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‘Leaving Cal.’ list grows to 144 firms
Orange County Register ^ | Jan Norman | 9/23/2010

Posted on 11/25/2010 1:26:21 AM PST by South40

Irvine consultant Joe Vranich, who has been compiling a list of companies leaving California because of the state’s anti-business environment, is now up to 144 companies that have departed in 2010, including 34 in Orange County.

In addition, he lists 51 companies (8 from Orange County) that left in 2009. That three-fold increase, Vranich says, is the tip of the iceberg that is California’s financial woes.

“Quite clearly, the exodus of businesses out of California continues. It makes sense for companies to reduce their California footprint considering the ample supply of attractive, lower-cost alternative locations. Unless California reduces its hostility toward business, we will see more commercial enterprises seeking friendlier locations in which to relocate entirely or at least place facilities there that used to be located here.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: business; businesses; california; firms; grows; leaving; list
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1 posted on 11/25/2010 1:26:24 AM PST by South40
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To: South40

That’s just the way these companies are...they keep trying to make...dare I say it?...profits!


2 posted on 11/25/2010 1:36:24 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: South40
Kamala Harris just took the AG position. She is a radical environmentalist with CA companies in the crosshairs on environmental issues. One more reason to pack up for a more business friendly state. The failure to pass prop 23 means the AB32 greenhouse gas BS is coming to strangle the business community. Leave before it bankrupts you business.
3 posted on 11/25/2010 1:41:35 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: count-your-change
44 companies [...] have departed in 2010, including 34 in Orange County.

And to think that Orange County used to be very Conservative. Even the notorious Los Angeles Times was a mildly to-the-right newspaper at one time. Of course, I'm referring to the California I recall from the 50's and 60's.

That version of California exists only in small pockets (inland from the coastal regions) nowadays I suppose.

4 posted on 11/25/2010 1:45:04 AM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas...)
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To: South40

Just be sure that when they leave California, they also leave “liberalism” and collusive mentality behind them.

Check out these entities! They could be “contaminated” with liberal ideas.


5 posted on 11/25/2010 1:50:34 AM PST by convertedtoreason ( Nature tells us to take a LIBERTARIAN CONSERVATIVE stance)
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To: South40
Not sure exacrtly where "Galt's Gulch" is -- but it is definitely NOT in California.
6 posted on 11/25/2010 1:53:20 AM PST by RonDog
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To: South40

“‘Leaving Cal.’ list grows to 144 firms”

What a bias the media has against small business! That number is MUCH larger than 144. Count all the small businesses that have left with their owners, and all the small businesses that WOULD HAVE BEEN large in the future.

How many future Amazons have left California, still in someone’s garage?

Or how many Dells have left, still in some kid’s dorm room?

Or how many Apples? The list goes on and on.

Not all companies can we now see!

Now calculate the cost of high regulations.


7 posted on 11/25/2010 2:22:37 AM PST by PastorBooks
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To: South40

So you want to do business in California?
http://www.sgc.ca.gov/meetings/20101203/


8 posted on 11/25/2010 2:24:40 AM PST by marsh2
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To: Myrddin

I guess Californians dont need jobs. God bless them.


9 posted on 11/25/2010 2:25:13 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER

It’s not just Californians. NAFTA saw thousnds of manufacturing jobs leave the US, and our politicians said it was good for America!


10 posted on 11/25/2010 2:39:08 AM PST by chainsaw ( 'You know that your landing gear is up and locked when it takes full power to taxi to the terminal)
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To: Myrddin
I've owned and operated a business in California for the past 30 years. At its peak it employed just under 300 people; we're currently at 75. I retired a few years back but maintain the company for two reasons; a) it remains profitable, though barely and b) I want to continue to employ those 75, many who have been with the company for decades. But with sky high Workers Comp rates, serious resource issues, rolling blackouts and water rationing and the democRATs' recession, it's getting harder and harder to stay afloat.

My friend Chuck Buck, owner of Busk Knives moved his production to Idaho years ago and the company is doing fine. He had that option, I don't. So the inevitable is bound to happen; I'm just putting it off as long as I can.

11 posted on 11/25/2010 2:41:59 AM PST by South40 (My computer beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kickboxing!)
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To: PastorBooks

That number is MUCH larger than 144.

I believe you're right. I heard Rick Perry say that in the first 9 months of this year alone, he recruited 193 firms, and that's only the firms that moved to Texas.

12 posted on 11/25/2010 3:13:06 AM PST by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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To: South40

And this doesn’t include national companies that still maintain a presence in California, but have moved many of their support employees to other states. Some smaller technology companies have done the same.
My company provides a service in California but we now have 25% the number of employees we had four years ago. We have no plans in the foreseeable future to hire again, assuming we’re even able to maintain a profitable business to retain the remaining employees.


