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Wash. Post tears into Israeli airport security checks that profile Arabs
American Thinker ^ | 11/27/10 | Lee Rennert

Posted on 11/27/2010 7:02:11 PM PST by Nachum

The headline and lead paragraph of Jerusalem correspondent Janine Zacharia's Nov. 27 article might lead readers of the Washington Post to believe that they're about to find out why many in the aviation industry consider Israel's screening of passengers the gold standard in airport security measures. ("Israeli air security is easy on most, intrusive for a few" page A7).

But they would be wrong. Because, it turns out, the bulk of her article is a full-bore attack on Israel's profiling methods, including special scrutiny of Arab travelers..

The result of such profiling, Zacharia reports, is that most travelers pass through airport security with "relative ease." "But," she emphasizes, and this is the real purport of her story, "But Israeli personnel do single out small numbers of passengers for extensive searches and screening, based on profiling methods that have so far been rejected in the United States, subjecting Arabs and, in some cases, other foreign nationals to an extensive screening that comes with a deep civil liberties price."

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airport; israeli; post; tsa; tsapervs; wash; washpost
Poor babies. Here's a rattle. Time for your bottle.
1 posted on 11/27/2010 7:02:14 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Idiot self-hating leftists would rather we all had gloved hands shoved up our genitalia than admit that a people group is more likely to have traits that others do not.

These people are cancer.


3 posted on 11/27/2010 7:05:55 PM PST by Christian Engineer Mass
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

Sop a few Arabs are suffering the loss of Civil Liberties instead of everyuone else on the planet.

Tuff Stuff.


4 posted on 11/27/2010 7:07:53 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Nachum

Sorry...

My lil wee violin is at the cleaners...

Have a tissue...


6 posted on 11/27/2010 7:11:07 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Nachum
Meanwhile in other news,
This 68 year old Amish Grandmother like the ones being
strip searched at airports across the country was
caught trying to blow up a local Christmas tree lighting festival.

Ms.Janet Napolitano, Head of Homeland Security exclaimed,
See. The airport program is working.

7 posted on 11/27/2010 7:12:20 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Nachum

Having not read the Washington Post story it would seem nothing more than a standard hit piece against Israel that WAPO and NYT are so famous for.

It must be like living in hell when you are a WAPO journalist who hates the USA and Israel so much that loving a Muslim Terrorist is the alternative.

The hatred of the left is so deep.


8 posted on 11/27/2010 7:16:02 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Nachum
Howz them Arab civil liberties in Arab nations eh?

American mass media should be dimantled and assign news reports to the fourteenth name listed on the 204th page of every city phone book in America that prints one.

The outcome would have to be a substantial improvement.

9 posted on 11/27/2010 7:16:16 PM PST by blackdog
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To: Nachum

Police use profiling to narrow search for suspects.

Doctors use racial profiling to pin point genetic diseases.

Many universities use racial profiling to balance student admissions.

But airport security can not use profiling to reduce inconvenience for 95% of air travellers?


10 posted on 11/27/2010 7:24:06 PM PST by Undocumented_capitalist (Obama is the killer in chief of every aborted fetus.)
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To: Nachum

Israelis see it as acceptable. Even Israel’s leftist Supreme Court has never had a problem with profiling at Ben-Gurion.


11 posted on 11/27/2010 7:29:39 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Undocumented_capitalist

But airport security can not use profiling to secure the safety of all air travelers?


12 posted on 11/27/2010 7:30:57 PM PST by B4Ranch (I have never met one, not one Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism.)
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To: Nachum; blackdog; Venturer; DaveTesla

Our society allows police to subject individuals to even abusive intrusions when such actions are deemed reasonable responses to actions. They stop a speeding car. They search persons and property with reasonable suspicion based on specific and demonstrable facts. They subdue and even kill a citizen in response to escalating levels of violence. Such responses are not a violation of civil liberties, but a precondition for securing the civil liberties of innocent citizens.

Israel uses proven probability and statistics to direct approaches this author wants condemned as profiling. Civil liberties are not violated when enhanced surveillance methods focus on human actions and characteristics denoting responses with a higher probability for terrorist actions.


13 posted on 11/27/2010 7:39:07 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: goldstategop

I have never had a problem with profiling women in burkas or rugriders who hate America.


14 posted on 11/27/2010 7:39:12 PM PST by B4Ranch (I have never met one, not one Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism.)
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To: Retain Mike

Well said, yet Shakespear to swine. You need to abandon that language style of old and get with the Newspeak.


