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Rove: Palin tour in Iowa 'smart,' but she has to reach outside GOP ranks
The Hill ^ | November 26, 2010 | Bridget Johnson

Posted on 11/27/2010 4:00:52 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

GOP strategist Karl Rove doesn't think Sarah Palin's reality show will earn her any points for a presidential run, but said Friday that putting three of her 16 book tour stops in Iowa is "a smart thing to do."

Palin is hitting the road, including in the early presidential state, to promote her new book "America By Heart: Reflections on Family, Faith and Flag."

"It gives her an excuse to be there as something other than a candidate, which is really important," Rove said on Fox News.

"That's a pretty smart move if you're thinking about running for president," he added.

As there's no love lost between the former Alaska governor and President George W. Bush's onetime senior adviser, Rove went on to say that Palin had difficultly expanding beyond a "paint-me-red Republican."

"She's got a problem with independents and a problem with Democrats, and over the course of the next year, like all of the Republican candidates, she's got to demonstrate that she has an ability to unify the Republicans and reach outside the Republican ranks," Rove said.

"I mean, in 1980 this was a key test for President Reagan when he ran for the presidential nomination and he demonstrated he can unify the party and that he had a special appeal outside the Republican Party's so-called Reagan Democrats," he added, stressing that Republicans want to win in 2012 and want a candidate who can draw voters from outside the party.


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Rove's advice reminds me of a home seller whose marketing skills leave him chasing the market, while Palin seems to be cruising along with her finger (heart) firmly fixed on the pulse of voters.
1 posted on 11/27/2010 4:00:59 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m an independent and I will vote for Sarah Palin!

I don’t believe that Palin is weak among our kind.

To Karl Rove, who funded the four most recent polls? The RinoS?


2 posted on 11/27/2010 4:08:13 AM PST by convertedtoreason ( Nature tells us to take a LIBERTARIAN CONSERVATIVE stance)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“I mean, in 1980 this was a key test for President Reagan when he ran for the presidential nomination and he demonstrated he can unify the party and that he had a special appeal outside the Republican Party’s so-called Reagan Democrats,” he added, stressing that Republicans want to win in 2012 and want a candidate who can draw voters from outside the party.”

I think Palin is rattling Tokyo Rove. These comments make no sense (Reagan Democrats are outside the Party dipslit)...then he goes on to state the obvious (Repubs want to win in 12).

wow, what analysis.


3 posted on 11/27/2010 4:09:20 AM PST by rbmillerjr (I will not, under any circumstances, vote for Mitt Romney....none.)
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To: convertedtoreason
I’m an independent and I will vote for Sarah Palin!

X2

4 posted on 11/27/2010 4:11:14 AM PST by JaguarXKE (RINOs be gone!)
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To: rbmillerjr

The only way ANY of these liberals (yes, YOU, Karl Rove!) can get ANY attention is to talk about Palin or the Tea Party.


5 posted on 11/27/2010 4:11:28 AM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: rbmillerjr

But don’t forget, he’s the designated political genius.


6 posted on 11/27/2010 4:12:07 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Indeed. To get the nomination, a GOP hopeful must appeal to the base. And here Rove is prattling on about Democrats and independents.

Rove just talks too much and is way overexposed.


7 posted on 11/27/2010 4:14:10 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rove was responsible for our 2006 and 2008 lost. When expedience trumps principal.


8 posted on 11/27/2010 4:18:21 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"Go Mitt. Go Mitt. Go Mitt.
"Rove is pushing Romney so aggressively some folks are beginning to wonder what's going on," grumbled one veteran Republican strategist."


"Rove has made no secret of his support for Romney as McCain's VP. "

9 posted on 11/27/2010 4:22:16 AM PST by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: convertedtoreason

You just gotta wonder who Karl is listening to.

I think Sarah Palin’s great charm is that she strikes a cord with independents and, yes, even democrats of reasonable persuasion.

Karl is blinded by some undisclosed prejudice and he better just shut up until he reconfigures the political landscape.


10 posted on 11/27/2010 4:27:32 AM PST by plangent
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And so far ahead of Rove he needs nitrous oxide to catch up!


11 posted on 11/27/2010 4:27:53 AM PST by MestaMachine (Aut viam inveniam aut faciam - I will either find a way or make one)
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To: 4rcane

al=le


12 posted on 11/27/2010 4:28:46 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“I mean, in 1980 this was a key test for President Reagan when he ran for the presidential nomination and he demonstrated he can unify the party and that he had a special appeal outside the Republican Party’s so-called Reagan Democrats,” he added, stressing that Republicans want to win in 2012 and want a candidate who can draw voters from outside the party.
***Rove has it all backwards.

