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My Personal “Pat-Down” Experience
AIPNews.com ^ | November 28, 2010 | Kristia Cavere

Posted on 11/28/2010 8:15:40 PM PST by EternalVigilance

The images on television of children, the elderly, and other individuals who pose zero threat to our aviation security experiencing “pat-downs” by TSA officials at airports is disturbing. This issue became personal to me as I was forced into a pat-down and threatened that I would never get through security until I complied, and I now believe that these demeaning acts are unconstitutional.

At O’Hare airport, returning to the east coast after the Thanksgiving holiday, I purposefully stood in the long line for regular metal detectors rather than the much shorter line of those willing to go through the full-body scanners (which show graphic nude pictures including all private parts). These full-body scanners are an illusion of security, which squanders our time, money, and civil liberties. They do not detect explosives or plastic, only metal, which makes them a very expensive metal detector.

I had read Dr. Jane Orient’s, Executive Director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, latest article, “The Medical Problems of Airport Screening.” She wrote, “The radiation dose is likely the least of the problems with airport screening,” as the airport full-body scanners use low-energy backscatter technology. This kind of scanner is effective for detecting explosives in cargo, but because this radiation doesn’t penetrate far it concentrates in the skin. This effect has not been properly studied, and Dr. Orient warns, “If you had a deadly disease, and the scanner were an FDA-regulated device that might save your life, your doctor wouldn’t be allowed to use it, because of inadequate study.”

I was also aware of the letter written to [Alleged] President Obama by University of California, San Francisco (UCSF) experts in biochemisty, biophysics, imaging, and oncology who warned of “the potential serious health risks” of the whole body scanners at airports. The scientists wrote that “real independent safety data do not exist” on the high doses that the scanners deposit into the skin.

As I was waiting on line and thinking of the many reasons why I would decline to go through a full-body scanner, a TSA official approached me and told me that I had been “randomly selected” for a pat-down. My family next to me was horrified, and the surrounding passengers were dumbfounded. I refused, and strongly pointed out that I was not opting out of the body scanner but that I was on line for the usual metal detector.

My protests were to no avail, and the TSA official grabbed my arms and forced me to walk unto a small carpet where the pat-downs were done. Threats of a lawsuit were ignored as a TSA officer began patting-down my arms and back, and then used their hands over and under my breasts. The most demeaning aspect of this intrusive experience was the pat-down of my groin and buttocks, in which the TSA officer moved their palms up my thigh, warning me that I would feel “tension” as their hands pressed upward against my crotch area.

America is moving toward a police state, under the guise of eliminating the risk of terrorism. But this false feeling of security is resulting in state-sponsored sexual harassment, and is clearly violating the Fourth Amendment’s restriction of “unreasonable searches and seizures.”

Israel has equal, if not more, security threats than America does at airports. Rafi Sela, former chief security officer of the Israel Airport Authority and with more than thirty years of experience, recently stated that body scanning machines are “useless,” which is why they are not in Israeli airports. Mr. Sela advocates the two security systems that are used in the airports in Israel: behavior profiling rather than “randomly selected” searches. And a “trusted traveler” system where pre-approved low-risk passengers go through an expedited process, and passengers with more risk are exposed to more security screenings.

When the September 11th Islamofascist terrorists used box-cutters, sharp objects were banned from carry-on luggage. When a terrorist attempted to use explosives in his sneakers, all passengers had to put their shoes through screening. When terrorists inserted explosives in printer cartridges, ink cartridges were banned. When another Islamofascist terrorist hid explosives in his underwear last December, the use of nude body scanners sharply increased. Last year in Saudi Arabia, a terrorist used their anal cavity for a bomb (albeit, not at an airport). Are body cavity searches next?

Incompetent left leaning politicians and bureaucrats are creating safety profiles to protect themselves from potential lawsuits and the politically correct press, but they are doing little to actually increase our safety. Profiling is done to eliminate crime, but the largest threat to people flying in airplanes, terrorism, is not subject to profiling at airports despite the decades of success such measures have had in countries such as Israel.

At the Dwight Eisenhower Presidential Museum, in the final room marking his legacy and leadership in war and peace, is a quote from Ike: “If all that Americans want is security, they can go to prison.” Americans have always valued freedom above all things. But a randomly generated invasive safety procedure, without concrete evidence that such procedures are correlated to positive safety results, become nothing more than harassment of American citizenry and an infringement upon our personal freedom.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; bloggers; cavere; fourthamendment; patdown; pimpmyblog; tsa; tsapervs

1 posted on 11/28/2010 8:15:44 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
..a TSA official approached me and told me that I had been “randomly selected” for a pat-down.

