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Bobby Jindal's Downside (Jindal as POTUS? Take a closer look at his record as Louisiana governor)
American Thinker ^ | 11/26/2010 | Tom Roberson

Posted on 11/26/2010 6:35:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal is busy promoting his new tome Leadership and Crisis with book tour stops all over the country. This latest tour comes on top of his previous speaking tours to raise campaign cash for himself and various Republican candidates around the country. The only place Governor Jindal has trouble visiting is his home state of Louisiana. The joke in Louisiana is that Bobby is known as a governor in 49 states.

Governor Jindal is intelligent and very well-educated, and he manages to look like a creditable leader during a crisis. In this he learned well from former Governor Kathleen Blanco's disastrous handling of the Hurricane Katrina aftermath. He can spout numerous statistics off the top of his head and make complicated situations understandable.

However, as we've learned from the current occupant of the White House, command of statistics and the ability to explain the complicated do not necessarily indicate that one is destined to be a great leader.

Louisiana's last budget was balanced with numerous accounting tricks, one-time funding sources, and massive cuts to health and higher education. Jindal has been criticized for pushing hard decisions down the road to avoid offending anyone in preparation for a presidential bid, and it is well-known in Louisiana that Jindal is preparing to run and campaigning across the country on trips funded by Louisiana taxpayers.

Louisiana is a populist state that tends to overspend in flush times and flail in lean times. In Louisiana, health and higher education are not constitutionally protected from budget cuts and are routinely savaged when the economy dives. To be fair, there is a great deal of waste in higher education that needs to be eliminated, and LSU professors are not helping their cause by threatening to unionize in a state where unions are not looked on favorably. Also, LSU System President Dr. John Lombardi, Louisiana's highest-paid state employee, recently refused to trim his salary for the good of the school and further exposed the hypocrisy in Louisiana higher education.

During Jindal's administration, Louisiana has added over 3,100 new employees, and its budget has increased from $12 billion in 2008 to $24 billion in 2010. The governor seems to think this surge in state government will somehow conquer the budget in the long run.

When it comes to cutting spending, the governor can't cut even his own travel budget. One of Governor Jindal's favorite Louisiana campaign tactics is local church attendance by helicopter in rural areas rarely visited by any governor.

Jindal's celebrated ethics legislation promoting transparency in Louisiana government has backfired (see also here): it has been revealed that enforcement powers were stripped from the Ethics Board, resulting in several resignations in protest, and Jindal has zealously guarded the records of the governor's office from the light of day. The law's most notable accomplishment has been to drive worthy citizens away from serving on state boards by requiring draconian disclosures of every conceivable financial detail and close association in a futile effort to prevent political corruption. Are you kidding? This is Louisiana!

Governor Jindal devotes a sizable portion of Leadership and Crisis to detailing Louisiana's natural beauty, recounting political anecdotes, and listing boilerplate conservative talking points without ever mentioning his plans to deal with the state's looming $1.5-billion budget shortfall or the numerous challenges faced by Louisiana as its graduates flee in search of opportunities the state can't provide.

Jindal doesn't seem to understand is that status quo governing is currently not in vogue. New Jersey Governor Chris Christie is talked about as presidential material precisely because of his willingness to shake up New Jersey's insular political culture without thought of higher office. Christie is willing to take on the special interests and make the hard choices New Jersey needs to survive, while Jindal is doing his best not to offend any powerful interests in Louisiana. This type of timid leadership is exactly what the Tea Parties are railing against.

Those promoting or considering Bobby Jindal as presidential material need to take a much closer look at his record as Louisiana governor. Jindal talks the talk, but he doesn't walk the walk.

Hat tip: C.B. Forgotston

Tom Roberson is an independent conservative holding finance and engineering degrees and doing his small part to save his country.



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1 posted on 11/26/2010 6:35:25 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess when the Palin bashers have a little free time, the go after Jindal.


2 posted on 11/26/2010 6:39:18 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Louisana’s last budget was balanced but it was with “tricks”? I can tell you right now I have a lot more faith in Bobby Jindal than I do Tom Roberson (who obviously writes his own bio line).