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I’m a big tent republican.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts?page=6245#6245
Here’s an analogy to work with. Take a small box and fill it with some rocks. Then add some rice, filling it to the top. Now take all the same stuff, but in a different order. Put in the rice first, then add the rocks. What you’ll find is that if you put in the big stuff first, the small stuff will fit around it. But if you put in the small stuff first, the big stuff won’t have room. The republican tent is the box. The Big issues are the socon issues, to be put in first. The little issues are things that can be accommodated around the bigger stuff. A candidate who tries to focus on the smaller issues first and leave out the bigger issues has no way of getting all of us into the tent. He splits the party. The candidate who gets the big stuff right and as much of the little stuff that will fit, he can fit more into the tent. We’re often amazed at how much rice can keep fitting in. Rudy Giuliani flunks some of the big issues, and on some of the little issues it looks to me like anyone else’s rice would do just as well. All that remains for us to agree on is which are the bedrock principles and which are not. Why would there be so much invective aimed at rudy from the right? Because there are some bedrock principles that he is leaving out. Bad move. I see rudybot postings all the time saying that they would vote for Hunter, and I see socon postings that say they would not vote for rudy. That’s a BIG indicator of a few bedrock principles that are being left outside the tent in order to let in some rice.

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13 posted on 11/27/2010 4:38:55 AM PST by Kevmo (Has Obama resigned yet?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He’s actually right.

Palin is going to be caracatured like Buchanan if she doesn’t start reaching out to the middle. Her image is too far right and too polarizing.

All MR and MRS America want is a sane right of center pol they can trust. Reagan showed he wasn’t an extremist so America voted for him and he accomplished a lot.


14 posted on 11/27/2010 4:42:21 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (God humbles and (if need be) destroys false idols. Be patient, folks...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

From the article:
“She’s got a problem with independents and a problem with Democrats, and over the course of the next year, like all of the Republican candidates, she’s got to demonstrate that she has an ability to unify the Republicans and reach outside the Republican ranks,” Rove said.

Uh, yep...and I’m tickled that Sarah has a problem with DhimmiRats. Apart from that, I’ve been hearing Rove’s claptrap about uniting the Pubbies for some time, now. I call BS! The pubbies must be willing to be united, first. And, right now that doesn’t look possible. As long as the elitists from inside the vacuum of the beltway are running the party, Sarah is best positioned right where she is...talking to the people, not the politico’s.

Rove’s mental meanderings are beginning to wear thin.


15 posted on 11/27/2010 4:45:33 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: 4rcane

Rove was responsible for our 2006 and 2008 lost.
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I disagree. Bush refused to defend himself, his policies,and his party. He told O’Rielly he was keeping the “office of the President” above the fray.

This is how blue-bloods think.
They protect their position by not rocking the boat, so to speak. The bush disciples need to be replaced. imho


16 posted on 11/27/2010 4:48:02 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (God humbles and (if need be) destroys false idols. Be patient, folks...)
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To: Finalapproach29er

And she’s doing that. Her show on TLC, her books, and her appearances on DTWS are all designed to help redefine her. It will get harder for the left to caricature her after Mr. and Mrs. Middle of America (who really only pays attention the last two months of the election) have seen her on TV behaving no difference than they do.


17 posted on 11/27/2010 4:49:04 AM PST by carton253 (Ask me about The Stainless Banner - a free e-zine dedicated to the armies of the Confederacy.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

When leftist outlets start hanging on your every word,

we know,

we’ve been fooled again.


18 posted on 11/27/2010 4:59:06 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Why does anyone care what Carl Rove might have to say?

ML/NJ

19 posted on 11/27/2010 5:05:13 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Who is Carl(sp intentional) Rove and why should we listen to him?


20 posted on 11/27/2010 5:05:53 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Finalapproach29er
Palin is going to be caracatured like Buchanan if she doesn’t start reaching out to the middle. Her image is too far right and too polarizing. All MR and MRS America want is a sane right of center pol they can trust. Reagan showed he wasn’t an extremist so America voted for him and he accomplished a lot.

You've been listening and watching the anti-middle America msm, I fear. Mainstream, bedrock, average Americans don't see her as far right or extreme or insane or untrustworthy. Actually, they see her as speaking to what must be replaced for our country to survive, thrive and prosper. Voters are moving to her. She needs to stay right where she is.

21 posted on 11/27/2010 5:06:52 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There is such a strange contrast of Rove in 11/10 and the years of Rove being falsely accused by the Muppet masters of Joe Wilson and his gal Val....

