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Democratic South finally falls
Politico ^ | November 28,2010 | JONATHAN MARTIN

Posted on 11/28/2010 4:09:44 PM PST by Hojczyk

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51 posted on 11/28/2010 5:55:42 PM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: Hojczyk

The South today, the rest of the country tomorrow.

Here’s a list of the most vulnerable Dem Senate candidates in 2012.

Ben Nelson Nebraska

Bill Nelson Florida

Herb Kohl Wisconsin

Kent Conrad North Dakota

Claire McCaskill Missouri

Jim Webb Virginia

Bob Casey Pennsylvania

Debbie Stabenow Michigan

Jon Tester Montana

Jeff Bingaman New Mexico


52 posted on 11/28/2010 5:58:14 PM PST by Atlantan
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To: butterdezillion

“Those 2 graphs together should give everybody a very clear picture of where we’re at and how we got here - and it should forever retire the myth that the democrat party is anything but communist.”

Your graphs represent a much delayed reaction, to what many have known since the 60s.


53 posted on 11/28/2010 6:00:06 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Happy Rain

Now NO Republican can win a national race WITHOUT the South.

The demogogue party has been aware of that for some time now, that’s why they ran liberal southerners - which do not represent the real south - such as Carter and Clinton. Both were subversive liars, good enough to fool many southerners into voting for them. I think the south has learned a lesson...I hope.


54 posted on 11/28/2010 6:02:07 PM PST by sasportas
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To: sasportas
I think the south has learned a lesson...I hope.

There are many lessons to be learned. The Republican Party, I hope, has learned a lesson with McCain, who made very disparaging remarks about southern evangelicals. It cost him, it cost the party.

You want to run a Democrat with an (R) by his or her name, especially one that disdains the south and southerners, you'll have your hat handed to you.

That's a lesson learned courtesy of the south ... I hope.

55 posted on 11/28/2010 6:08:53 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: sasportas

We moved from the wild West to the South and have never regretted it. These people are civil, capable, intelligent and peaceful and gentle. In the West, I lived across the street from a meth lab. When I came home from work, I got out of my car w/my gun drawn. In the South, I don’t even think about carrying a gun. My neighbors are no shrinking violets—they raise hunting dogs and could shoot the eye out of a sparrow—but we have been safe among them. Who on earth would want them to change? Give me the Bible belt and it’s people ANY day of the week. It’s a slice of Heaven on earth.


56 posted on 11/28/2010 6:10:35 PM PST by Silentgypsy
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To: Paleo Conservative; deport

Thanks for setting me straight. I was so excited about the large majority we now have in the house...I assumed we didn’t have the majority until this election. Yippee...someone said on a thread now that Perry has such a large majority he can now govern more conservative. Which I think is BS...


57 posted on 11/28/2010 6:47:06 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: butterdezillion

58 posted on 11/28/2010 6:56:45 PM PST by csmusaret (Q: How do they say incompetent failure in Kenya? A: Barack Obama)
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To: Bryanw92

these threads bring out the ignorance...it’s a sad fact of the forum


59 posted on 11/28/2010 7:08:02 PM PST by wardaddy ("Out Here" by Josh Thompson pretty much says it all to those who will never understand anyhow)
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To: seoul62

Oh we dont.You are welcome down here in the south and you can marry our women too but your young guns will speak with a southern accent.That ok with you?:)


60 posted on 11/28/2010 7:12:56 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Hojczyk

*Phew* For a second there I thought this thread was about Korea.


61 posted on 11/28/2010 7:14:19 PM PST by dfwgator (Congratulations to Josh Hamilton - AL MVP)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Good for you guys.That will do more to hold the line than you know.We just had our first election here in Georgia where it was mandated everyone had to show ID to vote.The communist got their asses handed to them.I love OBUMMER dont you?


62 posted on 11/28/2010 7:17:14 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: elpadre

We just had a family move back to new hamshire ,from here in Georgia, this week.The voted for obama and they both lost their respective jobs.I feel sorry for the kids though.


63 posted on 11/28/2010 7:22:27 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat; wardaddy

“In the United States, the conservative coalition was an unofficial Congressional coalition bringing together the conservative majority of the Republican Party and the conservative, mostly Southern, minority of the Democratic Party. It was influential in the United States Congress from 1937 to 1961 and remained a political force until the mid 1980s, eventually dying out in the 1990s.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_coalition


64 posted on 11/28/2010 7:22:52 PM PST by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: sasportas

HEAR,HEAR!


