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It Begins: Medicare Patients See Long Waits for Doctors
Verum Serum ^ | November 26, 2010 | John Sexton

Posted on 11/27/2010 7:17:28 AM PST by SumProVita

From the right-wing extremists at the Washington Post:

Want an appointment with kidney specialist Adam Weinstein of Easton, Md.? If you’re a senior covered by Medicare, the wait is eight weeks.

How about a checkup from geriatric specialist Michael Trahos? Expect to see him every six months: The Alexandria-based doctor has been limiting most of his Medicare patients to twice yearly rather than the quarterly checkups he considers ideal for the elderly. Still, at least he’ll see you. Top-ranked primary care doctor Linda Yau is one of three physicians with the District’s Foxhall Internists group who recently announced they will no longer be accepting Medicare patients.

“It’s not easy. But you realize you either do this or you don’t stay in business,” she said.

Recall that these steep cuts to Medicare reimbursement rates are the way in which the Obama administration was able to claim that a) Obamacare cost less than a trillion dollars and b) it would bend the cost curve. In fact, the administration now has a stark choice between instituting the “doc fix” which would rescind the Medicare cuts or welcoming in the era of decreased access and rationing via long wait times. They don’t have long. The rate cuts to Medicare reimbursement are set to begin December 1st.

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KEYWORDS: bloggersandpersonal; healthcare; medicare; obamacare; romney; romney4obamacare; romneycare; romneydeathpanels
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Do you think this will begin to wake up a few more people?
1 posted on 11/27/2010 7:17:32 AM PST by SumProVita
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To: SumProVita

Will seniors still be able to get health care if they simply pay the doctors in cash?


2 posted on 11/27/2010 7:21:47 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: SumProVita

My doc says every 6 months. I say “when I get sick or my blood pressure changes from “my norm”.


3 posted on 11/27/2010 7:23:01 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: pnh102

The physicians cannot accept cash from those patients. If they do they will be fined. Second offense means prison. Nice, huh?


4 posted on 11/27/2010 7:25:36 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: SumProVita
The rate cuts to Medicare reimbursement are set to begin December 1st.

Like always, the rate cuts will be waived. The joke is that the CBO figures to calculate the costs of Obamacare had to assume that the cuts were going to made even though everyone knew that they never are implemented.

5 posted on 11/27/2010 7:27:09 AM PST by kabar
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To: ladyjane
The physicians cannot accept cash from those patients. If they do they will be fined. Second offense means prison. Nice, huh?

But there's no death panels!

6 posted on 11/27/2010 7:29:06 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: SumProVita
This article is rather disingenuous.

Most specialists, dental and medical, have waiting lists, and that has nothing to do with Medicare.

Last year, I had to see an endodonist. The earliest appointment I could get was nearly 3 months. Luckily, they had a cancellation the next week, and I got the appointment if I could get to the endodonist's office within a hour (I live 30 miles away). I took the appointment.

7 posted on 11/27/2010 7:29:26 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: SumProVita

Perhaps a few. There remains, however, a general sense of helplessness or “I may not like it, but what can one person do about it” attitude among the populace.

And, of course, that’s just what the arrogant bureaucrats want us to believe. HCAHPS - as currently structured - is the TSA of healthcare.


8 posted on 11/27/2010 7:31:44 AM PST by troublesome creek
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To: ladyjane

I’ll be eligible for Medicare next year. What if I don’t sign up and keep my private insurance plan...?


9 posted on 11/27/2010 7:32:05 AM PST by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: pnh102
For now they can pay cash for service anywhere (if they can afford it). One additional concern: many medicare members have additional private insurance. Those private payers consider medicare the primary coverage, so you have to file for medicare reimbursement first. Then they pick up the balance(yes there are copays in medicare--it is not all "free.") If your doctor doesn't take medicare, how are you supposed to file? And trust me, the private carrier won't be sympathetic.
10 posted on 11/27/2010 7:33:06 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: SumProVita

How is this not a blog?


11 posted on 11/27/2010 7:33:49 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: SumProVita

I’ve read a few articles recently that said the same thing they are not accepting new medicare patients think how bad that will get as more people join the program yikes.


12 posted on 11/27/2010 7:36:44 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: TomGuy

“I got the appointment if I could get to the endodonist’s office within a hour (I live 30 miles away). I took the appointment.”

...that happens with me a lot too...luckily, I’m retired and can drop everything and jump in the car....health care professionals all seem so busy these days...you take what you can get...and btw, because I know my face time with the doc is tightly scheduled; I take a list of questions in with me....worse thing in the world is to remember that I forgot to ask him something on the drive home.


