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Thousands of Ranches Abandoned in Northern Mexico Due to Violence
Agencia EFE [Spain] ^ | 11/26/10 | Staff

Posted on 11/26/2010 11:15:11 AM PST by Nachum

Thousands of Ranches Abandoned in Northern Mexico Due to Violence

MEXICO CITY – Thousands of ranches have been abandoned in the northeastern Mexican state of Tamaulipas by owners who do not want to end up like Alejo Garza, a rancher who died defending his property from a drug cartel.

Garza, considered by a hero by many in the region, refused to hand over his property to a drug cartel, which gave him 24 hours to leave his property.

The 77-year-old rancher barricaded himself inside his house and took on 30 cartel gunmen, killing four of them and seriously wounding two others before being slain.

The drug cartels, which have been engaged in a turf war since the beginning of this year, take over ranches and use them as bases, a Tamaulipas Attorney General’s Office source told Efe on condition of anonymity.

(Excerpt) Read more at laht.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: abandoned; aliens; drugcartels; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; laststand; mexico; ranches; tamaulipas; thousands; wod

1 posted on 11/26/2010 11:15:13 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

But there’s no reason to put the military on the border.


2 posted on 11/26/2010 11:16:36 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: Nachum

This is coming here next,Obama will have us just retreat and leave the place to invading animals.


3 posted on 11/26/2010 11:17:22 AM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Nachum

4 posted on 11/26/2010 11:22:12 AM PST by The Duke
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To: Nachum

Mexico just came north...


5 posted on 11/26/2010 11:24:10 AM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: Nachum

I have a friend that experienced this exact thing. He’s a legal U.S. citizen but his family owned a ranch in northern Mexico. The killers came in and murdered the mayor of the little town and burned down the family ranch. He had a few prized horses that he was able to get back and bring to Arizona. The family lost everything else. Unfortunately for him and the rest of Arizona, the commie lowlifes in Washington, Eric Holder et. al, see this kind of crap as America’s future and are willing to “absorb” these atrocities as long as they aren’t occurring in their beloved District of Corruption. Talk about an “out of touch” bunch of maggots. This regime is a disgrace.


6 posted on 11/26/2010 11:26:24 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't touch my junk!!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Maybe we can send down millions of squatters to take over northern mexico


7 posted on 11/26/2010 11:28:28 AM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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Maybe we can send down millions of squatters to take over northern mexico


8 posted on 11/26/2010 11:28:45 AM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Nachum
Garza's story was pretty amazing.

When the cartel gave him 24 hours to get out, he sent his ranch workers away and set up his collection of hunting rifles and handguns at doors and widows of his house. Since it's illegal for most in Mexico to own weapons, this was doubtless a lifetime collection (he was 77 years old).

When the cartel arrived and ordered him out, he answered with gunfire.

They had grenades and automatic weapons, but that old man with his hunting rifles and handguns killed four and wounded two and sent the others running.

He died, but if they take over the ranch, they paid in blood. It's a shame more of the people of Mexico don't have the means to defend themselves, and that their government is so ineffective at defending them.

We need military on our border, and I'm not so sure that it won't take military across the border to end this situation, before it becomes as bad on this side as it is on the other side.

9 posted on 11/26/2010 11:28:53 AM PST by susannah59
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To: Dallas59
Guess who's coming to dinner?


10 posted on 11/26/2010 11:29:36 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: dsrtsage
Maybe we can send down millions of squatters to take over northern mexico

...doing the jobs Americans won't do.

11 posted on 11/26/2010 11:32:53 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

link to the violence....
very graphic (bodies no heads)(floating heads in an ice chest) but they tell the facts and they are scary

some articles imply muslim terrorists are involved

scary.......

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/


12 posted on 11/26/2010 11:43:42 AM PST by freedommom
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To: freedommom

Guns and ammunition prices in Arizona are skyrocketing. So are sales.


13 posted on 11/26/2010 11:47:03 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't touch my junk!!!)
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To: Nachum

I understand, what is not being reported for the most part, is thousands of Mexicans are fleeing into southern Texas...And it’s not being reported as they don’t want to encourage more to do the same...


14 posted on 11/26/2010 11:50:14 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: Nachum

I hope and pray that when my time comes, that I can go like this MAN. Not quietly into the night.


15 posted on 11/26/2010 11:51:59 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: susannah59
"We need military on our border, and I'm not so sure that it won't take military across the border to end this situation, before it becomes as bad on this side as it is on the other side."

I agree that we need the military on the border, but it will never "become as bad on this side as it is on the other", because the militia will act. They might be called "vigilantes" when they do it, but unlike Mexico, we "do" have the Second Amendment and an armed citizenry.

16 posted on 11/26/2010 11:53:35 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: dsrtsage
Maybe we can send down millions of squatters to take over northern mexico

Yes, preferably of the same sort as used to advertise their services in the back pages of Soldier of Fortune magazine.

17 posted on 11/26/2010 11:54:30 AM PST by Charles Martel ("Oh, Bother", said Pooh... as he chambered another round.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

with the fascist,America hating narcissist as our PINO, with North Korea attacking South Korea, and with our economy as well as many other nations in shambles as well, its a terrifying vision having these roving bands of animals on our southern border...at the first hint of trouble, they will flood our country and invade every town, city, farm,etc....it truely is a time to prepare....


18 posted on 11/26/2010 11:59:01 AM PST by cherry
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To: ShadowAce

Doing the job Mexicans won’t do.