65 posted on 11/28/2010 7:26:13 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: csmusaret

There it is. Thank you.

The chart showing the polling effect of the Sept 18th run on the bank can be seen at http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/08-us-pres-ge-mvo.php?nr=1


66 posted on 11/28/2010 7:26:55 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Bryanw92

Dogged determination! Thats what I like to see and hear.Good job!


67 posted on 11/28/2010 7:33:12 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: sasportas

YOU BETCHA


68 posted on 11/28/2010 7:35:06 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: butterdezillion

69 posted on 11/28/2010 7:40:58 PM PST by csmusaret (Q: How do they say incompetent failure in Kenya? A: Barack Obama)
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To: csmusaret

Thanks. A picture is worth a thousand words, and that one is worth even more than that.

What the graph can’t show, though, is the destabilization that has come with that blue line. It’s even beyond what statistical numbers can show, except maybe the huge democrat losses this election.

I used to not understand how one day could change everything in an economy. What could be so different one day than it was the day before? I don’t think it happens in one day, but there’s a tipping point at which everybody all of a sudden recognizes the vulnerability. Our entire economic system is built on trust. If people can trust the system they can rebuild. If not, they will not rebuild even if they could, because they don’t know whether everything will be taken away from them anyway. And that’s where we’re at.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac built an economy on the lie of calling unstable loans “secured”. As if reality changes just by somebody SAYING it’s changed. As if you have more real value just because you print more money. The whole thing is just a big lie, and the people who broke the system with their lies are still doing it, as if the lies are the cure rather than the disease.

These politicians mock our trust, except when they need to beg for our votes. Once they got what they wanted from us they treat us like a one-night stand. But trust is literally what runs our economy. When business owners have no expectation that government will let them succeed, they will not trust to hire people.

Trust is a vital ingredient but it’s hard to chart it with stats. That’s where I think we’re really hurting, and the glib politicians like Pelosi just don’t seem to get it. It’s like they don’t speak our language.


70 posted on 11/28/2010 7:57:28 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

The Good Lord made and Blessed me as a Woman, sorry if I did not make that clear. I traveled through the South a while ago and my following observations: People were down home, Sweet and Friendly, the Men were courteous and polite and they Love Jesus Christ, which I say a big thumbs up on!!! The people of the South will always be special to me.


71 posted on 11/28/2010 8:02:11 PM PST by seoul62
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To: LdSentinal

Remember this:

Daddy was a veteran, a southern democrat
They oughta get a rich man to vote like that


72 posted on 11/28/2010 8:12:54 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (NO MOS-que AP: It's the "GROUND ZERO MOSQUE")
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To: csmusaret

It workes exactly like obama and the Democrats desin=gned it to.


73 posted on 11/28/2010 8:18:08 PM PST by sport
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To: seoul62

So, whats keepin ya?:)


74 posted on 11/28/2010 8:22:09 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Because My Husband, who I love dearly is a New York City Liberal. He loves the City.


75 posted on 11/28/2010 8:38:25 PM PST by seoul62
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To: Bryanw92

Exactly. Why should Southerners vote for a party that palpably hates their guts?


76 posted on 11/28/2010 8:40:36 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: sasportas
the greater influence of the Bible on southerners

So, why are American Blacks such left wingers? They're practically mirror reflections of white Southerners in their Biblicism. Yet not only do they vote for far left candidates, their churches seem to produce only far leftists so far as politics is concerned.

77 posted on 11/28/2010 8:43:28 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vayo'mer Par`oh 'el-`avadayv; "Hanimtza' khazeh, 'ish 'asher ruach 'Eloqim bo?")
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To: seoul62

You have your work cut out for you then.:)Take care FRiend.


78 posted on 11/28/2010 8:43:42 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Pelham

deaf ears my friend

many here like the Glenn Beck Cliff Notes version of history

it’s just simpler and easier to swallow

inaccurate?

who knew?


79 posted on 11/28/2010 11:46:51 PM PST by wardaddy ("Out Here" by Josh Thompson pretty much says it all to those who will never understand anyhow)
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To: wild74; Clintonfatigued; goldstategop; fieldmarshaldj

Those county posts are even more stubborn than state legislatures.

