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BREAKING NEWS: Governor Rendell Vetoes Castle Doctrine
CBS 21 News ^ | Nov, 27, 2010

Posted on 11/27/2010 3:06:07 PM PST by T.L.Sink

Three more bills met Gov. Ed Rendell's veto pen, including one that would have expanded a person's self-defense rights to use deadly force in certain circumstances outside their home or car. The self-defense bill would have expanded Pennsylvania's so-called "Castle Doctrine" and offered immunity against civil lawsuits in certain cases.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; edrendell; pennsylvania
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Gov. Ed "fast Eddy" Rendell has now decided that Pennsylvanians have no ethical or legal right to self-defence outside their homes even when threatened by imminent bodily harm or death. According to this theory, a potential victim of violence is expected to just run away or retreat, eliminating the possibility of an encounter. This madness ignores the historical fact that from English common law to American constitutional law a fundamental right in every civilized society has been the right of the individual to defend his life and property against criminal violence. This right of self-defence is not only a timeless part of criminal law but the natural law of the created order. "Fast Eddy" might just as well try to legislate away the instinct for self-preservation!
1 posted on 11/27/2010 3:06:09 PM PST by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

When are they going to vote this worthless pigman out of office.


2 posted on 11/27/2010 3:10:59 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: T.L.Sink

Well, you get what you voted for...

Ain’t it a shame...

Obviously, Pennsylvania will be a safer place to live now that you are not permitted to defend yourself...

Unless you are in a place of the “state’s” choosing...

When do y’all get a crack at throwing this scumbag to the street again???

If you can do it...


3 posted on 11/27/2010 3:11:14 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: T.L.Sink

LOL@purple/union states! LOSERS!


4 posted on 11/27/2010 3:12:30 PM PST by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: T.L.Sink

:(


5 posted on 11/27/2010 3:13:26 PM PST by ColdOne (MERRY CHRISTMAS)
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To: Cheetahcat

They just elected a new, Republican gov. didn’t they?


6 posted on 11/27/2010 3:13:33 PM PST by Signalman
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To: T.L.Sink

Fifty two days until we get a REAL Governor of Pennsylvania—counting down to the end of the Philly Fats regime.


7 posted on 11/27/2010 3:15:20 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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To: Cheetahcat

He is out in Jan. Republican Tom Corbi is the new Gov.


8 posted on 11/27/2010 3:16:50 PM PST by TLEIBY308 (Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
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To: Signalman
They just elected a new, Republican gov. didn’t they?

Yes.

9 posted on 11/27/2010 3:17:17 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: T.L.Sink

Anybody know what his future plans are?


10 posted on 11/27/2010 3:18:32 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: DCBryan1

P.A. now has a Republican Gov. and house and senate.Fast Eddie leaves in Jan.


11 posted on 11/27/2010 3:18:59 PM PST by TLEIBY308 (Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
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To: stevie_d_64

Your post is just stupid.


12 posted on 11/27/2010 3:19:09 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: T.L.Sink

I live in Pike County and can not for the life of me understand why people would vote for a guy like this. This guy who has done nothing but cripple this state and it’s hard working people yet made it a playground for entitlement morons. I hope the working class of PA will wake up soon and vote out this AHOLE who seems determined to deconstruct our Constitution.


13 posted on 11/27/2010 3:19:14 PM PST by chris haney
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To: T.L.Sink

right of self defense does not make it a right to say its self defense when its not, so I don’t know why he would oppose it unless one side with criminals


14 posted on 11/27/2010 3:20:19 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: huldah1776
Anybody know what his future plans are?

Swabbing out white house toilets...with his tongue.

15 posted on 11/27/2010 3:21:53 PM PST by GoldenPup
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To: Cheetahcat

What Rendell is doing is inviting criminals to move to PA.


16 posted on 11/27/2010 3:23:25 PM PST by 353FMG (In the end, it will be either ISLAM or America -- it can never be both. Choose NOW!)
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To: AlmaKing

Well, I guess we can count on you to do whatever it takes to keep him in office...

You’re doing a great job!!!

Let’s hear it for Ed’s number one fan!!! Woo Hoo!!!


