicans came from the corporations. And since it is illegal for corporations to donate to Texas candidates, then it would be illegal for Delay to give them money indirectly from corporations using his PAC.

Do I have that right? That Delay’s argument is that he had enough non-corporation private donation money in his PAC that it covered the $190,000 given to the Texas GOP candidates?

If I have this right, this is like telling a food stamp recipient he can’t use his new $100 food stamp to buy booze, but giving him that $100 for food frees up the $100 he was going to use for food that is now available for booze. Sleezy and against intent, but perfectly legal as long as he does not use the actual food stamp money directly for booze.

Do I have this case right or am I missing out on the details?


37 posted on 11/24/2010 3:35:08 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (TSA apologists deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. END the TSA.)
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To: gusopol3

He had the best defense attorney in the state and they could not stall the case going to the jury a couple more days.

The jurors looked at each other and decided, “We are going home for Thanksgiving and in order to do that we have to sent Tom to prison.”


38 posted on 11/24/2010 3:35:14 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: Rational Thought
I do agree. There may be more than a few Democrats that are going to regret this next year.

This was a political show trial on trumped charges tried with a politicized, hostile jury.

If there is any justice, Delay will win on appeal. Compared to what we are seeing with the Democrats for the last several years, Delays charges are like giving out a speeding ticket at the Indy 500

39 posted on 11/24/2010 3:35:15 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: Non-Sequitur

As I understand, the jury foreperson was a female Greenpeace activist. There were six Democrats, 1 Republican, 3 Liberal Independents and 2 “Moderate” Independents.

Just like the Scooter Libby trial, this was a travesty. I pray for true Justice to come to our country. It isn’t here now.

Democrats literally get away with murder. Republicans get their lives ruined or 99 years for non-crimes.


40 posted on 11/24/2010 3:35:49 PM PST by eCSMaster
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To: Sprite518

I agree with you but I am NOT convinced everyone is playing by the same rules. NO offense, but does appear this has to play out before we react.

OTOH, there is nothing stopping us from commenting to the same ‘powers that be’.


41 posted on 11/24/2010 3:37:40 PM PST by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: the law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: Friendofgeorge

“...Clinton`s and Obama`s are walking around free???”

and likely Rangel.


42 posted on 11/24/2010 3:39:26 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Non-Sequitur

November 6th, 2012: please come sooner!


43 posted on 11/24/2010 3:40:04 PM PST by yield 2 the right ( Space blank until I come up with a nice Tagline.)
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To: Morgan in Denver
Then you better hope the country is full of Ronnie Earle's..../s

Travis County District Attorney, Ronnie Earle (D) has prosecuted 16 politicians : twelve democrats and four republicans. He successfully prosecuted a state treasurer, a House speaker, a state Supreme Court justice and several legislators – all Democrats. Republicans cite his case against Republican Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison as example of partisanship. When the Democratic judge ruled computer records inadmissable, Earle dropped that case. He has a 91 percent conviction rate in jury trials.

•US Rep. Tom DeLay on Earle - "partisan fanatic" and "a runaway district attorney

•Rep. Henry Bonilla (San Antonio) - "a partisan crackpot"

(About.com US Politics)

44 posted on 11/24/2010 3:41:44 PM PST by Bad~Rodeo (Don't overthink common sense)
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To: Sprite518
if he did do this, then I have no sympathy

Nor do I! If he's found guilty then get him out of office, I'm tired of trying to defend these guys against a number of libtards on a local website.........

45 posted on 11/24/2010 3:41:58 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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To: OldDeckHand

Not to pick-nits, appellate courts don’t “clear” people. Appellate courts her appeals from litigants (defendants, in this case) that argue the trial judge erred in his application of law. They don’t find fact, therefor they can’t “clear” anyone.

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Small exception in Louisiana, where a court of appeal ( not court of appeals in La) can, if they wish, review the facts. Typically they do not.

Agree that this is bad. It is a BS political trial.


46 posted on 11/24/2010 3:42:26 PM PST by Psalm 144
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To: Non-Sequitur

The campain finance laws are complicated and convoluted, basically f’d up. It’s like the tax code, I try my best to be correct and even use a software program. But I can’t tell you with 100% certainty that they are correct.


47 posted on 11/24/2010 3:42:52 PM PST by ironman
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To: deport

The essence of the case involves the state law and was it broken........

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/politics/entries/2010/11/24/delay_judge_think_about_thanks.html?cxntcid=breaking_news

Delay, a Republican who was nicknamed “The Hammer” because of his heavy-handed style, was accused of conspiring to funnel $190,000 of corporate money through the Republican National Committee, which sent $190,000 in campaign donations to seven GOP candidates for the Texas House.

State law prohibits corporations from giving donations to candidates directly or indirectly.


48 posted on 11/24/2010 3:42:59 PM PST by deport
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To: Non-Sequitur
Does this mean EVERY Congressman that has done Quid Pro Quo for Lobbyist is going to be prosecuted and jailed for 99 years? They ALL do it, or you wouldn't have millions "donated" to their campaigns to win a $150K/yr. job....

This is a joke, right?

49 posted on 11/24/2010 3:43:08 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: ScottinVA

IMO this is a victimless crime


50 posted on 11/24/2010 3:45:35 PM PST by Bad~Rodeo (Don't overthink common sense)
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