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World Shaken by Wikileaks
Fox News ^ | November 28, 2010 | Staff

Posted on 11/29/2010 3:10:41 AM PST by lbryce

Some of the diplomatic papers stolen from the State Department and leaked Sunday by Wikileaks show more than just potentially embarrassing revelations about U.S. views of allies but disturbing developments among alleged friends as well as foes and competitive states.

The details from the cables being released -- among 250,000 illegally taken from secret State Department records -- include discussions on the U.S. being unable to stop Syrian arms to Hezbollah, its disappointment in Qatar to stop funding terrorism and hacking by the Chinese government of U.S. computers

Samples of some of the thousands of documents that were to be released by Wikileaks Sunday night began leaking out midday after the German newspaper Der Spiegel and The New York Times released excerpts earlier than planned.

This story leads into the following article at Fox News;
WikiLeaks Drop Shows U.S. Striving to Maintain Order in Chaotic Global Relations

(Excerpt) Read more at nation.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhostatedept; goddamnassange; leaks; soshillary; treason; us; wikileaks
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The bottom line I hope is that the damage will prove to be ephemeral and that no long term effect will change the basic reality that the US remains the only global super power for the forseeable future.I hope is that no one will really be shocked by what is revealed in terms of what they have to know is the way the world works behind closed doors. Okay, so call me an optimist.

The greatest damage by the leaks as reported by the Slimes in the long article linked below will be in the Arab World while still saying nothing is going to change much in that what has been revealed merely confirms the suspicions they've harbored about the US all along.
NYT:Updates on the Reaction to U.S. Diplomatic Cables Released by Wikileaks

1 posted on 11/29/2010 3:10:46 AM PST by lbryce
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To: lbryce

i just don’t understand why these people are not hunted down arrested and tried for treason.


2 posted on 11/29/2010 3:17:51 AM PST by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: lbryce

Am I the only one that likes that this happened?

What egg on Obama’s face.


3 posted on 11/29/2010 3:22:27 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: lbryce

There is a small(?) up-side. Our government’s inadequacies and bonehead plays are out there for all to see.


4 posted on 11/29/2010 3:23:44 AM PST by David Isaac
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To: BigCinBigD

The leakers, the publishers or our government “overlords”?


5 posted on 11/29/2010 3:26:20 AM PST by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: lbryce

The leaked info is a true testimony of the superior intellects, and the above board actions of the ruling class. The American poeple should be very proud! /sar


6 posted on 11/29/2010 3:27:54 AM PST by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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To: BigCinBigD

OK, gang, who do you say is behind this circus?

Muslims(Iran, maybe)? Chicoms? I haven’t seen much in what has been leaked so far to make either regime look bad.

Or is this Assange a__hole just one sick SOB?


7 posted on 11/29/2010 3:29:45 AM PST by Scanian
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To: lbryce

these leaks are good news.

perhaps now, the US gov’t
will stop helping the enemy


8 posted on 11/29/2010 3:32:07 AM PST by Talf
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To: Scanian

the zero administration with soros’ blessing and assistance.


9 posted on 11/29/2010 3:35:53 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: lbryce
The bottom line I hope is that the damage will prove to be ephemeral and that no long term effect will change the basic reality that the US remains the only global super power for the forseeable future. as America continues with its slow conversion to a 'soft tyranny' that other countries, such as China, takes her place as the new superpower -- both economically and in terms of freedom.

Corrected for grammar and spelling.

10 posted on 11/29/2010 3:42:31 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Impy
Am I the only one that likes that this happened? What egg on Obama’s face.

He will claim he didn't condone most of it and Hillary will get blamed. He may have to reluctantly ask her to resign in disgrace.

11 posted on 11/29/2010 3:45:56 AM PST by HospiceNurse
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To: Scanian
OK, gang, who do you say is behind this circus?

Obama. Seriously who does Obama consider his main rival. Republicans, he's a narcissist and doesn't care about them or consider them a threat. His main threat is Hillery. And these leaks make the State department look like a bunch of bumbling fools. Hillery will be sacked for cause. Ending her political career.
12 posted on 11/29/2010 3:53:30 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: lbryce
If wikileaks was selling knockoff Gucci purses the DHS would have seized their domain...?

Just asking.

13 posted on 11/29/2010 3:53:44 AM PST by mmercier
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To: lbryce

Has Private Bradley Manning been arrested yet?


14 posted on 11/29/2010 3:57:21 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Scanian
"...Or is this Assange a__hole IS just one sick SOB?
15 posted on 11/29/2010 3:58:05 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: John W
All of them. I would arrest every employee of the NYT and send them to gitmo.
16 posted on 11/29/2010 4:05:04 AM PST by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: Lazamataz

I didn’t qualify my words of being those of an optimist.