15 posted on 11/27/2010 7:42:23 PM PST by blackdog
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To: Nachum

Without statistics science and medicine could not progress.


16 posted on 11/27/2010 7:44:35 PM PST by NoLibZone (Homosexuals oppose diversity.)
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To: Nachum

Stop the madness!


17 posted on 11/27/2010 7:45:28 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Nachum

Israeli airport security shouldn’t profile Arabs. They should profile all muzzies


18 posted on 11/27/2010 7:45:58 PM PST by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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To: Nachum

Here is a great profile question for Israel.

Do you like the the Washington post?

If Yes then sorry you can’t fly here because you are a security risk.


19 posted on 11/27/2010 7:50:25 PM PST by Revel
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To: Nachum

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20 posted on 11/27/2010 7:51:14 PM PST by wild74
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To: DaveTesla
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21 posted on 11/27/2010 8:01:20 PM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Nachum

“Sadly, Zacharia doesn’t even bother to recognize that her political correctness doesn’t yield any practical measures to sift out possible terrorists among air travelers.”

This can serve as a good definition of “Stuck on stupid”.


22 posted on 11/27/2010 8:06:47 PM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: blackdog

Sorry, but I guess I am just too old. That is the way the books I read speak to me, and they seem to dictate the way I write. But you do definitely have a point. I am trying to do better, because I have gotten comments that my letters to the editor could be easier to read. In this case when the letter is basically the one I send to our senators and representatives your analogy is particularly appropriate.


23 posted on 11/27/2010 8:25:59 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: Nachum

The WaCompost is starting with the whine and cheese parade early, because they KNOW that once President Palin is sworn in in just over two years, the TSA porno gropers will be out of work, and our new airport security system based on profiling WILL be be modeled after the Israeli system.


24 posted on 11/27/2010 9:16:15 PM PST by Babu
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To: Nachum

Profiling EVERYONE as a potential terrorist to be “fair” is just mind-blowingly idiotic. WHich is why liberals love it.

Profiling based on experience and by the groups of people known to be the ones causing trouble is the pinnacle of common sense security.

Libtards are just such morons. It just proves their concept of fairness is to make EVERYONE a criminal, make EVERYONE have a shitty experience. Not do what actually works or is a much more logical, efficient, and successful way to do security. Or anything else for that matter.


25 posted on 11/27/2010 9:47:21 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: B4Ranch

Profiling will make flying much safer. Note that all attacks used by terrorists were new methods of smuggling weapons & explosives on aircraft. TSA is fighting yesterdays war. Whereas profiling never gets old. All terrorists can be defined by half a dozen criteria. And those criteria would instantly eliminate 95% of travellers.


26 posted on 11/27/2010 10:28:54 PM PST by Undocumented_capitalist (Obama is the killer in chief of every aborted fetus.)
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To: Undocumented_capitalist

Yup. All the TSA is doing is locking the barn after the terrorists have used a particular approach they won’t use again. Its reactive. The terrorists are laughing themselves to death that America is slowly being suffocated to death by its politically correct and increasingly absurd restrictions on travel. What they do is a minor inconvenience to them but its a burdensome harassment of American travelers.


27 posted on 11/27/2010 11:13:23 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Retain Mike

Well, yes.
Does that mean you didn’t like my humor?


28 posted on 11/27/2010 11:36:41 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Retain Mike

Well, yes.
Does that mean you didn’t like my humor?


29 posted on 11/27/2010 11:44:22 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Undocumented_capitalist

Tell DHS and TSA not a fellow FReeper.


30 posted on 11/28/2010 11:53:50 AM PST by B4Ranch (I have never met one, not one Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism.)
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To: B4Ranch

I hope TSA & especially DHS read FR.


31 posted on 11/28/2010 12:09:51 PM PST by Undocumented_capitalist (Obama is the killer in chief of every aborted fetus.)
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To: Nachum; DaveTesla; blackdog; Venturer

I apologize for my post. There was a nagging voice I did not listen to that kept saying you are not getting this right. Even with my diminished brain stem capacity at 64 for experiencing basic male reactions, I should have been able to note the humor in the situation, before going on to discuss the people directly involved.

There is a world of difference between our detached observation of the situation, and the capacity granted by present law to indulge instinctual reactions. I am sorry I did not provide that balanced assessment.


32 posted on 11/28/2010 1:56:30 PM PST by Retain Mike
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33 posted on 11/29/2010 5:30:19 AM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: Nachum

The more I read about the Israeli system the more I like it. But we might have to invent a special visa to let young Israelis come fill the TSA positions if we want it implemented well.