3 posted on 11/26/2010 6:41:14 AM PST by Artemis Webb (I support Alvin Greene as the Democrats next nominee for President of the United States!)
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To: SeekAndFind

He stinks on ice.


4 posted on 11/26/2010 6:41:41 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: central_va

At any rate, whenever I post something about Jindal, good or bad ( and I’ve posted about him many times in this forum), I also get the usual “He’s not a natural born citizen, therefore disqualified” argument.

Also, Unlike Sarah Palin, he has indicated many times, he’s not interested in being President.

He’s a potential candidate because people like him and what he stands for.

I am quite certain he is not on the table for 2012 ( he said so himself, many times ).


5 posted on 11/26/2010 6:42:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

He seemed to handle the oil spill well, standing up to Obama on stupid federal rules, but in general he seems wishy-washy and, as the article states: timid.

He’s definitely not my pick.

My list is short:

Palin
Christie
DeMint
Pence

There may be others, but those are the only 4 that strike me as believable right now and Christie, DeMint and Pence all have their problems (DeMint mainly that he seems to genuinely not be interested).

Which pretty much leaves Palin.

But definitely not Jindal. I don’t see myself supporting Jindal unless he somehow actually got the nomination... which I don’t see him getting.


6 posted on 11/26/2010 6:42:29 AM PST by samtheman
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To: ez

RE: He stinks on ice.

Who, the author or Bobby Jindal?


7 posted on 11/26/2010 6:43:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: samtheman

RE: Pence

I have not ever known a person who has gone directly from the House to the Presidency... does anyone know if we have such a precedent?


8 posted on 11/26/2010 6:44:41 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: samtheman
He seemed to handle the oil spill well, standing up to Obama on stupid federal rules, but in general he seems wishy-washy and, as the article states: timid.

That has always been my impression...however; he was on Beck's radio program the other day kicking twelve kinds of *ss...I couldn't believe it was the same Bobby Jindal. Of course; he was hawking a book, so who knows?

9 posted on 11/26/2010 6:44:59 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Artemis Webb

I know Tom Robertson and he’s a friend of mine. He knows whereof he speaks about Jindal.

Yes, he’s done a decent enough job as a supposed conservative here in Louisiana. But it wasn’t because Jindal has deep-down conservative convictions.

Jindal did the conservative thing because there were some folks - talk radio host Moon Griffon chief among them - who stood over him with a baseball bat and MADE him do it.


10 posted on 11/26/2010 6:47:49 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: SeekAndFind

I know. It’s a problem. Which is why he’s 4th on my list.

The only reason he’s on my list at all is because I believe that the times we live in are so extraordinary that anything is possible, even a House Rep going straight to the WH.

But it is a problem. You are right.


11 posted on 11/26/2010 6:48:08 AM PST by samtheman
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To: who knows what evil?

Do you have a link to that Beck segment? I’d like to listen to it.


12 posted on 11/26/2010 6:48:48 AM PST by samtheman
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To: SeekAndFind

traveling at our expense ,promoting himself instead of taking care of business at home

13 posted on 11/26/2010 6:49:06 AM PST by piroque (it is better to perish than to live as slaves.)
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To: SeekAndFind

At any rate..
Jindal is not qualified to be president.

Jindal is not interested because he knows he is not qualified.

Jindal is considered a candidate because peeps are ignorant of NBC.
Jindal is not on table because he said so many times, same as Christie.


14 posted on 11/26/2010 6:50:57 AM PST by biggredd1
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To: abb

Glad you know Tom Robinson and think well of him. I however could not care less or be less impressed.

As for Moon Griffin “making” Jindal do anything...I hardly doubt it. Can you honestly hear Bobby Jindal saying, “Oh Nos...I don’t want to do this but Moon Griffin is going to make me! I’m so scared of him!” Give me a freaking break.


15 posted on 11/26/2010 6:52:05 AM PST by Artemis Webb (I support Alvin Greene as the Democrats next nominee for President of the United States!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The RINOS have figured out that all they have to do is pretend to be conservatives, just like Romney. Rhetoric is not what makes a conservative, actions do. I’ll take Bachman over Palin any day. Too many people on this site have hormonal attractions to their candidates. That’s no better than t5he retards that voted for the oxygen thief in the white house Obimbo.