Makes me wonder whose toes did Rove crush to receive such audacious accusations, given it was known who the 'talkers' were at the time.

22 posted on 11/27/2010 5:07:06 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rove What are your political leanings. seems in DC - Odumbo does not invite you to any parties.

Rove:
You can have Romney, he is too socialist for me.
You can have Huckabee, he is too liberal for me.
You can have Pawlenty, he is not running, as of yet.
You can have Jindahl, he is not running, as of yet.
You can have Barbour, he is not running as of yet.
You can Gingrich too, as he is has been, his dumping his first wife when she had cancer is an indication what he would do to the country, it gets tough and he strives to dump the country.

Rove you love Obama so much you must be his boy toy.

The truth comes out Rove has a problem, he does not like women. Rove is more fearful that Palin will not invite him to any functions.

Rove go away already, how did you help your Rino friend Bush.

In America we want no more Rino’s they are on the endangered political species list. be careful, there is a target on your backside and somebody soon will give you a swift boot to your backside.


23 posted on 11/27/2010 5:11:08 AM PST by hondact200 ( Obama is Nuckin Futs!!! Obama has the Lead Touch unlike the Midas Touch of Gold)
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To: rbmillerjr
I think Palin is rattling Tokyo Rove. These comments make no sense (Reagan Democrats are outside the Party dipslit)...then he goes on to state the obvious (Repubs want to win in 12).

Yes, it must be difficult for an "architect" to discover he has been planning shacks and tree houses, while some upstart woman is generating plans for the future.

Igett the sense that as soon as Rove figures out what Palin is up to, he immediately goes public with it and cadges it as advice. When he misreads her intentions, he throws a hissy and smears her instead.

24 posted on 11/27/2010 5:13:29 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Just mythoughts

Must have something to do with how the media elevated him (while insulting G.W. Bush) by calling him “Bush’s brain.” Watching Mr. Rove’s recent performance on matters, will only serve to elevate Bush, as it now appears (without much doubt) the president was using his own brain.


25 posted on 11/27/2010 5:14:28 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I don’t want to hear anything that comes from fat Rove’s ugly piehole. Fox News: when Rove appears on one of your shows, I immediately fast forward or turn the channel. Lose the loser.


26 posted on 11/27/2010 5:18:22 AM PST by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
...unify the Republicans and reach outside the Republican ranks...

It is because of RINOs like Rove that I am outside the Republican ranks. So she IS reaching outside the party to people like me.

27 posted on 11/27/2010 5:19:20 AM PST by Never on my watch (It is NOT OK for a government stranger to touch a child's private parts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Maybe Sarah could buy 8 hours of primetime TV and introduce herself to America, one hour per week. It could be shot in Alaska and be family-friendly show.

Would that be a good idea, Karl?


28 posted on 11/27/2010 5:22:27 AM PST by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: Nepeta; PowerPro; Irish Eyes; Calif4Palin; Jrabbit; t-dude; bgill; OwenKellogg; maggief; ...

((((PING))))

Rove is more interested in appeasing Rats and Indies that Republicans.


29 posted on 11/27/2010 5:22:48 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: plangent
You just gotta wonder who Karl is listening to.

"Bend over Karl! Soros says it's time to install the RomneyTron 2012® implant!"


30 posted on 11/27/2010 5:28:38 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
Maybe Sarah could buy 8 hours of primetime TV and introduce herself to America, one hour per week. It could be shot in Alaska and be family-friendly show.

DING! DING! DING!

We have a winner!!!!

31 posted on 11/27/2010 5:31:36 AM PST by fedupjohn ("They act like permanent residents of a unicorn ranch in fantasy land"....Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Finalapproach29er
Her image is too far right and too polarizing.

Is it hard for you to see past that RINO beak growing out of your nose?

32 posted on 11/27/2010 5:33:26 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Finalapproach29er
Her image is too far right and too polarizing.

Is it hard for you to see past that RINO beak growing out of your nose?

33 posted on 11/27/2010 5:33:33 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
Maybe Sarah could buy 8 hours of primetime TV and introduce herself to America, one hour per week. It could be shot in Alaska and be family-friendly show.

Would that be a good idea, Karl?

I am sure Rove is disappointed that the TV program isn't reaching out drug dealers, illegal aliens, beltway cocktail sippers, Hollywood communists and professional politicians who make up most of the democrat base.

Rove, as a Republican, should be concerned that his party needs to reach out to Sarah.

