Skip to comments.Wikileaks - Obama traded anti missile shield for Russian support
Posted on 11/29/2010 2:28:09 AM PST by maggief
President Obama cancelled anti-missile shield plans in Poland and the Czech Republic to get Russia support for UN sanctions against Iran, documents made public by Wikileaks reveal.
The whistle blowing web site, publishing diplomatic cables and other documents via The New York Times, the Guardian (UK) and other media outlets, show that George Bushs anti-missile shield plan to station 10 interceptor rockets in Poland not far from the Kaliningrad (Russia) border and a radar system in the Czech Republic was seen as an obstacle by Washington in getting tougher sanctions against Irans nuclear ambitions.
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Stupid. The Russians played him for a fool.
Geez, what a dumb f**k! Give up a shield that can protect us from the very people he wanted to have worthless sanctions placed against, Iran who has proven to not give a crap about sanctions. The very people the Russians were helping to get there in the first place.
Obama makes Chamberlain look like Patton!
I thought this was announced on FR years ago.
if this country reelects this guy it will never recover
wrong my FRiend. zero is out to destroy the US. He isnt a fool.
So much for smart diplomacy. Another big FAIL. Give up a card without getting anything in return.
I have always maintained, one man could not accomplish what you suggest.
I’m beginning to wonder.
I didn’t say he was or is a fool — I said he was played for a fool.
I say like Rush Limbaugh, this clown is doing all of these DESTRUCTIVE attacks on America on purpose.
The only real fools in this equation are the ones who don't see the need to impeach and then try this manure in Washington DC for treason.
oh it’s not one man.. he has tentacles massively multiplying throughout the governmental structures of the country..the Justice department, State department and the other major agencies are being loaded up with left wingers with an agenda of socializing the country and solidifying their power over the liberty and freedoms of the people
they now have almost complete control over the educational system in this country where they indoctrinate the masses from almost birth
when it gets to the point where the people in the United States of America know they are electing a socialist to the Presidency and don’t care it’s pretty much over at that point
Well, in this one case, I am glad the Wikileaks exposed Obama for the fool and traitor he is. Oh how the liberal media turned a blind eye in the Bush years when the NY Times published secret documents that embarrassed and harmed our military and the war effort in Iraq. Now they are getting it back in spades. Only this time it is the Messiah that is being exposed.
I think these wikileaks are a blessing, and I will tell you why
the ones involved will read/hear what should have been spoken, in words that are easy to understand, nothing veiled and left for interpretation.
it will knock this PC (political crap)on its ass
I know many will scream about who MIGHT be killed because of this, but think a little and figure out many HAVE been killed because of the lack for putting it all out in plain English
Just as we knew all along. Oboomba traded these defensive missiles away for nothing.
I wonder how much more nothing we’re going to get for ratifying the START Treaty. Hey, not so soon, Ivan! I’m still sore from the last time!
I hope this revelation stops START in its tracks.
Oh yes and then other memos show that the we knew Iran was way ahead of where we were saying publically. The “sanctions” were a farce. So Obama just scapped the missle defense for nothing or because he really wanted an excuse to scap the missle defense.
“The only real fools in this equation are the ones who don’t see the need to impeach and then try this manure in Washington DC for treason.”
Obama didn’t come in a vacuum. He came after the purposeful dumbing down of America, the packing of the courts, the infiltration of the House, the rise of the UN, and the ascension of the Federal Reserve.
This has been in the making for a long time. Obama’s just a useful tool, who will be discarded in due time.
Indeed it was, but now the proof is out rendering it more than conjecture.
Or maybe traded them for payoffs to his political supporters like G.E. http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKLH50324420090917
Really, it would be hard for the Russians to play him for anything else. This is the first directly damaging bit I’ve seen for Barry, though that tradeoff was the rumor at the time anyway.
Obama the poster child for dumb dangerous.world leader have a chump for easy pickings.
Compare him to Chamberlain? If Obama was in FDR’s place in 38-39 you would need a German English dictionary to translate this.
This dangerous dolt should not be allowed to make deals with anyone....especially not the far more intelligent Russians and Chinese. Keep him on the basketball court, where he feels superior, in spite of the 12 stitches in his motor mouth.
