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Child sacrifice cases stun India
Deutsche Presse Agentur (via M&C) ^ | 11/25/2010

Posted on 11/25/2010 4:38:38 AM PST by markomalley

New Delhi - Police in India's central state of Chhattisgarh have arrested seven people for allegedly sacrificing two children to gain 'supernatural powers,' officials said Thursday.

Witch-doctor Ishwari Yadav, his wife Kiranbai and five of their disciples were arrested after police found the bodies of a 2-year-old boy and a 6-year-old girl at their home in Durg district Wednesday.

'The boy was killed on Tuesday and the girl was murdered some six months ago,' district police chief Amit Kumar said in a telephone interview. '(The suspects) were arrested for holding human sacrifices and have confessed their crimes.'

'During questioning the couple admitted that they had offered the sacrifices for appeasing the Hindu goddess Kali and attaining occult powers and wealth,' Kumar said.

According to Kumar, the murders which have caused outrage in the region, were uncovered after the boy's father alerted the police when his son went missing.

During the investigation, the police determined that the boy was last spotted at Yadav's house.

The police raided the house and found the body of the child buried under an idol in a worship room.

The police, who seized a knife used for the crime, later also found the skeletal remains of the girl.

Human sacrifice has long been banned in India, but cases have been reported from underdeveloped regions where superstitions hold sway.

In April, the beheaded body of a factory worker was found in a Kali temple in West Bengal state.

Kali is widely worshipped across India and has several forms, including that of a benevolent mother figure and a dark and violent destroyer of evil wearing a garland of skulls.


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1 posted on 11/25/2010 4:38:41 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

If you don’t believe in G_d, you’ll believe in anything.


2 posted on 11/25/2010 4:43:42 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you, O you most proud, said the Lord God of hosts.)
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To: markomalley

It happens at Planned Parenthood facilities every day - young human beings dismembered to please the gods and the Demoncratic party.


3 posted on 11/25/2010 4:44:29 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: markomalley

straight out of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom


4 posted on 11/25/2010 4:48:04 AM PST by ari-freedom (Islam is at war against America, while America is at the mall.)
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To: markomalley

All cultures are equal: American, Aztec, Nazi...


5 posted on 11/25/2010 5:03:58 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

these people are doing our IT development work....


6 posted on 11/25/2010 5:13:19 AM PST by vortec94
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To: markomalley

I’ve encountered some very arrogant and condescending Indians on various internet forums, who are absolutely convinced of their superiority over anything domestic to the United States.

They appear to believe the world and the future are theirs and we are of the past. They tout Hinduism as being ever so much more amenable to modern science, to evolution, in comparison to Christianity. There have even been several FReepers pushing Hinduism on creation/evolution threads with this as justification.

So enlightened, child sacrifice for magical powers. The wave of the future. We can’t possibly hope to compete. /s


7 posted on 11/25/2010 5:27:19 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: rawcatslyentist
If you don’t believe in G_d, you’ll believe in anything.

It is belief in G_d
without the Vision Granted through the Torah
or Grace Appointed through Jesus

8 posted on 11/25/2010 5:37:06 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: markomalley
Planned Parenthood applauds


9 posted on 11/25/2010 6:11:51 AM PST by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: rawcatslyentist
If you don’t believe in G_d, you’ll believe in anything.

People such as these who believe in supernatural powers tend to believe in God, yes?

I'm reminded of a story (probably apocryphal) of a British colonial administrator in India in the 19th Century. It seems the locals where going kill the widow of a recently deceased man (the practice being know as "Sati"). The administrator told them that they couldn't do this, and they protested that he was interfering with their customs. His reply:

Her Majesty's government respects local customs. We will not interfere with your practices, do as you will. However, I would point out that we have a custom as well. We hang those responsible for the murder of old women.

Feel free to practice your custom. Rest assured that we will practice ours.

10 posted on 11/25/2010 6:39:10 AM PST by Abin Sur
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To: James C. Bennett
*PING*

Care to go on one of your atheistic rants about *this* god, or will you sweep it under the rug because it's about India?

...or frantically search for a "tu quoque"?