Many a legislative chamber once rat a few cycles ago they now have no chance in. Okalahoma, Missouri, the rats ca fagetabout them.

We still need to bring hope and change to LA, MS, and AR (and poor WV). LA and MS have elections next year.


80 posted on 11/29/2010 4:14:55 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Southerners should’ve stopped voting Democratic decades ago

Black Southerners should’ve stopped voting Democratic decades ago

Fixed it.

81 posted on 11/29/2010 6:53:13 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: sasportas
I think the south has learned a lesson...I hope.

Do you know what you're talking about?

BTW, where are you from?

82 posted on 11/29/2010 7:00:26 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I’m not going to even try to explain, I doubt Jewish conspirators would understand.


83 posted on 11/29/2010 9:06:46 AM PST by sasportas
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To: cowboyway

I don’t know what I am talking about? With a name like Cowboy, I suppose you are from the west, why would you being from the west make you an expert on the south? I’m sure you know what you are talking about.

Another question, what is it about me saying I hope the south has learned a lesson in voting for lying demogogues like Carter and Clinton, that disturbs you so much?

By the way, here’s a riddle for you, assuming you are a cowboy from the west, I’m from further west...and south, than you.


84 posted on 11/29/2010 9:14:20 AM PST by sasportas
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To: sasportas
I’m not going to even try to explain, I doubt Jewish conspirators would understand.

I'm not Jewish, I'm a Southerner, and I still don't understand.

85 posted on 11/29/2010 11:28:32 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vayo'mer Par`oh 'el-`avadayv; "Hanimtza' khazeh, 'ish 'asher ruach 'Eloqim bo?")
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To: sasportas
I don’t know what I am talking about?

Correct. You don't know what you're talking about.

First of all, research Southern demographics. Some states are almost 40% black, a populace that consistently block votes for dems.

Second, the first Clinton election was heavily swayed by the Perot factor. Perot got >19% of the vote in that one.

. Third, look at a redstate/bluestate map of 1996 and you'll conclude that most of the Southern states voted for Dole. It was the left coast/northeast libs that carried the day for Clinton in 1996. Once again, Perot was a factor in this election to the tune of >9% of the vote.

So I ask you, what lesson does the South need to learn? That we need to repeal the 15th Amendment? That peanut farmers are ineligible for the presidency? That secession is the only way we're ever going to rid ourselves of left coast/northeast libtards?

With a name like Cowboy, I suppose you are from the west,

No, I'm from the South. South Carolina, to be precise.

Now, where are you from?

86 posted on 11/29/2010 2:47:40 PM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: butterdezillion

“Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac built an economy on the lie of calling unstable loans “secured”.”

It wasn’t Fannie and Freddie despite how often that canard gets repeated. Fannie and Freddie dealt in conforming paper, which means downpayments and proof of earnings. They continued to insist on conforming loans during the bubble and as a result lost market share to the firms that were peddling toxic paper. Fannie and Freddie’s problem was their sheer size and the fact that their industry was in a huge bubble.


87 posted on 11/29/2010 3:06:08 PM PST by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: Hojczyk

Isn’t it funny how the writer was able to find a pony in all the Horse shi- at the end of the article?


88 posted on 11/29/2010 3:39:53 PM PST by billhilly
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To: rushmom

“I hope these party switchers are not just opportunists. They are not just “while males” down there either. Bobby Jindal is not a white male.”

Having been close to politics at the national level for four decades, I can assure you that opportunism has played a role in both parties as long as most of us have been alive. As an example, Virginia had not elected a Republican Governor in 88 years when Linwood Holton was elected in 1968. It wasn’t that Virginia was not a conservative state. It was. The Byrd machine, headed by Harry Flood Byrd Senior, and later his son, Harry F. Byrd, Jr insisted on “pay as you go” in Virginia. It was Holton who broke the tradition when he championed a $83,000,000 statewide bond issue for schools. Interestingly, The Chairman of the DNC, and former Virginia Governor, Tim Kane, (D-Va) is Holton’s son-in-law.

Many politicians that I have personally known have lamented that they couldn’t have been elected, had they not run as an (R) or a (D), depending on where they came from.


89 posted on 11/29/2010 3:58:33 PM PST by billhilly
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