34 posted on 11/27/2010 5:33:47 AM PST by Never on my watch (It is NOT OK for a government stranger to touch a child's private parts)
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To: Never on my watch

Rove is wrong again. Reagan didn’t reach out to the Independents and “Reagan Democrats”, they came to him. The economic, military and social situation under Carter became so bad that they gravitated right over to Reagan. The same will happen all over again in 2012.


35 posted on 11/27/2010 5:35:28 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Finalapproach29er

Well, you’re being reasonable and said something slightly critical of Sarah. Be ready for an onslaught from the cultists.


36 posted on 11/27/2010 5:35:32 AM PST by Bamanot
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well, Mr Rove, I have my leftist girlfriend liking Palin more and more every day. Se even wants to go to the book signing with me.


37 posted on 11/27/2010 5:37:26 AM PST by chemicalman (The Obama's: Proud members of the Vacation-A-Month Club.)
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To: Never on my watch

She could run Pat Buchanan as VP and get even more independent votes!!!!


38 posted on 11/27/2010 5:38:29 AM PST by Bamanot
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
Frank Rich of the NYT is beside himself that she is getting PAID!!!! to do an infomercial. It really is just too funny. His flying spittle is a bit of a problem but well worth the trouble to get some schadenfreude.
39 posted on 11/27/2010 5:42:28 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: samtheman

The more Rove talks .................


40 posted on 11/27/2010 5:42:34 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Bamanot

I am sure you were trying to make a point. But you were woefully ineffective in your attempt.


41 posted on 11/27/2010 5:43:09 AM PST by Never on my watch (It is NOT OK for a government stranger to touch a child's private parts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Must have something to do with how the media elevated him (while insulting G.W. Bush) by calling him “Bush’s brain.” Watching Mr. Rove’s recent performance on matters, will only serve to elevate Bush, as it now appears (without much doubt) the president was using his own brain.
42 posted on 11/27/2010 5:50:59 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Let’s try someone like Nixon, Ford, Bush 1, Dole, Bush 2 or McCain again. Look at that record of... OK, don’t look at the record. Just believe in RINOs!


43 posted on 11/27/2010 5:51:49 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It’s all understandable and it all makes sense...if you have you head up your ass.


44 posted on 11/27/2010 5:52:51 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Ever notice how all GOP candidates are stooopid and all Democrat candidates are brilliant?

Ever notice how with the MSM, up is down and down is up and black is white and soft is hard and so on and so on?

Institutions of higher “learning” were taken over by radical leftists (schools of journalism, schools of education, womens’ studies, environmentalism and science fiefdoms to push correct thought) and their influence has bled over into how churches approach religion.

The tipping point is upon us.


45 posted on 11/27/2010 6:00:51 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
O'Reilly undoubtedly carries a lot of clout at Fox....and if so, I can see why Rove is on all the time....they are two of a kind....opportunists, closet elitist liberals and untrustworthy.

However, if it's Roger Ailes shoving Rove down our throats every night on each of the various three-consecutive night-time shows, it's rather inexplicable.

Maybe Rove works cheap...which is what his political pontificating is worth.

I hope his contract is not renewed when it comes up. He takes up too much vauable air time with totally wrong messages for our country's frightening situation.

Leni

46 posted on 11/27/2010 6:02:31 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Just mythoughts
This is just plain weird... I typed my response below your comment, spell check, hit post, and all that showed up was your comment...

Anyway, my basic response was President Bush told US from the get-go he was a unifier, and he worked best in Texas with democrats. And thus far I can say President Bush never lied to US, which is most unusual for any politician.

However, President Bush, IMO was so blinded by his belief he could unify US that he ignored the liberals whose ideology is to destroy US the most blessed nation in all of recorded history. The media devils day in and day out chewed him up and spew him out of their lower intestines.

Rove almost seems to have been some part of the lower intestines given what is now coming out of his mouth.

47 posted on 11/27/2010 6:03:07 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

Strange is right.

I sometimes wonder how much is true and how much is artificially staged. Throw in other strange scenarios like what happened with Abledanger, and it becomes more clear how urgent it is that we replace everyone in Washington with regular Americans.


48 posted on 11/27/2010 6:03:47 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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>>>Rove: Palin tour in Iowa ‘smart,’ but she has to reach outside GOP ranks

She is Tokyo Karl. And the more she pisses off The Establishment, Ruling Class Blue Bloods the more I, and others like her.


49 posted on 11/27/2010 6:06:57 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: MinuteGal

True enough. But then he employs Geraldo Rivera and others to let them vent and be convenient foils for educated thought, so they serve some useful purpose.


50 posted on 11/27/2010 6:07:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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