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Rendell vetoes gun bill and two others
philly.com ^

Posted on 11/27/2010 1:40:45 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Rendell vetoes gun bill and two others

By Joelle Farrell

INQUIRER STAFF WRITER

Gov. Rendell on Saturday vetoed three bills, including a controversial measure that would have expanded a person's right to use lethal force.

Rendell said an expansion of the so-called "Castle Doctrine," would have "threatened – not enhanced – the public safety of Pennsylvania citizens." The law already protects residents' right to defend themselves in their homes, and the bill would have extended that right to virtually anywhere a person encountered a perceived threat.

"The bill as passed encourages the use of deadly force, even when safe retreat is available, and advances a 'shoot first, ask questions later' mentality," Rendell said in a statement issued Saturday afternoon. "I do not believe that in a civilized society we should encourage violent and deadly confrontation when the victim can safely protect themselves."

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; edrendell; pennsylvania

1 posted on 11/27/2010 1:40:46 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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He has only delayed the inevitable. This will pass under the new administration.


2 posted on 11/27/2010 1:45:36 PM PST by Jenny217
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To: Sub-Driver

There are enough votes to OVERTURN this A$$HATS veto !


3 posted on 11/27/2010 1:47:14 PM PST by Renegade
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To: Jenny217

Yes it will, Corbett im sure will pass this. I was surprised the state house put this on Rendells desk now????


4 posted on 11/27/2010 1:48:53 PM PST by beericus (Putting the cool in conservatism, dip in the hip and a glid in the stride.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Complicit in the murder of all citizens whose 2nd Amendment rights he's abridging, causing them to fall victim to predators.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

5 posted on 11/27/2010 1:48:59 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"I do not believe that in a civilized society we should encourage violent and deadly confrontation when the victim can safely protect themselves."

Said the man that travels with an armed security detail. Precious.

6 posted on 11/27/2010 1:50:18 PM PST by Ethrane ("obsta principiis")
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To: Sub-Driver

Do they have civilization in Philadelphia?


7 posted on 11/27/2010 1:52:29 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: Sub-Driver; All

I really wish I’d said it first but “A gun in hand is worth 2 cops on the way.”


8 posted on 11/27/2010 1:53:56 PM PST by j.argese (Boycott Nevada.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Not after the sun goes down......


9 posted on 11/27/2010 1:55:31 PM PST by Sub-Driver (Proud member of the Republican wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Sub-Driver
this elitist leftist scum's gonna be outta office come January....we can wait.
10 posted on 11/27/2010 2:01:12 PM PST by Vaquero (Dont pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Sub-Driver
an expansion of the so-called "Castle Doctrine," would have "threatened – not enhanced – the public safety of Pennsylvania citizens.

Which citizens is he trying to protect? Law-abiding, or criminals?

11 posted on 11/27/2010 2:03:07 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: Jenny217

He is a scumbag nonethless.....poll after poll shows people want this.


12 posted on 11/27/2010 2:08:13 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Sub-Driver
Rendell needs to Google "Brittany Zimmerman"
13 posted on 11/27/2010 2:10:07 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Jenny217; All
It passed with veto proof majorities in both houses, but the legislative session is over, so there is no chance for a veto. Rendell has burned his bridges. He must not be considering running for an office in Pennsylvania. Perhaps he is looking at national office or an appointment in the Obama administration.
14 posted on 11/27/2010 2:11:36 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Renegade

This needs to be BH1 in the coming year.....with a stronger version (I am thinking of Texas).


15 posted on 11/27/2010 2:19:26 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Red in Blue PA

BH1=HB1


16 posted on 11/27/2010 2:19:46 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Renegade

Session is over. We have to start from scratch next year.


17 posted on 11/27/2010 2:34:23 PM PST by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: beericus

Because we have been working on this long before we knew who the candidates for governor would even be, let alone the winner.


18 posted on 11/27/2010 2:36:37 PM PST by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: Dan Nunn

Well, I understand that. I was just thinking out loud i guess.

So how are the next steps going to play out?


19 posted on 11/27/2010 2:42:06 PM PST by beericus (Putting the cool in conservatism, dip in the hip and a glid in the stride.)
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To: Sub-Driver

There is no such thing as a safe retreat.


20 posted on 11/27/2010 2:43:10 PM PST by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I can honestly say, you would need to be a cultural anthropologist to understand “civilization in Philadelphia”.

I say this because I worked and lived in this hell hole for 35 years.

Here is a good example. With this FLA loophole BS.

There is a councilmen here who for the third time is trying to write gun laws. He stands in front of the cameras, says to anyone who is watching, yes i know its illegal for me to write gun laws, and they have to be written at the state level. His constituents who are paying him hear this, hear how he is wasting his time and their money, yet he still has his job.


21 posted on 11/27/2010 2:49:07 PM PST by beericus (Putting the cool in conservatism, dip in the hip and a glid in the stride.)
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To: Sub-Driver; Born Conservative; airborne; smoothsailing; Dr. Scarpetta; martin_fierro; Coop; ...
BUMP & A BANG! No surprises there with Fast Eddy.
22 posted on 11/27/2010 2:57:44 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: beericus

Next step is we start from scratch in 2011. Just like we did in 2009, 2007, and 2005. We have a friendly house and gov now, but we still have questionable repubs in the senate that could give us grief.


23 posted on 11/27/2010 3:00:23 PM PST by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: Sub-Driver

PA just elected a new GOP governor, correct?


24 posted on 11/27/2010 3:16:33 PM PST by Signalman
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

Who didn’t see this coming, but expect to pass next year.


25 posted on 11/27/2010 3:22:36 PM PST by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: Renegade
Votes yes, time no.

The bill will have to be introduced next year.

26 posted on 11/27/2010 3:24:08 PM PST by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: Signalman

I think this should be re-introduced as HB1 on the first day of the new Assembly. It should get passed and be sitting on Tom’s desk so he can sign it the day he takes office. A slap in the fact to Rendell.


27 posted on 11/27/2010 3:24:13 PM PST by mombrown1 (PA Coordinatior SAS The Second Amendment is the reset button for the Constitution)
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To: The Comedian

My fathers attorney told me forty years ago to always keep two weapons loaded, not necessarily hot loaded, round in the chamber, but loaded in my home because this makes a “safe retreat” impossible.

You cannot retreat from your home knowing there is a loaded shotgun available to the intruder.


28 posted on 11/27/2010 5:32:54 PM PST by B4Ranch (I have never met one, not one Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism.)
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To: B4Ranch
You cannot retreat from your home knowing there is a loaded shotgun available to the intruder.

Excellent advice.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

29 posted on 11/27/2010 9:24:13 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: B4Ranch
"You cannot retreat from your home knowing there is a loaded shotgun available to the intruder."

Not needed in Pennsylvania. We have Castle Doctrine for inside the home. This new law would expand those same laws to outside the home. In other words, if you were out on the street and were in danger for your life and had an opportunity to retreat you wouldn't have to. You can stand your ground outside of your home.

The most important part of the bill IMO is cutting off the possible civil jeopardy you might be in. Just about every time these shootings are deemd justified, but the "vicitims" wonderful family can still go after you in civil court. With this law, if the shooting was deemed justified, then the family can't go after you in civil court.
30 posted on 11/29/2010 8:29:01 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

My fathers attorney told me forty years ago

Not talking about today. Most states did not have Castle Law forty years ago.


31 posted on 11/29/2010 8:36:25 AM PST by B4Ranch (I have never met one, not one Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism.)
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