19 posted on 11/26/2010 12:23:46 PM PST by certrtwngnut
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To: dragnet2

Yep, Mexican citizens are fleeing the border.

http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_15100142

“Mexico 2010 census effort a daunting task amid drug violence”

By Adriana Gómez Licón \ El Paso Times
Posted: 05/17/2010 12:00:00 AM MDT

“Juárez’s city planning department said about 110,000 houses have been abandoned in the past year. With no mail form, census workers need to knock on doors numerous times to ensure houses are indeed abandoned. “


20 posted on 11/26/2010 1:16:24 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: freedommom

the people also continue to keep the same people in office like John McCain who was all about amnesty! Where are the political leaders who give a damn? Bush had 8 years and did nothing, at least enough to make a difference. Of course Obama is all about doing nothing because he wants the votes, the whole political system in this country is soooo corrupt. The all disgust me.


21 posted on 11/26/2010 1:32:46 PM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Nachum

The more things change, the more they stay the same. The last time this happened, Mangas Coloradus was leading the Apaches south, and the Comanches and Kiowa were depopulating several Mexican states. A good read on that is “War of a Thousand Deserts”.


22 posted on 11/26/2010 1:35:49 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“This regime is a disgrace.”

They’re way too busy playing basketball and doing ‘shoutouts’ to worry about little things like North Korea, drug cartels, unemployment or terrorists.


23 posted on 11/26/2010 1:39:04 PM PST by panaxanax (IMPEACH THE MUSLIM MARXIST....NOW!!!)
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To: PzLdr

Looked at a review of that book and there was an interesting note. It said that the factionalism created by the abandonment of the Indians of their towns made it easier for the US armed forces to invade.

So if history is truly repeating itself, then the next step is an invasion into these territories by the US armed forces...


24 posted on 11/26/2010 1:45:47 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
Anybody feel like going to visit a "deer lease" in northern Mexico?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

25 posted on 11/26/2010 1:54:37 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: Nachum

Mexico is reverting back to paganism, to pre-Colombian times when the bloody drenched Aztecs, the blood drenched Mayans and thousands of other blood drenched pagan tribes fought with each other and human sacrifice was the law of the land. My obvious solution is to build an impenetrable fence, to militarize the border and have as little to do with that godforsaken place

I curse the traitors that got us into NAFTA. That’s when illegal immigration really took off


26 posted on 11/26/2010 2:02:29 PM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: The Comedian

I’ll wait for the carbine version to come out.


27 posted on 11/26/2010 2:53:44 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
I’ll wait for the carbine version to come out.

Serious muzzle flash issues.

And you lose enough muzzle velocity to make penetrating an Abrams questionable.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

28 posted on 11/26/2010 3:09:09 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: The Comedian
And you lose enough muzzle velocity to make penetrating an Abrams questionable

That's true, I would want to loose my armor penetration ability. They make that moose in 20mm yet?

29 posted on 11/26/2010 3:12:48 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
They make that moose in 20mm yet?

Only as a custom re-bore job using a breeder-reactor-powered cutting laser and a D9-powered Dremel tool.

I think the waiting list is a couple of years long. And you have to pay in gold bullion.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

30 posted on 11/26/2010 3:49:34 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: The Comedian
Only as a custom re-bore job using a breeder-reactor-powered cutting laser and a D9-powered Dremel tool.

20 mm ammo is so much more "interesting" that 50 cal..

31 posted on 11/26/2010 3:58:42 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: The Comedian

WWII Jap Army 20 mm rifle. Hmmm.......

32 posted on 11/26/2010 4:05:31 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Wow. I'd nuke a Jap city to get one of those.

Again.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

33 posted on 11/26/2010 4:16:11 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: The Comedian

With a modified muzzle brake, the carbine version doesn't even require the the normal crew of three needed to carry the rifle version.

34 posted on 11/26/2010 4:26:39 PM PST by usmcobra (.Islam: providing Live Targets for United States Marines since 1786!)
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To: Nachum; tuffydoodle; secondamendmentkid; re_nortex; Lorianne; Wage Slave; HushTX; ...

Ping!


35 posted on 11/26/2010 6:52:37 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: UCANSEE2

BWhahahahahah!! I love that pic. Every time i see it I think about the Frito Bandido erasers that you could get when i was a kid.

If a kid showed up at school today with a Frito Bandido eraser, he would be expelled for “hate speech”.
And then probably put in foster care by CPS.


36 posted on 11/26/2010 7:30:48 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: dennisw

You are exactly right.


37 posted on 11/26/2010 7:44:47 PM PST by Ladycalif ("If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus)
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To: Ladycalif

You know what the score is but for anyone who wants to learn more about the paganism and massive human sacrifice that carries over to the Mexico of today (after being suppressed for centuries) just read Hugh Thomas’ “The Conquest of Mexico”. This lays out what the conquistadors encountered with the natives


38 posted on 11/27/2010 6:18:18 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: Nachum

What a brave man. Old Mexico was pretty cool, it’s the young mexico with illegals,gangs and drugs that sucks.


39 posted on 11/27/2010 8:38:48 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: Nachum

SO WHAT, Why does everyone here keep complaining about the southern border with Mexico, saying things like “we need the military on the border”?? Absolutely ridiculous, WE CAN NEVER CLOSE THE BORDER WITH MEXICO, AND NEVER WILL.. Got it, We cannot have a 300 Billion dollar a year War on Drugs without DRUGS, get over it. We need the free flow of DRUGS across the Border, 2/3 of ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES DEPEND on it, 2/3 of our Judicial System depends on it, not to mention the hundreds of Prisons,Probation Depts,Counseling Programs,.... We are talking about Hundreds of Thousands of Government Employees very professions. Get Over it, WE NEED THE WAR ON DRUGS more than anything else. Especially when it also gives us more power over you little people.

Ruling Class wannabe.?


40 posted on 11/29/2010 6:00:52 AM PST by eyeamok
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