13 posted on 11/25/2010 4:49:52 AM PST by RLM
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To: South40

The company I worked for planned to build an asphalt terminal in Stockton on city (formerly military) property.
By the time the state air board, the county board, the neighborhood board and the Coast Guard got done with us, we built the thing in Reno.


14 posted on 11/25/2010 5:03:22 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: convertedtoreason
Just be sure that when they leave California, they also leave “liberalism” and collusive mentality behind them.

Exactly. Washington State, Oregon and Colorado are already flaming blue states because the same failed-state liberals from California moved there and cheerfully voted for the same politicians who support the same policies.

15 posted on 11/25/2010 5:12:44 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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I really don’t care.

An overwhelming majority of California voters have for decades voted for Democrats and liberals (Gov. Moon Beam).

Finally, reality will hit when they have driven the economic engine out of the state with their bizarre anti-capitalist laws.


16 posted on 11/25/2010 5:13:37 AM PST by WaterBoard
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To: South40

Oh not to worry. All those hard working illegal aliens will generate plenty of taxes support the state budget.


17 posted on 11/25/2010 5:15:09 AM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: pnh102

Yep - Liberalism and its entitlement mentality has nearly destroyed Washington State. Not sure if these people will ever awake from their “give me what is mine” mentality.


18 posted on 11/25/2010 5:25:09 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: South40

Then there’s this....

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/nov/18/rick-perry/gov-rick-perry-says-153-businesses-have-moved-cali/


19 posted on 11/25/2010 5:27:52 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: South40

It’s working. The enviros want no people. The goal is being achieved.


20 posted on 11/25/2010 5:31:32 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: South40

Makes me wonder how many have bugged outta NYS....


21 posted on 11/25/2010 5:31:35 AM PST by mewzilla (Hey, Schumer, how's that Lockerbie bomber deal investigation coming along?)
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To: mewzilla

My sense is we are heading for an economic sesession shortly. Those states who have been realistic and have kept taxes and regs in tow are NOT going to want to underwrite the fiscally and regulatary out of control states like California and New York and a few others.


22 posted on 11/25/2010 5:53:29 AM PST by Mouton
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To: convertedtoreason

My Company being one of them, hello Mexico, hello Kentucky. My last day was yesterday.


23 posted on 11/25/2010 6:02:20 AM PST by DAC21
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To: Mouton
Well, Upstate NY is mostly red bits.

What Upstate needs is its own state.

BTW, if the red bits of PA wanna come with us, works fer me, too :)

24 posted on 11/25/2010 6:05:21 AM PST by mewzilla (Hey, Schumer, how's that Lockerbie bomber deal investigation coming along?)
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To: South40

Only business predicted to thrive in CA: U Haul.


25 posted on 11/25/2010 6:18:06 AM PST by jazminerose (o)
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To: pnh102

Amen to that. If they’re moving because of taxes and regulation but bringing their social liberalism which is the cause of those things, I wish they’d just stay put. Liberalism is like a parasite, it kills its host and moves to the next. People who call themselves “fiscal conservatives” while being socially liberal are fooling themselves.


26 posted on 11/25/2010 6:19:48 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: jazminerose
Only business predicted to thrive in CA: U Haul.

U-Haul and Penske are also doing well in the northeast...

27 posted on 11/25/2010 6:21:03 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: mewzilla
Makes me wonder how many have bugged outta NYS....

You know people are fleeing a state when they lose a Congressman or two...

28 posted on 11/25/2010 6:23:38 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: South40

good post - someone tell HP that the 200,000,000 they pay in CAlif. state taxes would be cut in half if they move into the properties that they own in Texas.


29 posted on 11/25/2010 6:26:01 AM PST by q_an_a (a)
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To: Myrddin
Welcome to Arizona ex-California Businesses.

BTW, leave any egg stealing, dumb-a**, liberal/”Progressive” employees/partners in California. They and their ilk are the ones who drove you out.

30 posted on 11/25/2010 6:31:06 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: South40

Let La Raza have it. But with the stipulation that all registered Democrats must stay.


31 posted on 11/25/2010 7:03:30 AM PST by Savage Beast ("You can, in fact must, shout 'fire' in a crowded theatre. It just has to be the truth." J. Goldberg)
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To: South40

Bless you for your selfless efforts.


32 posted on 11/25/2010 7:08:02 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: PA-RIVER

I heard a Californian say “we’ve got the weather” as if that was enough.

Was it a Californian who coined the phrase “the weather is beautiful wish you were here” ?