13 posted on 11/27/2010 7:37:29 AM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: Victor
You will start getting mailings in the near future from all sorts of insurance companies explaining the rules. Basically, though you are not required to sign up, you need to sign up within three months of your 65th birthday or it becomes harder and more restrictive later on. Right now anyone who can afford the premiums should probably sign up and keep a secondary insurance. Medicare does not pay as lavishly as some people think, so Medigap plans are widespread and useful.
14 posted on 11/27/2010 7:39:03 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Victor

I really don’t know about that. What I do know is physicians face prison if they take cash or any form of payment. No wonder many of them are planning on retiring. I know some who are saving every penny they can right now because they will be quitting when the rationing gets worse.


15 posted on 11/27/2010 7:40:40 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: SumProVita

the cuts in Medicare Are already forcing practices to limit the age of new patience. The British medical system for seniors first.


16 posted on 11/27/2010 7:43:29 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: SumProVita
I sought out a more natural way of treating myself and my family years ago (I'm on Medicare), and it's saved me money in the long run, I believe. No more waiting at the doctor's office, or wasting gas/time on traveling either. If Jesus could create us, He certainly could leave us with that which would heal our minds and our bodies, so I pretty much think most (of course, not all) ailments can be cured or prevented through His sources, passing around B.O.'s.
17 posted on 11/27/2010 7:43:59 AM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: SumProVita

I’m not medicare yet but usually have to wait 6-8 weeks to see my ob/gyn. I opted this last time for the nurse practitioner. Just have to plan ahead.


18 posted on 11/27/2010 7:46:58 AM PST by Mercat
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To: hinckley buzzard
"You will start getting mailings in the near future from all sorts of insurance companies explaining the rules. Basically, though you are not required to sign up, you need to sign up within three months of your 65th birthday or it becomes harder and more restrictive later on. Right now anyone who can afford the premiums should probably sign up and keep a secondary insurance. Medicare does not pay as lavishly as some people think, so Medigap plans are widespread and useful."

That doesn't deal with the situation of some doctors and practices not taking Medicare at all. If your doctor is one of those, the decision is much harder.

19 posted on 11/27/2010 7:50:42 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Victor
I’ll be eligible for Medicare next year. What if I don’t sign up and keep my private insurance plan...?

Your private plan may have something to say about it? Why would they continue that expense if you are elegible for Medicare?

20 posted on 11/27/2010 7:53:55 AM PST by Hattie
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To: SumProVita

Long delays are not out of the ordinary for state Medicaid patients. That’s been going on for years.
I’m surprized it just now becoming an issue with Medicare.


21 posted on 11/27/2010 7:55:15 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (Had enough, yet?)
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To: SumProVita

A doctor (specialist) in the family who is a partner in a huge practice in a southern state said recently that they are dropping Medicare. Their patient base is in the thousands. They simply can’t afford it.


22 posted on 11/27/2010 7:56:29 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Victor
I’ll be eligible for Medicare next year. What if I don’t sign up and keep my private insurance plan...?

As of now, I don't think you can do that. Clinton forced all seniors onto Medicare.
23 posted on 11/27/2010 7:56:51 AM PST by Yet_Again
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To: mlizzy

You tell that to the face of a patient with cancer, or diabitis, and a score of diseases that cannot be treated with flower of thistle, etc.
Be thankful you have good health and have the luxury of spouting such drivel. Wrapping it all in superior “Jesus” talk is an embarresment and you should be ashamed.


24 posted on 11/27/2010 7:57:08 AM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: SumProVita
Do you think this will begin to wake up a few more people?

Nope. With The First Uhh-Umm-Err's approval ratings still in the high 30's, he could roast live kittens on TV and they'd still vote for him because "at least he's not a ... (cue ominous music)... REPUBLICAN or TEA-BAGGER ...."

25 posted on 11/27/2010 7:57:48 AM PST by kromike
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To: Starboard

Yep...this was evident here in Tennessee over 2 years ago when my husband was looking for a new physician after a move. Several doctors here would not accept any new patient on Medicare (even if they had Tri-care), because they were not getting paid.


26 posted on 11/27/2010 8:00:27 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

I would love to see Obama and others who pushed Obamacare get an incurable disease that their platinum health care plan is helpless to address.