17 posted on 11/29/2010 4:10:42 AM PST by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: Lazamataz

I did qualify my words of being those of an optimist.


18 posted on 11/29/2010 4:11:02 AM PST by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: Lazamataz

Sorry for my posting error. Please disregard the former of the two.


19 posted on 11/29/2010 4:13:04 AM PST by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: Impy

“Am I the only one that likes that this happened? What egg on Obama’s face.”

I don’t like the idea that this might place lives at risk, but I think at least the American people should know what our government is up to. When people complain about how our liberties are being stripped, and our government is selling us out to a world government, I guess this is what our government was receiving in return.


20 posted on 11/29/2010 4:16:33 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: samtheman

He has been in solitary for the last seven months.


21 posted on 11/29/2010 4:16:36 AM PST by mmercier
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To: Scanian

“OK, gang, who do you say is behind this circus? Muslims(Iran, maybe)? Chicoms?”

Maybe patriots, libertarians, or the like.


22 posted on 11/29/2010 4:17:53 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: lbryce

The only thing I find appalling is that a Pvt. in the US Army could access to anything other than his lunch schedule. That would be the first place to start. How did Pvt. Dickwad get access to these documents?


23 posted on 11/29/2010 4:20:51 AM PST by anton
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To: kearnyirish2
The most believable information is stolen information. It is also the most unreliable source of information.

This document dump is a black hole operation. Now everyone will believe they know how we think, and no one will question the source.

24 posted on 11/29/2010 4:22:16 AM PST by mmercier (war without tears)
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To: kearnyirish2

No, there is a distinct line between libertarianism and treason.


25 posted on 11/29/2010 4:23:06 AM PST by Scanian
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To: GonzoGOP

“His main threat is Hillery. And these leaks make the State department look like a bunch of bumbling fools. Hillery will be sacked for cause. Ending her political career.”

Don’t underestimate Hillary. If she does lose her career, Obama is in deep doo-doo. He better watch his back.


26 posted on 11/29/2010 4:29:09 AM PST by imskylark
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To: BigCinBigD
The first question that needs to be asked and answered is, "Who would have access to all this classified info?".
And it would be foolish to suggest that it's just one low rank person with a grudge or self righteous attitude.
The number and scope of these documents can only point to "The Highest Levels of Government" as the libtards would say.

27 posted on 11/29/2010 4:31:31 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: mmercier

I agree.

For example, in one of the cables, an American Diplomat in Panama talks about Noriega - having no clue whatsoever that the American military would invade and capture Noriega one week later...


28 posted on 11/29/2010 4:37:02 AM PST by khnyny (What exactly is a CDO??)
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To: lbryce

Has anybody considered, that maybe Wikileaks “Altered” some or all of the documents?

I am “Pro-US”, but I don’t believe everything the US Government says, but I have no reason at all to believe anything Wikileaks says, prints or post. After all these are “digital documents”.

This could be an “Altered Digital Document Dump”.


29 posted on 11/29/2010 4:48:08 AM PST by Chief901 (Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend)
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To: rockinqsranch
Julian is likely to be on the hit list every major intelligence service on earth. He'll make Salman Rusdie look like a free man.

It's a tossup whether the Russians or Saudis get him first.
30 posted on 11/29/2010 4:50:13 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Talf

Perhaps that is what someone at the State Dept had in mind.
(Not justifying it, looking at motives)


31 posted on 11/29/2010 4:54:32 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Chief901

The only problem with your theory is I haven’t heard anyone suggest that documents are inaccurate (including government officials).

While the release shows how weak our current president is, I for one am glad these documents were leak. Most never should have been classified in the first place.

The government classifies over 8 million documents a year. 7,990,000 documents most likely shouldn’t have been. It is good to know that the President knew Iran was making a nuclear weapon, arms shipments to Hezbollah, Chinese cooperation with North Korea, Saudis financing Al Qaeda, Chinese Cyber Attacks, etc... etc...

It is as bad as we suspected and worse.


32 posted on 11/29/2010 5:02:05 AM PST by BushCountry (I spoken many wise words in jest, but no comparison to the number of stupid words spoken in earnest)
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To: Thrownatbirth
What would be ideal if this Ass-guy somehow pissed off the Iranians as well whereby they proclaim a fatwa against him, or a series of Fatwas, any Mullah can proclaim a fatwa, have every single Shi'ite out for his head in gaining an EZ Pass to eternal carnal indulgence.

I can just imagine the headlines:Ass-guy Terminated-Death by Fatwacide.

33 posted on 11/29/2010 5:03:48 AM PST by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: David Isaac

It’s a big upside.