Random my a**. The pervs at TSA saw a young, slim, good looking blond, and wanted to cop a feel.

2 posted on 11/28/2010 8:23:06 PM PST by mnehring
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To: EternalVigilance
Israel has equal, if not more, security threats than America does at airports. Rafi Sela, former chief security officer of the Israel Airport Authority and with more than thirty years of experience, recently stated that body scanning machines are “useless,” which is why they are not in Israeli airports. Mr. Sela advocates the two security systems that are used in the airports in Israel: behavior profiling rather than “randomly selected” searches. And a “trusted traveler” system where pre-approved low-risk passengers go through an expedited process, and passengers with more risk are exposed to more security screenings.

I have stood in line for 3 hours to get through El Al's security. I'll give you one guess at El Al's trusted list. Hope for and you may get.....

3 posted on 11/28/2010 8:23:15 PM PST by ScreamingFist
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To: EternalVigilance
politicians and bureaucrats are creating safety profiles to protect themselves from potential lawsuits...

You can't sue the federal government unless they allow you to by sovereign immunity. They just want to bully and intimidate.
4 posted on 11/28/2010 8:26:40 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: EternalVigilance

Control the movement of a population, and you have put handcuffs on freedom. Food is the next target with the bill currently before the lame duck Congress. Take away personal property and the right to earn income and another freedom disappears. Yikes.
Traveling in January. Not going through enhanced screener because they’ll demand frisk anyway. May end up needing legal counsel.


5 posted on 11/28/2010 8:26:58 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: EternalVigilance

I’ll give you one other clue, American contractors having to call in country contractors, to pass security checks to go BACK to Israel. For some reason no one on FR mentions that Israel is a socialist Jewish State.


6 posted on 11/28/2010 8:28:57 PM PST by ScreamingFist
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To: ScreamingFist

Well, it looks like you just did.


7 posted on 11/28/2010 8:30:06 PM PST by EternalVigilance (There is nothing that Communists do better than winning in a morally relativistic universe.)
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To: ScreamingFist

I’ve seen this lie before, Israel is not Socialist, it is a free market capitalist state.


8 posted on 11/28/2010 8:30:22 PM PST by mnehring
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To: ScreamingFist

I got through very quickly. Even with my big heavy backpack. But I wasn’t on their “trusted” list, at least not the way I think you mean it. I just passed their behavioral profile.


9 posted on 11/28/2010 8:32:50 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: mnehring
I’ve seen this lie before, Israel is not Socialist, it is a free market capitalist state.

Yea, and Kibbutz don't exist either....

10 posted on 11/28/2010 8:33:09 PM PST by ScreamingFist
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My Personal Pat Boone Experience

11 posted on 11/28/2010 8:35:17 PM PST by woofie
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To: pacpam

This is a good time to be a gun owner. stock up on shells. stock up on food. make sure you keep your gas tank is near full as much as possible.

drive if possible. pay with cash while it is still worth something.


12 posted on 11/28/2010 8:36:37 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: ScreamingFist
The labor zionist party hasn't had power in decades and Matzpen has always been a extreme minority. Kibbutz is a freely chosen community similar to Catholic monastics- it is not a government required through undue collectivism. These are private communities.

There is a key difference between private groups who freely choose to live in such communal situations and public policy requiring everyone to be as such.

13 posted on 11/28/2010 8:38:54 PM PST by mnehring
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To: EternalVigilance

“America is moving toward a police state”

We have been here for about 10 years. Go to any small town in America where they are desperate for dollars. Small town cops have become revenue generators who they prey upon the public for cash.

To Protect and Serve has become To Harass and Ticket.


14 posted on 11/28/2010 8:38:59 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (DeMint/Ryan 2012!!!!!)
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To: ScreamingFist
I have stood in line for 3 hours to get through El Al's security.

I have never been on el Al but it seems to me that they would have to run a somewhat different operation at foreign airports than they do in Israel.

15 posted on 11/28/2010 8:41:01 PM PST by wideminded
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

btt


16 posted on 11/28/2010 8:45:20 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: mnehring

“There is a key difference between private groups who freely choose to live in such communal situations and public policy requiring everyone to be as such.”