27 posted on 11/27/2010 8:02:33 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: SumProVita

I think doctors can do a lot more to sink Ostupidass from running for a 2nd term just by acting like this in anticipation of what will happen to them in a 2nd term

2 years of geezers complainign will hurt a lot


28 posted on 11/27/2010 8:03:14 AM PST by Mr. K (TSA: "Because 'profiling' is much more offensive than grabbing your balls")
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To: SumProVita

No I don’t. Not unless it is publisized. And that is our job. These folks are going to be too sick, and dying to do it. Obama, and every other communist nation, wants the older citizens to ‘just die already’...because they are the ones who are the witnesses of the truth about society.


29 posted on 11/27/2010 8:03:29 AM PST by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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To: Victor

Many private insurance companies automatically drop those eligible for Medicare.

If you do not sign up -- at least for the prescription drug plan, you will be assessed a percentage fine for each year you fail to sign up. That fine is cumulative and is imposed on all future years, even if you later join Medicare.


30 posted on 11/27/2010 8:04:21 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: ladyjane

>>The physicians cannot accept cash from those patients. If they do they will be fined. Second offense means prison. Nice, huh?<<

Who would know?
It’s just going underground. When I was the Office Manager in a medical office, I was not allowed to tell people we took cash. My doctor didn’t take checks, cash only. Handed over in the office and the payments never hit the books.


31 posted on 11/27/2010 8:10:51 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: tuckrdout
These folks are going to be too sick, and dying to do it. Obama, and every other communist nation, wants the older citizens to ‘just die already’...because they are the ones who are the witnesses of the truth about society.

Obama and the socialists in Congress need for the older population to die off sooner so that more of their estate assets are left to be taken when they die. They have plans for that money, and they don't appreciate a bunch of old, white folks thinking they're entitled to it just because they earned it.

32 posted on 11/27/2010 8:11:19 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Victor
If you keep working after you qualify, you might be able to keep it. Sometimes your current insurance can be used as your supplemental later... If you postpone your choice (without having an approved qualified plan) you could get stuck with a choice you don't want... Your HR department is a good place to start... they understand this stuff. Most of us who have dealt with this in any way don't understand it... it's tricky.

Many state's have a group that explains insurance choices. In Florida the group is called SHINE... You probably have the equivalent... Be careful with groups that also sell - as they'll push you into something that works for them - rather than for you. I recently heard a horror story about a medical advantage plan... lots of pit falls out there. I'll say a prayer for you.

33 posted on 11/27/2010 8:12:27 AM PST by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming..)
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To: WestwardHo
Be thankful you have good health and have the luxury of spouting such drivel.
Good health, that's a joke! I have two auto-immune illnesses, both incurable (or so they say) and I am on disability because of one of them, yet I seem to be finding partial cures through holistic health (because no mainstream doctor has been able to help me thus far). And I did say most, not all. Did you not read that? And I am not ashamed regarding my belief in Jesus and His workings.


34 posted on 11/27/2010 8:14:25 AM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Victor
What if I don’t sign up and keep my private insurance plan...?

If you get your health ins through an employer it is doubtful they will allow you to keep the same plan when you reach medicare age. If you purchase your health insurance on the open market - -? Depends, but I would think most health insurance plans cease after one reaches age 65 and you are offered a secondary to medicare.
35 posted on 11/27/2010 8:14:33 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: hinckley buzzard
If your doctor doesn't take medicare, how are you supposed to file? And trust me, the private carrier won't be sympathetic.

Bluntly, if the doc doesn't take Medicare, you're SOL with that doctor. He won't see you in the first place.

36 posted on 11/27/2010 8:15:38 AM PST by Ole Okie (American.)
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To: Cheerio

True story - my mom (78 years old) has two herniated disks. It took over a month to see a specialist, and now she is having to wait until January 6 for surgery. Meanwhile she is in excruciating pain, flat on her back and cannot do anything except take the pain pills they are giving her - Oxycontin. Very sad to see our health system at this point ...


37 posted on 11/27/2010 8:17:20 AM PST by Free America52 (The White guys are getting pissed off. We beat Hitler Hirohito and Krushchev. Obama will be easy.)
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To: pnh102
All the countries where they have 'obamacare' type systems, the wealthy have private alternatives. What dems have done with this mess is they've given all of us the equivalent of a 'free clinic for the homeless' type medical care. It'll be horrible... with all the charm and sensitivity of a group run by the TSA...

If you have the money, doctors are setting up private care practices - you'll be a member for a set annual fee plus expenses. Have fun watching your children and grandchildren who can't afford such care to do without... Or you can go broke trying to protect them... This is some democrat's way of giving us 'choice'...

I'm starting to hate democrats.