11 posted on 11/25/2010 6:48:35 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: CJ Wolf; aragorn; houeto; Quix; B4Ranch; Whenifhow; Silentgypsy; Lurker; BenKenobi; ...
"Insanity Wave" ping.

Ping list scanning the increase of insane murder and suicide statements and events, and mental meltdowns.

FReepmail me if you want on or off The Comedian's "Insanity Wave" ping list...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

12 posted on 11/25/2010 7:42:01 AM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Simple question. Why did this stun India?


13 posted on 11/25/2010 8:08:03 AM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: The Comedian

I don’t know if you are aware or not . . . there have been persistent rumors that OThuga sacrificed one of his very young daughters to join the Illuminati


14 posted on 11/25/2010 8:13:12 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: grey_whiskers

http://library.thinkquest.org/04oct/00803/Yates_Frameset.htm

Andrea Yates

Biography

Andrea Pia Kennedy was born on July 2, 1964, in Houston, Texas. She was the youngest of five children and was raised in a Catholic household. She was the captain of the swim team and an officer in the National Honors Society before she graduated from Milby High School in 1982. Andrea then continued to a two-year pre-nursing program at the University of Houston before graduating in 1986 from the nursing school at the University of Texas. She worked as a nurse at the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center. In the summer of 1989, she met twenty-five-year-old Russell “Rusty” Yates at the Sunscape Apartments in Houston, Texas. Rusty and Andrea soon moved in together and got married on April 17, 1993. Afterwards, they bought a four-bedroom house in the town of Friendswood. Following the birth of their son Noah in February of 1994, Rusty accepted a job offer in Florida, so the family moved there and lived in a small trailer in Seminole. After the birth of their third son, Paul, they moved back to Houston and bought a GMC motor home.

It was after the birth of Luke, her fourth son, that Andrea became depressed. Her condition may have been brought on by the extremist sermons of Michael Woroniecki, the preacher who sold them their bus. Andrea’s family was concerned by the way that Andrea was so captivated by the minister’s words. On June 16, 1999, Rusty found Andrea shaking and chewing her fingers. The next day, she attempted to commit suicide by overdosing on pills. She was admitted to the hospital, and prescribed antidepressants. Soon after her release, she begged her husband to let her die as she held a knife up to her neck. Once again hospitalized, she was given a mixture of medications including Haldol, an anti-psychotic drug. Her condition improved immediately, and she was prescribed Haldol on her release. After that, Rusty moved the family into a small house for the sake of Andrea’s health. Things were going very well.

Murder

Andrea stopped taking the Haldol in March of 2000 and gave birth to Mary Yates on November 30 of that year. She seemed to be coping well until the death of her father on March 12, 2001. She then stopped talking, mutilated herself, and read the Bible feverishly. Andrea also stopped feeding Mary. She went to a different hospital and was prescribed Haldol again. Soon after, her doctor discontinued it, believing that she no longer seemed psychotic. Andrea was released soon after her admittance, but she returned in May of the same year. After this visit, her psychiatrist, Dr. Mohammed Saeed, told her to think positive thoughts. Andrea was once again discharged.

On June 20, 2001, put her obsessive thoughts into action and murdered her five children. She started with the youngest boys, and after drowning them in her bathtub, laid them in her bed. She then drowned Mary, who she left floating in the tub. Her oldest son, Noah, came in and asked what was wrong with Mary. Then he ran. However, Andrea soon caught up with him, and held him under the water next to Mary’s body until he was dead. She then left him floating in the tub and laid Mary in the arms of her brothers. Afterwards, she called the police. Then she called her husband, saying and repeating only two words: “It’s time.”

Trial

Andrea’s trial lasted for three weeks. She was convicted of capital murder on five counts. However, because of her psychotic behavior, they voted to keep her in prison for life instead of giving her the death penalty. Her reason for the murders was that the children “weren’t developing correctly.” She felt the need to punish herself for being a bad mother. She told forensic scientist Park Dietz that she wanted to protect her children from the torment of Satan, and on the occasion that she confessed to the jail psychiatrist, she explained further, “My children weren’t righteous. They stumbled because I was evil. The way I was raising them they could never be saved… They were doomed to perish in the fires of hell.” Andrea will be eligible for parole in the year 2041.


