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America’s Grim Options on North Korea
Pajamas Media ^ | November 28, 2010 | John Parker

Posted on 11/28/2010 6:23:35 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
“.....serious pressure on mainland China to intervene with Pyongyang.”

China holds roughly $850 billion in USA Treasury debt.

Inform China we will default on those debts if they block our attempts to de-nuke North Korea.

21 posted on 11/28/2010 1:22:23 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Kaslin

This is precisely why we need an OBAMA/CARTER ticket in 2012! So we can show the MoFo NoKo’s what real men can do. /sarc


22 posted on 11/28/2010 1:31:56 PM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Yeah, that’s the impression I got as well.


23 posted on 11/28/2010 2:15:18 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Kaslin
Excellent article, but John McCain ? The man who suspended a winning political campaign just to vote on the emergency stimulus package. A man who claimed Obama would be a good President. If that is the best man we have to pull this off, it is not gonna happen. At any rate, any good plan can be wrecked by one simple mistake.

South Korea accidentally fires shell, military says

(CNN) -- The South Korean military accidentally fired a shell during a land-based military exercise Sunday afternoon, a South Korean military spokesman told CNN.

The country's defense ministry declined to provide details about the land exercise.

24 posted on 11/28/2010 2:20:09 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Bean Counter

” Either we act preemptively as the author suggests, or we wait until North Korea attacks the South and probably Japan as well. “

IF the North takes over the South the Commies will be 75 miles from the Japanese shores @ Kyushu , where I happen to live .


25 posted on 11/28/2010 2:27:03 PM PST by sushiman
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To: Non-Sequitur

Hopefully, Obama, Clinton and their advisors agree with you.

Bill Kristol started out sounding hawkish on Korea this morning but then said he favors “covert” actions on our part, not sure specifically what. But he also omitted deferring to So. Korea leadership, the most important point you make.

I wonder why no progress has ever been made in a resistance movement within No. Korea, the same for Iran. Isn’t this what CIA is for?


26 posted on 11/28/2010 2:58:47 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: justa-hairyape
At any rate, any good plan can be wrecked by one simple mistake.

Yep. And living on the U.S. west coast, in a target city, I pay especial attention.

27 posted on 11/28/2010 3:00:47 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: sushiman

I understand, and I would respectfully suggest that the Japanese Government and the Japanese People are very upset about what is going on as well, and have a lot more reason to be worried than we do Stateside. One of the scenarios I hear discussed here Stateside is the likelihood of a North Korean attack against the Japanese Islands at the same time they storm into Seoul.

We’re living in relative safety from an attack by the North Koreans but the Japanese are definitely not. The Norks don’t need an ICBM to reach you...


28 posted on 11/28/2010 3:09:10 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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To: La Enchiladita
Bill Kristol started out sounding hawkish on Korea this morning but then said he favors “covert” actions on our part, not sure specifically what.

Who could Kristol's covert action put into power that isn't as bad as what's already there?

I wonder why no progress has ever been made in a resistance movement within No. Korea, the same for Iran. Isn’t this what CIA is for?

Fear. No leader to rally around. Sixty years of indoctrination. All of the above.

29 posted on 11/28/2010 3:09:14 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: La Enchiladita

Unless you live in Seattle, you’re not in a target city even though you’re on the West Coast. The Nork’s longest-range rocket CAN hit Seattle, but no farther. Even Portland is just outside maximum range, IIRC.


30 posted on 11/28/2010 3:09:36 PM PST by hoagy62 (.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Who could Kristol's covert action put into power that isn't as bad as what's already there?

His reaction to that question was, they couldn't be any worse!! Oh, Please.

No. Korea, as the article says, is the ultimate rogue state. NO ONE LIKES THEM. They have no friends. This makes them even more dangerous.

31 posted on 11/28/2010 3:13:14 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: hoagy62

Sushiman has more to worry about...


32 posted on 11/28/2010 3:14:57 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

Got that right....not to mention ‘AmericaninTokyo’ and ‘TigerLikesRooster’...


33 posted on 11/28/2010 3:17:06 PM PST by hoagy62 (.)
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Who could Kristol's covert action put into power that isn't as bad as what's already there?

The Chinese leadership likely has this all set. Just a matter of negotiating with US, JApan, s.Korea, etc. More than likely a Chinese surrogate leadership will still be better than what they have now. Those people are brainless. We've all seen the mindset of the N.Korean populace. There is no way they can goveren themselves apart from some sort of dictatorship model to worship. So initially that is what will have to be. They've been stuck in time for so long they have no clue what the rest of the world is doing...or it's advances, for the past 50 yrs.. Interesting is when you view the videos on you tube and look at the furniture, hairstyles, manner of clothing, shoes vehicles, and the buildings interiors....you see they are stuck in the fifties and sixties. There best hotels would rate lower than our lower end hotels.

34 posted on 11/28/2010 3:28:38 PM PST by caww
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35 posted on 11/28/2010 3:32:13 PM PST by sushiman
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To: Kaslin

Increase our nuclear stockpile by an order of magnitude and nuke N Korea into the stone age. Simple solution.


36 posted on 11/28/2010 4:26:33 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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Increase our nuclear stockpile by an order of magnitude

Seems hardly worth the expense. I assume just a couple old nukes headed for the obsolete pile could pretty much make NK totally irrelevant.

37 posted on 11/28/2010 4:28:55 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: AmericanInTokyo

mmmm .... mmmmmmmm ........ mmmmmmmmmm


38 posted on 11/28/2010 7:11:01 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: hoagy62
We will withstand the blast, but it sure will not be pleasant when coming up above ground three months later.
39 posted on 11/28/2010 7:20:27 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (There is a lot "GOING DOWN" these days. But don't forget the Senate AMNESTY PUSH for next MONDAY!!!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

It’d be pretty easy for commandos (South Korean) to head into China, then cross the Yalu like all the defectors (only in reverse). Once in North Korea, plant explosives on the few rail lines into/out of China.

You blow them up and you eliminate most trade into North Korea. Then, for good measure, South Korean subs could then sink all the North Korean merchant vessels (there aren’t that many) outside of their communication range.

Finally, and probably the most at risk of getting caught, would be to blow the North Koreans dams, flooding their agriculture.

After that, you see a county about to undergo the worst famine possible (and this from a country used to starving)... with no ability to import anything. And while they may suspect that South Korea did it, there’d be no proof.

And if we look back, the Norks were the most cooperative during their last great famine in the mid-90’s.


40 posted on 11/29/2010 12:25:02 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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