16 posted on 11/26/2010 6:52:25 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: SeekAndFind

Jindal, Palin, Christie ... they ALL scare the heck out of the left.

They want to see McCain running again (or someone like him) and will be voting in the Republican Primaries AGAIN to try and make that happen (again).

Stand up against them.
They are fewer and CAN be beaten.

Expose the left for what they are.


17 posted on 11/26/2010 6:52:42 AM PST by sawmill trash (We are definately a day closer to the end than we were yesterday)
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To: Artemis Webb

*Bump to the top*


18 posted on 11/26/2010 6:53:16 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: abb

And by the way if you know him and are good friends with him you might do him the consideration of spelling his name right.


19 posted on 11/26/2010 6:53:38 AM PST by Artemis Webb (I support Alvin Greene as the Democrats next nominee for President of the United States!)
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To: central_va
I guess when the Palin bashers have a little free time, the go after Jindal.

Only when they're taking a time-out from bashing Christie. This is becoming a pattern here. Take popular Republicans with some actual leadership skills and knock them down to promote some obscure candidate who can never win.

Sigh. This is going to be a long election season.

20 posted on 11/26/2010 6:55:19 AM PST by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: Artemis Webb

You believe what you want. I live here in Louisiana and have so for sixty years. I’m immersed in Louisiana politics every day as a working reporter.

Jindal IS NOT the real deal.

You have been warned.


21 posted on 11/26/2010 6:56:17 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: SeekAndFind
He’s not a natural born citizen

Well anyone can check his bio and see that he was born here of (legal) immigrant parents.

22 posted on 11/26/2010 6:56:47 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: SeekAndFind

President James Garfield:

U.S. House of Representatives March 4, 1863 – March 3, 1881

President of the United States on March 4, 1881


23 posted on 11/26/2010 6:57:16 AM PST by sitetest ( If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ever notice that so many who rag on Jindal, Palin, Rand Paul, Christine O’Donnell, et. al., call themselves “conservatives”—??

I think it’s the latest ploy to make sure some sure-fire loser like Mitt Romney ends up nominated.


24 posted on 11/26/2010 6:57:37 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: SeekAndFind
Louisiana's last budget was balanced with numerous accounting tricks, one-time funding sources, and massive cuts to health and higher education

Why do you cut health care and higher education?

How about because that is where the money is. In tough times I don't starve my kids while I make the payments on my Lamborghini - well upon second thought.

25 posted on 11/26/2010 6:58:50 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson
Well anyone can check his bio and see that he was born here of (legal) immigrant parents.

There are those who believe that for a person to be a natural born citizen then both parents must be citizens. Jindal's parents were not citizens when he was born.

26 posted on 11/26/2010 7:01:03 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: abb

I know Tom Robertson and he’s a friend of mine. He knows whereof he speaks about Jindal.

Yes, he’s done a decent enough job as a supposed conservative here in Louisiana. But it wasn’t because Jindal has deep-down conservative convictions.

Jindal did the conservative thing because there were some folks - talk radio host Moon Griffon chief among them - who stood over him with a baseball bat and MADE him do it.


Your “friend” needs to get a grip on what being a “conservative” is. Maybe he should go back and read Goldwater. To complain because a governor cut spending on education and health care and then call himself a conservative....

Look, you tell you bud-bud there that if budgets are EVER gonna be balanced health care and education will endure cuts.

Conservatives don’t COMPLAIN about cuts. They demand more.


27 posted on 11/26/2010 7:01:18 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s just save everyone the trouble and make a list of the top ten potential Republican presidental candidates and have an associated “truth file” so we can torpedo each and every one of them before the campaign even starts.

Hooray for Obama in 2012!


28 posted on 11/26/2010 7:01:31 AM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: SeekAndFind
During Jindal's administration, Louisiana has added over 3,100 new employees, and its budget has increased from $12 billion in 2008 to $24 billion in 2010.