17 posted on 11/27/2010 3:23:56 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: AlmaKing

Just out of curiosity I’d like to know why you think Stevie’s post was stupid. I don’t see a thing wrong with it..........


18 posted on 11/27/2010 3:27:57 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: T.L.Sink
Let me guess...Fast Eddy (and his family) have armed protection 24/7/365.

Am I getting warm?

19 posted on 11/27/2010 3:27:57 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: TLEIBY308

“He is out in Jan. Republican Tom Corbi is the new Gov.”

Great news ,the trash got taken out.


20 posted on 11/27/2010 3:29:28 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: 353FMG

“What Rendell is doing is inviting criminals to move to PA.”

Exactly I fail to see what these filthy Liberals see in allowing Americans to be unable to defend themselves.


21 posted on 11/27/2010 3:31:02 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Cheetahcat

<When are they going to vote this worthless pigman out of office.

What is wrong with the people of PA? I lived in Philly for 10 years and had gradually been voting for more conservatives and libertarians, but hadn’t changed my registration from Dim.

Well, ole Ed Rendell, who made some nasty remarks about there being no minorities at the national convention (which wasn’t true) made me so angry I finally got off my rear and changed my registration to the GOP. How does this guy still hold an elected office in PA?


22 posted on 11/27/2010 3:31:30 PM PST by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: Signalman

“They just elected a new, Republican gov. didn’t they?”

Oops!!


23 posted on 11/27/2010 3:32:12 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“Let me guess...Fast Eddy (and his family) have armed protection 24/7/365.

Am I getting warm?”

He should be made obey the same laws the rest of the people have too.


24 posted on 11/27/2010 3:34:49 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: T.L.Sink
When is Ed going to give up his armed guards?
25 posted on 11/27/2010 3:35:17 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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To: stevie_d_64

We have a new Governor in Jan. This is Rendell’s parting shot to screw with the law abiding.


26 posted on 11/27/2010 3:35:24 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Guilty of being White.)
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To: chris haney

I live in Crawford County and we all don’t have to worry about Ed Spendell anymore. It’s called term limits.
Ed Spendell, though, is not done. With his veto today and his history, he’ll be a perfect commentator on MSNBC. My prediction is that he will go for DNC Chairman (again) Or maybe a FOXNEWS anal ist, which he already is. But full time. GOD help us all. Yes, we still cling to our religion and our guns. Might yet be the savior to OUR REPUBLIC.


27 posted on 11/27/2010 3:36:02 PM PST by hkp123
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To: stevie_d_64
Let’s hear it for Ed’s number one fan!!! Woo Hoo!!!

Shut up idiot. If you paid attention to PA State's voting returns, this state went right in a big way..

But its easier to paint state citizens with a broad brush when out trolling isn't it?

28 posted on 11/27/2010 3:38:12 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Guilty of being White.)
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To: Cheetahcat

“Fast Eddy” is term limited and on the way out. This crap was his farewell legacy!


29 posted on 11/27/2010 3:39:34 PM PST by T.L.Sink
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To: Cheetahcat; All

Fast Eddie is out in January, with Republican Tom Corbett assuming the governor’s office after winning the election. The legislature will pass this again rather quickly and Corbett will sign it. This was Rendell’s last gasp!


30 posted on 11/27/2010 3:41:22 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: chris haney
I live in Pike County and can not for the life of me understand why people would vote for a guy like this. This guy who has done nothing but cripple this state and it’s hard working people yet made it a playground for entitlement morons. I hope the working class of PA will wake up soon and vote out this AHOLE who seems determined to deconstruct our Constitution.

Keep up with the news, they did vote him out but the Republican doesn't take over until Jan.

31 posted on 11/27/2010 3:46:01 PM PST by calex59
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To: T.L.Sink

So with a GOP governor coming in and a GOP legislature.Could this law be brought back next year and perhaps a different result?


32 posted on 11/27/2010 3:47:54 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Cheetahcat

He’s only in office until January!


33 posted on 11/27/2010 3:48:11 PM PST by Cricket24 (Proud to be a CONSERVATIVE WOMAN!!!!!!!)
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To: stevie_d_64

I think the recent House elections mean that people have had enough of this liberal crap and are getting serious about taking their country back - from Obama and his fellow socialists and America haters.


