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Electronic pickpocketing puts your credit cards at risk (TSA probably using this too)
wtsp.com ^ | 11/25/10 | Preston Rudie

Posted on 11/25/2010 9:32:27 AM PST by Evil Slayer

St. Petersburg, Florida - If you had any doubt that someone could steal your credit card numbers by simply walking past you, a few minutes with Walt Augustinowicz will probably chance your mind.

"Wow that is crazy. It kind of makes me nervous," said Reina Monsour after watching one of Augustinowicz's demonstrations.

"Technology is getting scarier and scarier," added Ivan Marik after watching another demonstration.

By simply using a credit card scanner attached to a battery pack, Augustinowicz shows how easy it is to grab sensitive information from an unsuspecting person.

(Excerpt) Read more at wtsp.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: creditcards; crime; rfid; scan
Identity Stronghold offers a protective sleve that blocks the signals. Wonder how many will be buying them after hearing about this?
1 posted on 11/25/2010 9:32:29 AM PST by Evil Slayer
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To: Evil Slayer

I know this will sound stupid but would tin foil work?


2 posted on 11/25/2010 9:36:03 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

>> ... would tin foil work?

Only if fashioned into a hat ;o)


3 posted on 11/25/2010 9:41:26 AM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

How about a duct tape wallet ?


4 posted on 11/25/2010 9:41:39 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom REMEMBER FREE REPUBLIC IN YOUR WILL. I DID)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

>>The aluminum foil did, however, help with preventing the card from transmitting. Without the aluminum foil, my card was detected by the reader at a distance of about a foot and a half. With the aluminum foil, the card was not detected until it was about two inches away.<<
http://www.omniscienceisbliss.org/rfid.html

Yes


5 posted on 11/25/2010 9:46:20 AM PST by B4Ranch (I never met one Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

yes


6 posted on 11/25/2010 9:55:18 AM PST by tired1 (Federalize the Fed)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Use wrinkled aluminum foil (shiny side out) to wrap your credit cards. It is not foolproof, and it does look a little silly, but it DOES work like another poster said.

Info on Identity Stronghold‘s card sleeve protection

7 posted on 11/25/2010 9:55:39 AM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: B4Ranch
I like this person's comment just below the article. lol

So if you are in a store and someone has one of these you can see them with it make them open it and if it is a scanner beat the crap out of them and shove it where the sun don't shine .. these should be illegal to have no one needs them unless you are a POS thief

8 posted on 11/25/2010 10:04:04 AM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: al baby
Problem with any sleeve protection. You have to, eventually, take it out of the sleeve before swiping it. That would make it vulnerable to be scanned. Really,if you think about it, there are so many other ways that we are being tracked, scanned, eavesdropped on by big brother as well as common criminals, it is impossible to to keep this from happening if the perp is determined to do it. Technology is great but it has some serious drawbacks when used by the bad guys.
9 posted on 11/25/2010 10:12:57 AM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Evil Slayer

As ‘seen on TV’ - a recent episode of “NCIS” used a device like this in the opening - a woman was gabbing CC numbers, burning a new one and headed out shopping....

So - if it is on TV - it must be really real, right?


10 posted on 11/25/2010 10:14:14 AM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: Evil Slayer

I assume you’re talking about RFID chips embedded in credit cards. That being the case, does anyone know which credit card companies are using the RFID chips? I would also think that if anyone had their RFID card compromised they would have a good case to be relieved of all responsibility if not advised of the chip.


11 posted on 11/25/2010 10:19:58 AM PST by RLM
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Someone casually walking through a busy mall could be scanning thousands of credit cards from strangers without victims even knowing until its too late.


12 posted on 11/25/2010 10:39:03 AM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: RLM
Per the article.....

"Probably 98% of the people have no idea that these (RFID) cards are in circulation and there is 100-million of them already out there now and in the next 2 years every single card is going to have it," Augustinowicz said.

So that being said, your credit card probably has one. If not, they are saying ALL will have one within the next 2 years. And, yes, the RFID chips are not just in credit cards. They have them in Debit cards and any cards used for ID like drivers license cards, passport cards and even in clothing, etc at department stores. The Orson Welles Big Brother age is here already.

13 posted on 11/25/2010 10:42:42 AM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: ASOC

My wife is a big fan of NCIS, and she had a hard time understanding this potential problem.

I will be showing her this article.


14 posted on 11/25/2010 11:03:47 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Evil Slayer

I had two cell phones cloned over a decade ago, that were cloned while we were driving and the phones were on but not being used.