I knew it !
Everybody in Poland did too.
oh its not one man..
Thanks for validating!
It is the tentacles and puppet meisters we really need to worry about.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe it was ever revealed that there was an actual deal or trade with Russia.
During an April 2009 meeting, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov expressed concern that the missile shield would “[disrupt] the balance between the US and Russia’s nuclear potential.” He also stated that the US and Russia should work together on missile defense, but should start over “from scratch.”
“In a follow-on meeting, [Deputy Foreign Minister] Sergey Ryabkov stressed that while Russia was interested in working with the US on [missile defense (MD)], it would be difficult for Russia to join a U.S. MD effort that included sites in Poland and the Czech Republic, and urged that if the U.S. intended to pursue sites in Europe, they should be further west and south, so as to diminish the effect on Russian capabilities,” the leaked communiqué states.
There is precedent for the State Department having misrepresented the consequences of a treaty to the Senate, in writing. This could be a lot worse than the Senate could understand with but few exceptions.
When President Barack Obama took office, he unveiled a new policy of engagement with Iran, offering to talk with its leaders.
But at a meeting in Europe, an American envoy said “engagement alone is unlikely to succeed” and that the Obama administration was planning to surround Iran with economic sanctions and missile defenses.
To get China - which depends heavily on Iran for oil - to go along with sanctions, the U.S. apparently persuaded Saudi Arabia’s king to guarantee China it would make up any oil it lost from Iran. After Mr. Obama cancelled plans to station anti-missile defenses in Poland — defenses which Russia believed were directed against it - and place them on ships in the Mediterranean instead, Russia “indicated (its) willingness to move to the pressure track” - support sanctions, in other words.
“Some of these trades are embarrassing, some of them reveal deep interests that countries have and reveal things never intended to be public,” Zarate said.
IOW dump SDI completely or design it such that the Russians could render it inoperative. My take is that START is all about undoing what Reagan accomplished and returning us to MAD.
I thought this was announced on FR years ago.
You're right. Nothing new.
“Stupid. The Russians played him for a fool.”
And I’m sure that all the while he thought he was being oh so smart. It’s so predictable based on his background - a sophomoric and pathetically simplistic world view that never progressed beyond the pablum one gets in college, no real job after that, narcissism, and a basal misunderstanding of and distaste for America. When mixed together these ingredients pretty much told you what his administration would be like.
Obama came unarmed in a battle of wits.
I thought this was announced on FR years ago.
It may have been announced on FR, but if President Obama did it, it was either this year or last year. Hard for me to believe but this nimrod hasn’t even been in office two years yet.
I believe there may be something much more sinister behind the “leaks.” Look at the lefty news agencies controlling the content of what is being released.
After its own redactions, The Times sent Obama administration officials the cables it planned to post and invited them to challenge publication of any information that, in the official view, would harm the national interest. After reviewing the cables, the officials while making clear they condemn the publication of secret material suggested additional redactions. The Times agreed to some, but not all.
There are foreign outlets and (Once the DNS attacks are stopped) Wikileaks itself that will run unfiltered stuff. Of course, given the laziness of the American populace in educating themselves of real government corruption, waste, totalitarianism, and cronyism, the leaks will be “controlled” effectively (Maybe not for Hillary! though).
It’s a good thing he canceled that missile shield so those Russian sanctions eliminated the threat. What? What did you say? The sanctions were empty? Russia backed off? Iran got WHAT from the Norks? That much range, eh? An operational device when??? No hope to stop them? Smooth move, odumbo.
Is this why the President of Poland was killed in that “accidental” plane crash over Russia?
Notice that we get this news via POLAND since our own press is still in the SugarShack with Barack.
That is a MAJOR score for Obama!
I bet he was willing to give it all up for FREE!
“Is this why the President of Poland was killed in that accidental plane crash over Russia?”
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liberals in foreign policy care only about the posturing of the moment, not actual effectiveness
so long as Obozo & co. could tell themselves that they traded the missile shield for “Russian support for sanctions on Iran” they could FEEL good
that’s all that matters for Democrat foreign policy — if it makes you feel good, do it!
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Oh geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez. We have an IDIOT in the White House!!!!!!