38 posted on 11/27/2010 8:19:13 AM PST by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming..)
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To: mlizzy

To bad all that hasn’t taught you to be more thoughtful and compassonate towards others in what you say.
There are a lot of people with chronic medical conditions, some catastrophic and complex, others with conditions that may appear “simple”, but have long term, life changing consequences if not treated.
They see what “national healthcare” means to them, and they are frightened.
A I’m doing great, too bad about you attitude is just wrong.


39 posted on 11/27/2010 8:23:52 AM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: netmilsmom

I once had a very good customer, a physician. I would call him to pay me and he said come by and tell his receptionist and she would. After the first time I knew the drill. She would take a cigar box from under the counter and pay me.

Once I went and she hauled out the cigar box and it was empty. She just shrugged and said “sorry, Some one else beat you to it...... maybe Thursday”


40 posted on 11/27/2010 8:25:21 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: bert

HA! Did you get paid?
I remember my boss taking money out of his wallet for payments.


41 posted on 11/27/2010 8:28:02 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: netmilsmom

Yes, he always paid. He was a doctor, not a lawyer. Doctors pay, lawyers are a different story. I didn’t do work for lawyers unless I knew them personally.


42 posted on 11/27/2010 8:36:44 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: netmilsmom; bert

It’s going to be difficult to pay cash for a mammogram or a colonoscopy. They are being rationed. The plan is for no mammograms until age 50 and no colonoscopies over the age of 70 and that may change to 65.

Sneaking somebody in at 11pm for a procedure won’t be easy and what physician will risk it with no malpractice insurance. Won’t be impossible though. I know a neurosurgeon who sedated his labrador and did a mylogram at midnight in MGH! Many many years ago.


43 posted on 11/27/2010 9:08:12 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: SumProVita

Death Panels will be next and then people ordered by Big Brother to Hospice Centers instead of getting care. Do you think they will name it The Obama/Reid/Pelosi Auschwitz Center?


44 posted on 11/27/2010 9:22:19 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: bert

I once read an article about a lawyer buying a new house in CA. When the developer found out his chosen profession, he backed out of the deal, saying he refuses to sell homes to lawyers.

The various experts called by the columnist all agreed that the lawyer had no recourse. You cant discriminate based on age, sex, race, and the like, but you sure can on occupation.


45 posted on 11/27/2010 9:46:26 AM PST by freespirited (This tagline dedicated to the memory of John Armor, a/k/a Congressman Billybob.)
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To: WestwardHo
Whatever! Sit around and be anxious about Obamacare and worry yourself to the ground. There are alternatives that while they might not heal a severely ill person, they certainly can make things a little more bearable for them, and some illnesses can outright be cured. I've eased my arthritis with essential oils to the point I no longer have to cling on to rails (white knuckle stuff) to climb stairs, for example, and lots of people have had success with Wobenzym N, something I'm now taking for continuing help in this area.

One should never, ever, ever, give up, just because we have horrible leadership in the White House.

And prayer works all the time (in one way or another) for those who believe.
46 posted on 11/27/2010 10:41:46 AM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: SumProVita

Has any disabled veteran younger than 50, been informed that they no longer will be getting medical coverage through the Veterans Administration. i live on disabled military benefits and i do work. But I have service related injuries and I have received a letter telling me that the VA will no longer provide my care and I must take medicare. I did refuse the end of life counseling that was required of being a disabled veteran. Just thought to ask if some others have received this letter. I have a couple of attorney friends and medical doctors whom are trying to get to the bottom of what is going on. No insurance will cover me because of the severity of the injuries rceived while in service.

Here I am preparing for another cervical neck surgery and the appointment is next month. Years ago injured in the Marine Barracks Bombing in Lebanon, I have undergone one cervical vertebrae replaced in May 2010 and now have to have three more replaced. Without the replacement of cervical vertebrae 2-3 I will have to go on a ventilator. What a bunch of BS.


47 posted on 11/27/2010 10:45:49 AM PST by hondact200 ( Obama is Nuckin Futs!!! Obama has the Lead Touch unlike the Midas Touch of Gold)
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To: SumProVita

Our backup health plan is to go to Ram I hospital in Chiang Mai, Thailand. It is a “for profit” hospital. Impractical and of no use in critical cases? Yes, but faced with a seven month wait for an internal medicine Dr in USA, we went there and took care of a problem that wouldn’t wait. Now we do go to Thailand every year for several months so our solution is not available to most but we know several people w who live there because of socialized medicine in Europe.


48 posted on 11/27/2010 10:45:49 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: SumProVita

49 posted on 11/27/2010 12:11:18 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: SumProVita

obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors


50 posted on 11/27/2010 4:04:44 PM PST by GailA (NO JESUS, NO CHRISTmas!)
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