I lived in Israel my friend. When they leave the commie farms, they still expect the state to take care of them......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz


17 posted on 11/28/2010 8:46:49 PM PST by ScreamingFist
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To: mnehring
You could be right.

The author, from her web page:

Does the TSA really think this woman, traveling with her family, could be a terrorist?

What a waste of resources.

18 posted on 11/28/2010 8:58:20 PM PST by BigBobber
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To: EternalVigilance
Threats of a lawsuit were ignored as a TSA officer began patting-down my arms and back, and then used their hands over and under my breasts.

I hope she makes good on her threat.

19 posted on 11/28/2010 9:01:54 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: EternalVigilance

Good defense of the Bill of Rights. A small question: where was this person from 2001 to 2009 when all too many conservatives were rationalizing violations of civil liberty with such catch-phrases as “The Constitution is not a suicide pact” and “eveything changed on 9-11?” Those who uphold the Bill of Rights now were largely MIA when Bush was in power. A rare exception is Ron Paul who voted against creation of the TSA when many conservatives were hysterical.


20 posted on 11/28/2010 9:03:56 PM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: ScreamingFist

There hasn’t been a “free market capitalist state” on this planet for over a century. Some folks will do anything to rationalize Israel’s failings.


21 posted on 11/28/2010 9:05:30 PM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: EternalVigilance

Q: What are the charges?
Q: Do you have a search warrant?
Q: I would like to speak to a legal representative.


22 posted on 11/28/2010 9:21:50 PM PST by conservativeimage.com (How come FR doesn't know how to spell Barack?)
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To: Captain Kirk
Some folks will do anything to rationalize Israel’s failings.

I'm not "rationalizing" squat. Israel's security works because they don't trust anyone that is "goy".

23 posted on 11/28/2010 9:28:46 PM PST by ScreamingFist
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To: BigBobber

Couple this with the other gal that was singled out due to her breast size and you have yet another isolated, unrelated indecent...

right???

/s


24 posted on 11/28/2010 9:35:03 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: EternalVigilance

“...the TSA official grabbed my arms...” Wh—a-t?

That’s an assault right there.


25 posted on 11/28/2010 9:38:02 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (My message to jack-boot "Pissy" Pistole....DON'T TREAD ON MY JUNK)
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To: Captain Kirk

“Some folks will do anything to rationalize Israel’s failings.”

Just in case you forgot what “Goy” means....

As noted, in the above-quoted Rabbinical literature the meaning of the word “goy” shifted the Biblical meaning of “a people” which could be applied to the Hebrews/Jews as to others into meaning “a people other than the Jews”. In later generations, a further shift left the word as meaning an individual person who belongs to such a non-Jewish people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goy


26 posted on 11/28/2010 9:44:33 PM PST by ScreamingFist
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To: EternalVigilance

“a quote from Ike: “If all that Americans want is security, they can go to prison.”

Love Ike. Miss Ike.


27 posted on 11/28/2010 9:54:21 PM PST by max americana
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To: mnehring

I thought only women TSA could pat down women. Is that not true?


28 posted on 11/28/2010 9:56:58 PM PST by Cedar
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To: EternalVigilance
“grabbed my arms’

When they did this the “screen er” committed assault. Call the police and demand to file charges.

29 posted on 11/28/2010 10:07:42 PM PST by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: pacpam
" Control the movement of a population, and you have put handcuffs on freedom. Food is the next target with the bill currently before the lame duck Congress. Take away personal property and the right to earn income and another freedom disappears. "

Prelude to 666 the mark of the beast ?
30 posted on 11/28/2010 10:14:32 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: ScreamingFist
I lived in Israel my friend. When they leave the commie farms, they still expect the state to take care of them......

I hate to say this about someone from the great state of Oklahoma (since I went to school in Texas ( : >), but re your whining about Kibbutzim and Israel being socialist, , the facts say that you're FOS.

Today some 270 kibbutzim, with memberships ranging from 40 to more than 1,000, are scattered throughout the country. Most of them have between 300 and 400 adult members, and a population of 500-600. The number of people living in kibbutzim totals approximately 130,000, about 2.5 percent of the country's population.

PS: "I have stood in line for 3 hours to get through El Al's security. I'll give you one guess at El Al's trusted list. Hope for and you may get....."

Oh what's the matter, they find out you're still P.O.'d you didn't "get laid"? Or did you "get laid" but the little Jewish girl you took advantage of wouldn't marry you?