33 posted on 11/25/2010 7:17:10 AM PST by Ditter
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To: South40
How to start a trucking business in California
34 posted on 11/25/2010 7:19:41 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah, where the world comes to see America)
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To: RonDog
Not sure exacrtly where "Galt's Gulch" is -- but it is definitely NOT in California.

Ironically, there is a town named "Galt" in California.

35 posted on 11/25/2010 7:36:57 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: South40

This list includes entire companies, but there are divisions of companies even larger that have left. I know a division of 800 people that are now in three other states.


36 posted on 11/25/2010 7:45:48 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: South40

Got a company that needs about an acre or so under roof?

A truss company opened in my burg just as everything hit the skids & it is standing vacant. Brand new construction. Employee parking, large lot/area for staging materials prior to manufacturing. Directly adjacent to US Hwy 95-A & about 1/4 mile from U S Hwy 50. About 17 miles from Interstate 80.

I don’t know the name of the company that wanted to start the truss company, but with construction down to ZERO here in N Nevada, nothing is happening there.

If you want to Google Earth the location, it is on the west side of 95-A, about 1/4 mile south of Hwy 50. I don’t have the ability to Google Earth anything, so I cannot give you coordinates. The burg is Silver Springs. There are many empty houses lost in forclosure which could be had for decent prices, if you can get the banks off their asses & deal with the sales.


37 posted on 11/25/2010 7:52:51 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: who knows what evil?

I suspect any state run by libtards is a gold mine for U Haul since all progressive utopias are losing population.


38 posted on 11/25/2010 7:53:42 AM PST by jazminerose (o)
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To: ridesthemiles

Nevada has NO state income taxes- for individuals or corporations. Look at your state tax returns—how much are you paying Calif to be there?
Look at the money you are deducting from your employee payroll & see how much they are paying to stay there.

Workmen’s comp is also lower.

I can try to help from this end with more contacts, if anyone is interested.


39 posted on 11/25/2010 7:54:29 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: chainsaw

It’s not just Californians. NAFTA saw thousnds of manufacturing jobs leave the US, and our politicians said it was good for America!


And the politicians in the European capitols said the European Union would be good for them.

Even the Swiss politicos and business leaders were pushing the country to join the EU for fear of being isolated from their biggest trading partners, but the people voted it down in a national referendum. I suspect the Swiss feel they made the right decision.


40 posted on 11/25/2010 8:05:59 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Ditter

It;s “Weather is here, wish you were beautiful”.


41 posted on 11/25/2010 8:23:46 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Yes I have heard that too. :D


42 posted on 11/25/2010 8:27:00 AM PST by Ditter
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To: jazminerose

New York and Ohio are expected to lose TWO Congressmen each based on the 2010 Census...that’s a LOT of U-Hauls... :-)


43 posted on 11/25/2010 8:27:57 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: South40

The company I work for did this. It’s a small company though, only a few million/yr.


44 posted on 11/25/2010 8:51:33 AM PST by bkepley
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To: All
We are relocating our headquarters to Wyoming at the first of the year.

No need to be headquarted in California in the digital age.

45 posted on 11/25/2010 9:47:17 AM PST by troy McClure
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To: South40

aaah, too bad


46 posted on 11/25/2010 11:10:39 AM PST by phockthis
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To: South40
Buck started in Mountain Home, Idaho. When the electric rates and disability costs went up, he looked into a return to Idaho from El Cajon. Idaho made it easy to move. He set up the business in Post Falls. Buck has always made a good product. Now, they can thrive in a more business friendly environment.

My son had 3 corporations and 60 employees doing real estate in San Diego. The bottom dropped out in 2008. As a broker, his sole income was $395 per transaction for making sure all the paperwork was in order. That still amounted to almost $8,000 per month. When everything went to full stop, he lost his car and was having trouble making enough to even eat. I moved him to my 2nd house in Pocatello where he is doing much better.

Hang in. I'm prepared to drive to Omaha if my company decides to close up shop in CA. That's where the current customer is located. It's only 70 miles further away from my home than the current arrangement working out of Rancho San Diego.

47 posted on 11/25/2010 4:49:49 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: SandRat
Old Welsh proverb: "A man who would steal an egg will steal more."
48 posted on 11/25/2010 4:51:11 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: ridesthemiles
Got a company that needs about an acre or so under roof?

A truss company opened in my burg just as everything hit the skids & it is standing vacant. Brand new construction. Employee parking, large lot/area for staging materials prior to manufacturing.

I did not think there were that many people with hernias . . .

49 posted on 11/25/2010 5:27:17 PM PST by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Sweden and Norway rejected it too. But they were thinking about joining.

There is no way they will join it now.


50 posted on 11/26/2010 2:21:45 AM PST by chainsaw ( 'You know that your landing gear is up and locked when it takes full power to taxi to the terminal)
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