15 posted on 11/25/2010 8:13:46 AM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: ari-freedom

***straight out of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom***

Wher is Cary Grant, David Nivin and Douglas Fairbanks Jr when you need them?


16 posted on 11/25/2010 8:22:37 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: The Comedian

>>Kali is widely worshipped across India and has several forms<<

The title is a LIE! Nobody was stunned. Pissed because of interference maybe but definitely not stunned.


17 posted on 11/25/2010 8:36:00 AM PST by B4Ranch (I never met one Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism.)
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To: James C. Bennett
Yeah, you have a psychotic (diagnosis confirmed by medical intervention alleviating symptoms) killing her children.

And who is condemned roundly by everyone except gender feminists.

On the other hand, you have explicit sacrifice of children on the basis of theology.

tu quoque FAIL.

Cheers!

18 posted on 11/25/2010 9:52:20 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: James C. Bennett
You tell me. You're the Indian.

Cheers!

19 posted on 11/25/2010 9:53:04 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

FAIL? LOL, hardly. I left out a tid-bit about Andrea’s case, deliberately.

Mental illness, if that was the case with Andrea’s inspiration for killing her children, must be contagious, since her former room-mate, belonging to a similar religious organisation, committed the same crime:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dena_Schlosser

And,

Mothers who killed:

•Andrea Yates, 44, of Houston drowned her five kids in June 2001, believing she was protecting them from Satan. During her second trial in July 2006, a jury found her not guilty by reason of insanity, and the former nurse was ordered to stay in a state mental hospital.

•Lisa Ann Diaz, 38, drowned her daughters – ages 3 and 5 – in September 2005, wrapped them in a blanket and laid them on a bed in their Plano house. A jury found her not guilty by reason of insanity, and she was released from a West Texas state hospital in late 2006.

•Valeria Maxon, 34, of Mansfield drowned her 1-year-old son in the family’s hot tub in June 2006 because she thought she was a witch and her son was the Antichrist, according to court testimony. During her capital murder trial, the judge declared her legally insane and ordered her to receive treatment at the North Texas State Hospital in Vernon.

•Deanna Laney, 44, bludgeoned her three sons with stones, killing two and seriously injuring the other in 2003, believing that God was telling her to do it. At the end of her 2004 capital murder trial, Ms. Laney was found not guilty by reason of insanity. She was sent to a state mental hospital, where she remains.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/110808dnmetschlosser.18ca635cc.html

Oh, I forgot. You’d rather selectively use “mental illness” as a canard than look at all angles involved in all those cases.

Look up the meaning of ‘double standards’ on the way, too.


20 posted on 11/25/2010 12:39:59 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: grey_whiskers
You tell me. You're the Indian Australian.

Corrected.

A statistically insignificant anomaly of an incident where a particular person murders a child to appease a deity causes uproar within the same community he belongs to, and beyond. You don't know why, you claim?

I would've thought you'd have been capable of performing a mental process equivalent to adding 2 and 2, to arrive at the answer. Nonetheless, here's what the Gita says:

  Two stamps there are marked on all living men,
Divine and Undivine; I spake to thee
By what marks thou shouldst know the Heavenly Man,
Hear from me now of the Unheavenly!
 
  They comprehend not, the Unheavenly,
How souls go forth from Me; nor how they come
Back unto Me: nor is there Truth in these,
Nor purity, nor rule of Life. “This world
Hath not a Law, nor Order, nor a Lord,”
So say they: “nor hath risen up by Cause
Following on Cause, in perfect purposing,
But is none other than a House of Lust.”
And, this thing thinking, all those ruined ones—
Of little wit, dark-minded—give themselves
To evil deeds, the curses of their kind.
Surrendered to desires insatiable,
Full of deceitfulness, folly, and pride,
In blindness cleaving to their errors, caught
Into the sinful course, they trust this lie
As it were true—this lie which leads to death—
Finding in Pleasure all the good which is,
And crying “Here it finisheth!”
 