34 posted on 11/29/2010 5:06:54 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: lbryce

“Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” - Matthew 10:27-29


35 posted on 11/29/2010 5:07:03 AM PST by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: Impy
Obama promised transparency, and he had no intention of delivering. He was forced to. Now he has egg on his face.

Hillary had better get used to being hauled off to the woodshed, her job just turned to the crappiest one in all of Washington. She is not up to it and it will wear her down to nothing.


Hillary had better get used to being slapped around the 'woodshed'.

This does not endanger the lives of any troops, but just exposes a bunch of left-wing Obama diplomats and cronies. I personally enjoy seeing them squirm.

They wanted gays in the military, well, reap your bitter fruit.

Couldn't happen to a nicer administration.

36 posted on 11/29/2010 5:16:10 AM PST by Bon mots ("Anything you say, can and will be construed as racist...")
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To: imskylark
“His main threat is Hillery. And these leaks make the State department look like a bunch of bumbling fools. Hillery will be sacked for cause. Ending her political career.”

Don’t underestimate Hillary. If she does lose her career, Obama is in deep doo-doo. He better watch his back.

Oh I agree. Look for a second document dump from the state department concerning background on Obama before she leaves.

Getting rid of Obama but still trying to save the party will not matter as much now if Hillary goes down but nuking him and the communist part of the party will before the last of her power is lost.

37 posted on 11/29/2010 5:17:36 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: BushCountry
I understand what you are saying, and I also have not heard any denials of fact.

I just don't trust the truthfulness of any information, by a group that is intent on getting US and our Allies people killed.

They can be compared to the always true publications found at the check-out stands of your local grocery store.

38 posted on 11/29/2010 5:26:02 AM PST by Chief901 (Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend)
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To: Impy
Am I the only one that likes that this happened?

No. There are a few of us who see this for what it really is.

Those who are condemning Wikileaks on this keep ignoring two things.

1) The MSM sources that are 'publishing' the leaked documents from Wiki are picking and choosing what to print.

2) So far, we are just finding out things our enemies already know.

39 posted on 11/29/2010 6:22:43 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Impy

No, you’re not the only one.

Secrets lead to corruption.....exposing that corruption is ALWAYS a good thing. (as long as soldiers lives are not at risk)


40 posted on 11/29/2010 6:23:00 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: David Isaac
Our government’s inadequacies and bonehead plays are out there for all to see.

AND, we can finally call a SPADE a SPADE.

One thing's for sure, The American Public is going to find out what the rest of the world already knows.

41 posted on 11/29/2010 6:25:13 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: lbryce

“World Shaken by Wikileaks”

Funny, Wikileaks already ‘released’ a ton of documents, and the world didn’t ‘shake’.

It won’t this time either. Maybe the American Public will wake up and smell the roses that everyone else on the planet can smell.


42 posted on 11/29/2010 6:27:24 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: lbryce

If these “leaks” hurt Obama I can live with that.

We complain too much and do too little action, sorry I’m old school, an anachronism of the ways things used to be done.


43 posted on 11/29/2010 6:31:14 AM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: lbryce

Foggy Bottom leaks bump for later........


44 posted on 11/29/2010 6:35:30 AM PST by indthkr
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To: BigCinBigD

Arrested is too kind, they need to sleep with the worms.


45 posted on 11/29/2010 6:36:00 AM PST by biff
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To: BushCountry

From what I can tell there was not much substance in these leaked docs that was not already known. What is mortifying to the State Department are the candid assessments of other people and countries that they contain.


46 posted on 11/29/2010 6:37:09 AM PST by Tom D. (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benj. Franklin)
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To: Impy

“The very word ‘secrecy’ is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.”
- John F. Kennedy


47 posted on 11/29/2010 6:37:12 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Touch my tagline and I'll have you arrested)
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To: Tom D.

Depends how how you define “not already known.” What I liked about the leak was the confirmation of what we already know or suspected, despite every government agency’s denial. We suspected that the government was pulling the wool over our eyes on a vast array of these issues. The wool has been removed.


48 posted on 11/29/2010 6:51:15 AM PST by BushCountry (I spoken many wise words in jest, but no comparison to the number of stupid words spoken in earnest)
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To: NeoCaveman

Should we release all of the acoustical data about our naval ships? Maybe all of the frequencies used during midcourse guidance of hellfires or JDAMS? Maybe, to prove your point, you should declassify your real name and address? Post it here?


49 posted on 11/29/2010 8:32:25 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Obviously their are legitimate national security secrets.

There just aren't that many. As this 250,000 documents show, they over-classify everything. Which once again shows what a bloated bureaucracy we have.

Classified status should be reserved for things like you just pointed out.

50 posted on 11/29/2010 8:39:06 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Touch my tagline and I'll have you arrested)
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