Both times it happened at a busy entrance to an interstate.

I had noticed a ubitious white van parked off the side of the road both times, and I notified the cell phone provider after the second event. I never saw the van again.

The numbers were apparently sold to drug dealers and by the time we got home (in about 30 minutes), the provider had discontinued the service on one of the phones. Apparently some governmental agency wanted the phone to work for a couple of days. The guys were calling international providers, and the costs were tremendous. We didn’t have to pay.

The phone was the famous Motorola Flip Phone. Indestructible basically, but very cloneable.


15 posted on 11/25/2010 11:10:18 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Evil Slayer

RFID chips in credit cards is a really bad idea. It’s a stupid answer to a non-existant problem.


16 posted on 11/25/2010 11:34:17 AM PST by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: Evil Slayer

I looked through all my wallet cards and couldn’t see anything suggesting that they had an RFID. Is there any way to tell? Anyone?


17 posted on 11/25/2010 11:39:44 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: zeugma

It’s a way to track the populace by computer. I am confident that’s what is happening. That data most certainly would have a retail price.


18 posted on 11/25/2010 11:43:29 AM PST by B4Ranch (I have never met one, not one Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
I used to have an email address for wallets with micro-carbon fiber Faraday cage material sewn into the lining, but I lost it. Just do a dogpile search of Faraday Cages.
19 posted on 11/25/2010 11:48:08 AM PST by nomad
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To: Tunehead54
I just googled it and here are some videos and articles that should answer your question on how to tell if you have an RFID embedded in your cards, etc......

click

20 posted on 11/25/2010 11:49:01 AM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

For starters try http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/security/8cdd/ and use ‘Faraday cage wallets” http://www.dogpile.com as your search terms.


21 posted on 11/25/2010 11:52:48 AM PST by nomad
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To: Evil Slayer

Or just buy an RFID protected wallet,I hear they make women`s purses too. Try “Faraday cage wallets” as your search terms http://www.dogpile.com


22 posted on 11/25/2010 11:56:17 AM PST by nomad
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To: Grampa Dave
Wow!! I bought me a hand held scanner back in the early 90s to listen in on police dispatch calls for fun. Didn't realize that I could also listen in on my neighbors cordless phone conversations as well as cell phone conversations. They have since made it a law that all companies that sell scanners have to put a blocking mechanism on them for cell phones. Also, most people are using the more advanced cordless phones that have random frequencies that scanners can't pick up now days. It's kind of ironic that I can still listen in on police dispatch even today. You would think that they would have encrypted their frequencies so they couldn't be picked up by a simple scanner.
23 posted on 11/25/2010 12:12:42 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Evil Slayer
Thanks - I tried WikiAnswers unsuccessfully then got distracted. This link off your google search is helpful: RFID Credit Card Chip Extracted For Your Viewing Pleasure!

My Amex and two Visas (credit and debit) do seem to have RFIDs having hologram squares in the same place as the video. The Amex just has an Amex logo in the same place ...

Thanks for your help! ;-)

24 posted on 11/25/2010 1:02:56 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Evil Slayer
It has been a Federal crime since 1934 to misuse information overheard by monitoring non-broadcast radio .

I am concerned when everything related to government is secret and encoded.

25 posted on 11/25/2010 1:19:17 PM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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Ping


26 posted on 11/25/2010 3:01:08 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Conservative States of America has a nice ring to it.)
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To: nomad

One would think that RFID could be jammed with a really low power transmitter of some kind. If you had it on your person then the signal would only have to be strong enough to interfere with a signal that is about 12 inches from you person. In fact if it could be kept in your wallet then it would only have to jam signals for a couple of inches from your wallet. Just continuously transmit garbage RFID at a very low power?


27 posted on 11/25/2010 3:33:56 PM PST by Revel
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To: TribalPrincess2U

I had the same though, great minds run along the same track...:O)


28 posted on 11/25/2010 5:05:13 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Evil Slayer

Don’t know how to address several freepers at the same time so ...

THANKS to everyone who was so nice to answer my question on using tin foil.


29 posted on 11/25/2010 7:57:46 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: Evil Slayer

Good thing my cards have zero liablity. I’ll let the let the finance companies figure out how to combat it.


30 posted on 11/25/2010 11:13:11 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: Revel
If you could zero in on the frequency, it should work.Do RFIDs use many frequencies?I`ve heard a microwave oven will induce a power surge and fry the chip but that would negate the purpose of having one.I`d prefer a card with a magnetic swipe strip only.
31 posted on 11/27/2010 8:15:01 PM PST by nomad
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