34 posted on 11/27/2010 3:48:18 PM PST by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink
a potential victim of violence is expected to just run away or retreat,

Ummmm, I have a question: what if you run away (the Obama Doctrine) and the thug chases you? Are you ordered by law to run faster? Will the Democrat Party (Lawyers) throw you in jail because you didn't try hard enough?

35 posted on 11/27/2010 3:50:40 PM PST by kromike
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To: 4rcane

Dimocrats/liberals believe in killing unborn babies and saving criminals and terrorists. That’s a fact!! They are perverted.


36 posted on 11/27/2010 3:50:53 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: lightman

I think you’re in-coming governor is great and a real patriot!


37 posted on 11/27/2010 3:51:54 PM PST by T.L.Sink
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To: huldah1776

I havn’t heard about any future plans but I’m sure we’ll hear about his bitching and complaining. But, on the good side, nobody can be another Bill Clinton who will only GO AWAY when he’s in his coffin!


38 posted on 11/27/2010 3:56:22 PM PST by T.L.Sink
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Dimocrats/liberals believe in killing unborn babies and saving criminals and terrorists. That’s a fact!! They are perverted.
They may ALSO be perverted... but what they are PRIMARILY is evil.
39 posted on 11/27/2010 3:58:20 PM PST by samtheman
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To: T.L.Sink

This passed by a large enough margin to override Fast Eddie’s veto. So regardless, his veto is irrelevant.


40 posted on 11/27/2010 3:59:29 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: T.L.Sink

The Dems have Rendell, we have the Huckster. Two peas in a pod. Both pro criminal, anti victim.


41 posted on 11/27/2010 4:03:22 PM PST by John D
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To: T.L.Sink

Fast Eddie seems to think that”your home is HIS castle”!


42 posted on 11/27/2010 4:05:10 PM PST by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: AlmaKing

When you describe something as “stupid” you should be prepared to defend your “analysis” (such as it is).

Perhaps you have no idea at all as to what the Castle Doctrine is about.

The ball is your court.


43 posted on 11/27/2010 4:12:28 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

Make that “The ball is in your court.”


44 posted on 11/27/2010 4:13:22 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Michael Barnes

Not in that race for governor apparently...

Trolling??? Get real...I’m an observer with surgical skills that draw out folks like you and yer buddy there to react...

But since you and yer buddy reacted incorrectly, and instead of making a mature, objective analysis of what I was really getting at...Then I can say that I was right, Pennsylvania cannot get it done when it counts...

That really is not your fault, but the proof is in the pudding...

All I know is you have a governor that doesn’t understand the moral and unalienable right that is afforded to you and yer buddy there, that self defense is a right instilled by an authority higher than any government instituted amoung men...

If you as an elected official, candidate or citizen of that community do not have a basic understanding of that concept and are willing to go to the mat for it...Then it IS a shame...Some people, might even go so far as to say we have no use for ya...But I believe in people to do what is right eventually...

Lets see what else you came up with here...I see you couldn’t get it done in one post, but hey...I’m open to see what you have to say...

Ain’t that nice of me...


45 posted on 11/27/2010 4:21:52 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: basil
It was stupid.

Rendell waited until the legislative session ended before vetoing a bill that passed the legislature by an overwhelming veto-proof margin.

When this passes next year -- and a veto-proof margin will not be needed since Corbett is expected to be willing to sign it -- Pa. will have a stand-your-ground law much better than most states by far.

So it is pretty stupid to diss Pa on this.

46 posted on 11/27/2010 4:24:29 PM PST by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: John D

I wouldn’t vote for Huckabee but I won’t go that far! Huck at least is a good conservative on social issues while “Fast Eddy” scores a ZERO in my book in ALL categories!


47 posted on 11/27/2010 4:24:54 PM PST by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

How could Pennsylvanians NOT want to defend themselves?

Glad I don’t live there.


48 posted on 11/27/2010 4:27:07 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: freedomwarrior998

Session is over. Margin doesn’t matter. Bill has to be reintroduced.


49 posted on 11/27/2010 4:27:07 PM PST by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: 4rcane

That’s why we have civil and criminal courts!


50 posted on 11/27/2010 4:27:33 PM PST by T.L.Sink
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