Or was it all the visas for the arab countries that you visited that you had stamped in your passport?

Or maybe they read all the BS you write about Jews and Israel on FR and decided you were some Adam Kokesh type Paulistinian who needed to be delayed so they could watch you sweat and see if you had the balls to damage Israel in action as you try to do online?

You don't like the Israeli security system? Guess what, ITS BEEN IN INTERMITTENT USE BY DELTA IN AMSTERDAM and other Euro cities for flights BACK TO THE U.S. for years. It's not perfect but when it's implemented correctly, it's almost foolproof.

And except for some morons and terrorists, it's non-invasive, and doesn't need to radiate ALL AMERICANS like vegetables.

I don't know what your major malfunction is about Israel and their version of airline security, but maybe you should chill out and have a drink (or stop drinking...)

31 posted on 11/28/2010 10:18:38 PM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: mnehring

I skipped the flight and drove to Arizona. Between dental work and a lot of airline miles I’ve exceeded my annual radiation budget and... well, how would you like being “inspected” by the Homeland Security boys at SFO?

Going down was OK but coming back, Sunday traffic was an absolute mess. First everyone was pulled over by the Border Patrol on AZ-95 about 30 miles north of Yuma. Next I sat for over 2 hours on CA-58 between Barstow and Boron for no reason other than the fact that the light at the junction of CA-58 and US-395 was favoring the 395 traffic. It took 3 hours in stop-and-go traffic (mostly stop) on I5 to get from Butonwillow to Kettleman City - about 50 miles, and the traffic on I5 was the heaviest I’ve every seen all the way up. I don’t think I’m the only one who was avoiding the national grope-fest.


32 posted on 11/29/2010 2:11:52 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Anyone who has read Roman history knows a barbarian invasion when they see one in progress.)
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To: EternalVigilance
When air travel has become so obnoxious that it becomes a method of last resort, the airline industry will be in dangerous waters. We must be fully aware that the present screening methods will not detect the deep body implantation of explosives. So, as days go on and more Americans learn that air travel is the least desirable method of travel, the airline industry will descend into a fragile economic state. This will have played right into the hands of the Jihadist. They are thrilled the airlines have reacted with the extreme action they have taken. Jihadists want to effect the most harm to America's economy with the least amount of effort. This is the way to do it.

When the negative reaction to the airline industry has brought its maximum economic impact, any little event would be just the tipping point that would bring the industry down. Imagine the impact if Jihadists, loaded with explosives surgically implanted in their abdomens with detonators hidden in rib bones that could be triggered by a circuit embedded in cell phones. Imagine several of these human bombs boarding several planes on a new 9-11 and they all go off taking thousands of passengers to their deaths. We will blame the arrogant bureaucracy of the TSA for their lie to the American people that they were providing safety. They are not providing safety. They are perpetuating a fraud at the peril of the airline industry. Because, if that new 9-11 happens, the airline industry is cooked because everyone will realize that it was all a fraud. And, their fraud being exposed, how will they gain that trust again?

They will fall in economic ruin before they make the turn to the correct explosive detection technology. That technology must be able to focus on those chemicals involved in explosives. Molecular spectroscopy using a swept-frequency radar detection method is the direction we need to go. Trying to feel or through X-rays see hidden explosive devices is a fraud so criminal, I can't understand why there has not been court action on it. It is destined to fail, so why spend the unnecessary effort on it?

33 posted on 11/29/2010 2:30:22 AM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

I think it would be funny if someone showed up dressed as a girl, in the hopes of getting a female agent to for the “pat down”. Then, when she yelled “She’s got a gun in her pants”, the guy could yell back, “No, I’m just happy to see you”.


34 posted on 11/29/2010 6:05:26 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SpaceBar

35 posted on 11/29/2010 7:19:10 AM PST by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: Yehuda
Oh what's the matter, they find out you're still P.O.'d you didn't "get laid"? Or did you "get laid" but the little Jewish girl you took advantage of wouldn't marry you?

Errrr, I have no idea what you are babbling about, try to lay off the wine dude....

36 posted on 11/30/2010 5:39:09 PM PST by ScreamingFist
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To: EternalVigilance

Has Kristia Cavere filed assault charges against the TSA person for grabbing her out of the metal detector line and forcing her to go over to the patdown area?

Sounds like she wasn’t near the head of the line for the metal detector.

This @#$! has GOT to stop.

:(


37 posted on 12/10/2010 9:07:26 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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