34 posted on 11/29/2010 5:35:42 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Nachum

Did it ever dawn on them that in Saudi Arabia they profile “everyone” who is not am Arab?

Just like the TSA does.


35 posted on 11/29/2010 5:41:26 AM PST by Chief901 (Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

I think it absolutely UNTHINKABLE that you would actually target the very people responsible for terrorism!!!!
We should ALL take our turns being checked just to be fair.
(Mega-Sarcasm).


36 posted on 11/29/2010 6:06:39 AM PST by ZULU (No nation which tried to tolerate Islam escaped Islamization.)
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To: Nachum

I’m all for profiling... and we’ve got a lot to learn from the Israelis. But they do have some advantages that we just don’t have here in the U.S.

For one... Israel has almost no domestic flights. Almost all of El-Al’s flights are international, which means they’ve got passports— and travel history— instantly available for every passenger all the time. That’s a big difference. That’s a big part of the profile.


37 posted on 11/29/2010 6:20:19 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: SJackson

World’s Shortest Response: (gesture with one finger)


38 posted on 11/29/2010 11:40:54 AM PST by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: SJackson; Nachum

I fit an Israeli security profile and have been subject to their work at the airport: They’ve always been thorough and professional, unlike our TSA. I’d rather fly El Al and have to arrive at the airport 4 hours early to have my bags thoroughly searched, then go thru the US system. I know they do this for the safety of ALL passengers.

For what it’s worth, here’s the security profile I fit: I’m a single, gentile woman who speaks a little Hebrew and who has traveled on her own in Israel. Back in the 70’s women like me were often tricked into carrying bombs onto planes for the Palestinians; one was even pregnant with the Palestinian’s baby when he asked her to take a radio back to his mother in the US. I’m posting this to show that not all profiling is based on race.


39 posted on 11/29/2010 12:21:07 PM PST by JoyjoyfromNJ (Psalm 121)
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To: Ramius

Would it not be more convenient to all if we provided TSA the information that a passport gives them before we fly? They don’t even have the information that the Customs service requires.


40 posted on 11/29/2010 1:11:08 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: RobbyS

That’s because there’s a huge difference between domestic and international flights. We don’t have the same requirements for domestic travel as there are for international travel. Nor should there be.


41 posted on 11/29/2010 4:59:18 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius

Better than this nonsense. I have a passport, BTW.


42 posted on 11/29/2010 5:09:21 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: RobbyS

I don’t think we need to go to the place where we’re requiring passports for domestic travel. Even if we did... they’re less useful for that anyway, since domestic travel hops aren’t recorded in passports.

I would like to see some of the other Israeli methods take hold here though. For example: Israeli security begins at curbside. They have agents wandering the airport even outside the secure areas, just watching people and observing them, sometimes approaching and chatting them up. Some of the agents are more obvious (like the ones with dogs) and some are plainclothes to look just like another traveler. They become fairly expert at observing people and noticing the little differences between what ordinary travelers look like, talk like, and act like— and what “just doesn’t look right”. This is real “screening”. Sure... there’s “profiling” going on, but it’s not racial profiling— it’s terrorist profiling.

They’ve got the same agents milling around inside the security checkpoints, too. In the gate areas... in the restaurants, bars, shops... some of them are obvious, even in uniform, and some of them are not so obvious. A plainclothes officer may sidle up to a traveler and make some kind of smalltalk while looking at the departures screens... or chat somebody up in the bar... or in the chairs in the gate area.

All the while they’re looking for that person that just isn’t like all the others. That guy with something ominous on his mind. And make no mistake— the guy who’s about to do something that will result in his death has some pretty serious sh!7 on his mind. He’ll stand out like a beacon in the night if you’re paying attention and looking for the right things.

The TSA could easily be training up some folks to do this stuff. It’s not hard. It doesn’t even take all that much training. Most of the best training would be on the job anyway. After a few months we could have thousands of profiling experts out there. Hell— put me in charge and I’ll do it.


43 posted on 11/29/2010 6:38:04 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius

Well, yes, but obviously those who run TSA are driven by the fear that they will be accused of “discriminating.” In our society this is the same as blasphemy in former times.


44 posted on 11/29/2010 10:55:18 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Figment

Israeli’s don’t really profile based on the Arab ethnicity... they profile based on terrorist actions and behavior.

It just so happens that most Arab Muslims also act like terrorists.

Funny that no one dare speak that bit of information...


45 posted on 11/30/2010 2:22:43 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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