I don't know all the details, but on its face that doesn't look like fiscal reponsibility to me....
29 posted on 11/26/2010 7:02:57 AM PST by GQuagmire (Hey now!)
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To: PaleoBob

As I said upthread, Jindal IS NOT the real deal. He is a Big-Government Republican.

You too have been warned.


30 posted on 11/26/2010 7:03:15 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: sitetest

Him, too

31 posted on 11/26/2010 7:04:02 AM PST by Zakeet (Like the wise Wee Wee said, "We can't be broke ... we still have checks in the checkbook.")
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To: SeekAndFind
I have not ever known a person who has gone directly from the House to the Presidency...

We see with the current occupant of the Whitehouse that someone with only legislative experience isn't up to the challenges of managing the Executive Branch on a daily basis. Whether or not someone has ascended from the House to the Presidency doesn't bother me as much as making sure whoever does become the next POTUS has actual, hands on management experience, preferably running a business and making a payroll, not just experience compromising in a legislative atmosphere. We need someone who is decisive and can think on their feet. Not someone who will defer to a committee or a "blue ribbon commission" to avoid responsibility for their actions, as is all too typical for people who come from the Legislative Branch of gubmint.

32 posted on 11/26/2010 7:04:53 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: SeekAndFind

What is going on?

I keep reading articles by people who are supposedly conservatives knocking down potential conservative Presidential candidates one-by-one.

This morning there is no shortage of Sarah Palin criticism. I heard Newt Gingrich slammed this morning. Now Bobby Jindahl.

What gives? I didn’t think I was reading a left wing forum here.


33 posted on 11/26/2010 7:06:26 AM PST by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: Zakeet; SeekAndFind
Dear Zakeet,

Although you're correct that the highest office held by President Lincoln prior to his election to the presidency was that of US Representative, the previous poster had phrased the criterion thusly:

“I have not ever known a person who has gone directly from the House to the Presidency... does anyone know if we have such a precedent?”

Mr. Lincoln wasn't serving in the House of Representatives at the time of his election to the presidency.


sitetest

34 posted on 11/26/2010 7:08:09 AM PST by sitetest ( If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: RoadTest

It’s the Free Republic way. It happened in 2000, it happened in 2008, and it will happen again in 2012. Every single Republican candidate will be torpedoed until we’re left with a sad sack like McCain with no chance of winning.


35 posted on 11/26/2010 7:08:38 AM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: samtheman
The GOP Elites are pushing Romney as the it's his turn guy.

If he fails early (like Guiliani in 08), look for Jeb Bush to be their go to candidate because Gingrich has too much old baggage.

They already think of the Tea Party like they have the conservative wing in the past:

36 posted on 11/26/2010 7:10:00 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: AndyJackson

Legal immigrants are not citizens until naturalized.
When Jindal was born his parents were not yet naturalized.

Therefore, he is not natural born. He is native born, because he was born in the United States.

One unnaturally born President is already one too many.


37 posted on 11/26/2010 7:10:53 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: flintsilver7
...we’re left with a sad sack like McCain with no chance of winning.

It was McCain's turn. The Republicans have a long history of nominating "the next guy in line". Nixon, Ford, GHW Bush, Dole and McCain are all examples. The Republican establishment doesn't want a Conservative at the top. The only real stand out in the past 40 years is Ronald Reagan. The country clubbers couldn't stop him, but they sure tried, didn't they?

38 posted on 11/26/2010 7:14:39 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: samtheman

What are the “problems” with Pence?


39 posted on 11/26/2010 7:21:38 AM PST by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Thermalseeker

They will always try, I believe, and unfortunately they are aided by people who push their candidates. There are many of those here. In 2008, in my mind the two best candidates from an ideological perspective were Duncan Hunter and Fred Thompson. Hunter had little to no name recognition and was not the best debater. Fred Thompson would’ve been great, I think, but the fact of the matter is the guy just didn’t want the job. He had to be pushed into it. We were really left with Giuliani, Huckabee, Romney, and McCain. All were flawed candidates, but we ended up with the absolute worst of the bunch.