        Ensnared
In nooses of a hundred idle hopes,
Slaves to their passion and their wrath, they buy
Wealth with base deeds, to glut hot appetites;
“Thus much, to-day,” they say, “we gained! thereby
Such and such wish of heart shall have its fill;
And this is ours! and th’ other shall be ours!
To-day we slew a foe, and we will slay
Our other enemy to-morrow! Look!
Are we not lords? Make we not goodly cheer?
Is not our fortune famous, brave, and great?
Rich are we, proudly born! What other men
Live like to us? Kill, then, for sacrifice!
Cast largesse, and be merry!” So they speak
Darkened by ignorance; and so they fall—
Tossed to and fro with projects, tricked, and bound
In net of black delusion, lost in lusts
Down to foul Naraka. Conceited, fond,
Stubborn and proud, dead-drunken with the wine
Of wealth, and reckless, all their offerings
Have but a show of reverence, being not made
In piety of ancient faith. Thus vowed
To self-hood, force, insolence, feasting, wrath,
These My blasphemers, in the forms they wear
And in the forms they breed, my foemen are,
Hateful and hating; cruel, evil, vile,
Lowest and least of men, whom I cast down
Again, and yet again, at end of lives,
Into some devilish womb, whence—birth by birth—
The devilish wombs re-spawn them, all beguiled;
And, till they find and worship Me, sweet Prince!
Tread they that Nether Road.

- Bhagavad Gita, Ch: XVI, Lines: 34-80.
 

And whoso loveth Me cometh to Me.
Whoso shall offer Me in faith and love
A leaf, a flower, a fruit, water poured forth,
That offering I accept, lovingly made
With pious will. Whate’er thou doest, Prince!
Eating or sacrificing, giving gifts,
Praying or fasting, let it all be done
For Me, as Mine. So shalt thou free thyself
From Karmabandh, the chain which holdeth men
To good and evil issue, so shalt come
Safe unto Me—when thou art quit of flesh—
By faith and abdication joined to Me!
 
  I am alike for all! I know not hate,
I know not favor! What is made is Mine!
But them that worship Me with love, I love;
They are in Me, and I in them!


- Bhagavad Gita, Ch: IX, Lines: 101-116.

21 posted on 11/25/2010 1:01:46 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: James C. Bennett
Nice try, troll boy.

The antipsychotic drug put Yates's delusions in abeyance.

Cheers!

22 posted on 11/25/2010 1:06:39 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

LOL, sad that your bait failed?

Interesting hobby you have, on a holiday, nonetheless! Pathetic.


23 posted on 11/25/2010 1:17:03 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: grey_whiskers
"The antipsychotic drug put Yates's delusions in abeyance."

And the others too (look up), I bet. [/Sarcasm.]

24 posted on 11/25/2010 1:18:05 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: James C. Bennett

Do most people from Australia have such knowlege of the culture and belief systems of India?


25 posted on 11/25/2010 9:52:48 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Clintonfatigued

There are thousands of Australians who’ve lived and/or settled in India. Many who have ties going all the way back to the Raj.


26 posted on 11/25/2010 10:04:45 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: James C. Bennett

This crime is absolutely hideous. I’m at a loss for words. How widespread is it over there?


27 posted on 11/25/2010 10:06:02 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Rather sporadic.

I’ve read of reports where the local villagers descend upon the perpetrators and lynch them upon finding remains of children, well before the cops can get to them.

Almost all the time, these incidents happen in the hill-tribe areas of rural India which comprise of people who are officially listed as “adi vasis”, which in Sanskrit translates to “first inhabitants” - forest people. The locals don’t even consider them to be Hindus, but they are a protected class a-la Indian Reservations. They combine elements of mainstream Hinduism with their tribal culture.

If you’ve been following the news lately (especially on topics related to minerals/mining), a conflict is raging in these parts of India between the tribals and local mining agencies that want leasing permits to access their lands.


28 posted on 11/25/2010 10:20:40 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: RegulatorCountry; markomalley

In traditional, historical aka “real” Hinduism there is absolutely no such thing as human sacrifice. Notice that other Hindus in India are shocked and horrified. These people are evil and ignorant. They’re as close to real Hindus as voodoo practitioners are to real Christianity.


29 posted on 11/25/2010 10:28:36 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

You’ll probably like what I posted on #21.


30 posted on 11/25/2010 10:44:51 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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