It will probably happen again in 2012. I wish it weren’t true. The country-club types will probably want to nominate the “his turn” guy, which I think is Romney. There are a bunch of candidates that are much better, of course, but people here who dislike Jindal (abb in particular has been complaining about him for years) will try their best to torpedo him before hand. Pence, Allen, and whoever else might be running will inevitably have dozens of detractors here who will ultimately help Romney.


40 posted on 11/26/2010 7:22:38 AM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: RoadTest

RE: I keep reading articles by people who are supposedly conservatives knocking down potential conservative Presidential candidates one-by-one.


A forum like this one is supposed to be an OPEN discussion on the strengths and weaknesses of a candidate in terms of who can be the best and most conservative President.

My suggestion to all is this — whenever the weaknesses of a candidate are presented, LET’s NOT LOOK AT IT AS AN ATTEMPT TO BASH or DEMEAN or DIMINISH the person.

It is an attempt to look at the pros and cons of a candidate before the primaries.

Too often, this forum devolves into personal attacks against a poster for posting a topic which is clearly meant for discussion and exchange.

No one is perfect and experienced in all aspect of governance or policy, and there is always room for improvement. If Ronald Reagan had to learn from past mistakes.

In the end, we all know who we will NOT vote for and that is the man sitting in the White House.


41 posted on 11/26/2010 7:23:37 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: RoadTest

It is a form of vetting, which the MSM certainly failed to do in 2008 for the Dem candidate.

I posted early on in the 2008 cycle that Fred Thompson was McCain-light and had helped write the Campaign Reform Bill. I got skewered, until others started seeing weaknesses in the Thompson campaign. Even FR was gung-ho pro-Thompson. I posted I thought it strange Guiliana used his cancer as a reason not to face Hillary Clinton for the Senate, while John Kerry, who had the same kind of cancer, mounted a presidential candidacy that almost gave him the White House.

Bandwagon candidates should be vetted substantially. With the advent of the Internet, we can know who they actually are -- over and above their public relations persona -- and what they actually believe. But, we still have the problem of many voters to vote for the same -- like the suddenly converted I saw the light, so I am now a conservative again McCain in AZ.

Vet them! Knock at them. See what their weaknesses are. Check their baggage and verify their baggage claims. It is better to do it early and weed out the undesirables early.


42 posted on 11/26/2010 7:26:05 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: SeekAndFind

G. Ford


43 posted on 11/26/2010 7:26:56 AM PST by tayper (Granny told me, Saying it don't make it so)
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To: SeekAndFind
In the end, we all know who we will NOT vote for and that is the man sitting in the White House

I've voted for my last RINO. If this means sitting out the election. I will. I will vote against Webb in VA Senate but leave the top of the ticket blank. So keep on a bashing.

44 posted on 11/26/2010 7:28:19 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: samtheman
Click here for the link. Scroll down and activate the audio/video link about a third of the way down thru the transcript. You might have to suffer thru a 'Goldline' ad first...
45 posted on 11/26/2010 7:28:57 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: tayper

RE: G. Ford

Ford became President, not by election, but by accident of constitutional succession.

I’d have considered him as a recent precedent had he won through a presidential election.


46 posted on 11/26/2010 7:29:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Thermalseeker
The only real stand out in the past 40 years is Ronald Reagan.

And he only got the GOP 'nod' because he selected Bush from the GOP elite column as his VP.


47 posted on 11/26/2010 7:30:08 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Running On Empty
What are the “problems” with Pence?

He has made noise that he intends to run for governor. That, supposedly, was the reason he stepped down from his leadership position in the House GOP.
48 posted on 11/26/2010 7:31:45 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
Vet them! Knock at them. See what their weaknesses are. Check their baggage and verify their baggage claims. It is better to do it early and weed out the undesirables early.

JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ. Is there something we DON'T know about Sarah Palin for God's sake? Hell, I know more about her than Barry Hawaii.

She is the most vetted person I have ever seen.

49 posted on 11/26/2010 7:32:22 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Oops...this is a ‘truncated’ version to advertise the ‘extreme’ side of his website. Too bad, because the part where Jindal gets into the oil spill is the best part...at least the transcript is there, but you can’t hear the anger in Jindal’s voice.


50 posted on 11/26/2010 7:34:30 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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