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Can a centrist movement succeed?
Washington Post ^ | 11/29/2010 | Kathleen Parker

Posted on 11/29/2010 7:28:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind

In a political culture where moderation is the new heresy, centrism is fast becoming the new black.

Political outliers - not quite Republican, not quite Democrat - are forming new alliances in a communal search for "Home." Exhausted by extremism and aching for real change, more and more Americans are moving away from demagoguery and toward pragmatism.

Soon they may have options. A new political group, No Labels ( www.nolabels.org ), is hoping to mobilize and support a centrist political movement. Led by Republican strategist Mark McKinnon and Democratic fundraiser Nancy Jacobson, the organization has raised more than $1 million so far - and the formal launch isn't until next month. Backers include Andrew Tisch, co-chair of Loews Corp.; Ron Shaich, founder of Panera Bread; and Dave Morin, a former Facebook executive.

The group hopes to attract politicians who feel that they've lost elections for being too moderate and voters who feel homeless. There are plenty of each.

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When the porridge is either too hot or too cold, the moment for something in between is ripe. More Americans now self-identify as independent rather than Republican or Democrat, even though they may be forced by a lack of alternatives to vote in traditional ways.

But what if there were an alternative? There's little appealing about either party dominated by a base that bears little resemblance to who we are as a nation or the way most of us live our lives.

Yet moderate Democrats and moderate Republicans alike have been banished. Purged, really. Some of them have landed in the No Labels camp.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: centrist; kathleenparker; movement
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1 posted on 11/29/2010 7:29:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Short answer...NO, in fact...HELL NO!


2 posted on 11/29/2010 7:31:10 AM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s like saying socialism and freedom can be compromised on. Moderates only get us to totalitarianism a little slow but they still get us there.


3 posted on 11/29/2010 7:31:38 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

She doesn’t get it.


4 posted on 11/29/2010 7:32:53 AM PST by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The group hopes to attract politicians who feel that they've lost elections for being too moderate....

Aah, so they are extreme moderates? Or moderate extremists? This movement is for pols and voters who don't believe in anything. Sure to rival the Tea Party - NOT!

5 posted on 11/29/2010 7:32:56 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll take an honest socialist like Lieberman over these dishonest “centrists” who hide their agenda behind platitudinous nonsense like “bipartisanship” .


6 posted on 11/29/2010 7:34:19 AM PST by DManA
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To: SeekAndFind

Centrism’s greatest weakness is its fatuous ignorance. Centrism is the unexamined life Socrates was talking about. It ignores the fact that we are in a fight to the death over worldview. That inevitably is fought on ideological grounds. That comes down to philosophy.

Centrists are the unexamined lives who are unwilling to do philosophy. They just want to get on with what they consider to be real life — playing games, going to parties, sending their kids to Ivy League schools.


7 posted on 11/29/2010 7:34:27 AM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: SeekAndFind

As long as it is consistently to the Right of the GOP it may have a chance. Otherwise, no.


8 posted on 11/29/2010 7:34:46 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Rummyfan

If Americans wanted moderates, Ms. Parker, they would have ejected both liberals and conservatives. They voted overwhelmingly for conservatives. We can’t have a world full of squishes. They don’t know what they stand for and people like extremes for a good reason.


9 posted on 11/29/2010 7:35:16 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

RINOs looking for cover.


10 posted on 11/29/2010 7:35:51 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind
No. As Rush often asks, show me the book of great moments in moderation. Change happens because of a fire in the belly and a drive to overcome some outrage or accomplish some lofty goal. Neither of those emotions is compatible with moderation. Moderation is what is left over when the movements have drawn people off to their respective corners.

Moderation triumphs during times of peace, calm and prosperity. When the vast majority of people don't want things to change and like the world just the way it is. In today's society dominated by a wrecked economy, diplomatic disasters, war and terrorism moderation simply has no place. Pick a side and place your bets. The next decade will be no place for spectators.
11 posted on 11/29/2010 7:36:32 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Moderates ALWAYS provide cover for leftists and progressives.

ALWAYS.

WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

When the left is on the rampage, leveling society and destroying the economy, there is no such thing as a “moderate”. The very concept is a lie.


12 posted on 11/29/2010 7:37:19 AM PST by samtheman
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To: SeekAndFind

Could centrists have created the United States?

No.

Wake up and smell the bacon, kathleen.


13 posted on 11/29/2010 7:37:43 AM PST by RexBeach
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To: Migraine

Moderates favor compromise but its almost invariably to the Left. The Blue Dogs never slowed down Obama’s revolution. If there’s a lesson Americans have learned Ms. Parker hasn’t, is you can’t rely on moderate Democrats and Republicans to stop the Left.


14 posted on 11/29/2010 7:37:50 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

“In a political culture where moderation is the new heresy, centrism is fast becoming the new black.”

In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit.
- AYN RAND


15 posted on 11/29/2010 7:38:47 AM PST by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is no centrism in Capitalism.

It’s a winner take all world.


16 posted on 11/29/2010 7:40:06 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: SeekAndFind
Can a centrist movement succeed?

Probably not. There aren't enough centrists in Congress currently to make a difference. And third party candidates don't do well in elections. The process is stacked against anyone operating outside of the two major parties.

17 posted on 11/29/2010 7:40:53 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: SeekAndFind
A new political group, No Labels (www.nolabels.org), is hoping to mobilize and support a centrist political movement.

Fine. But for truth-in-advertising purposes, they should change the url to (www.novotes.org).

18 posted on 11/29/2010 7:41:26 AM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: Grumplestiltskin

Any compromise with evil only strengthens it. There is no book of Great Moderates in world history. I invite Ms. Parker to go look it up.


19 posted on 11/29/2010 7:41:59 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: All
She doesn’t get it.

Right. Ever since Ross Perot's 1992 candidacy for the Presidency, I have been amazed that so many people (even ones I respect for their genuine intellect) buy into the idea of a "radical center"-- the idea that pragmatism divorced from ideology could somehow bring about change.

"Centrism" is fine when one wants to maintain a status quo. But if you really need to change course, then it will fail.

I am now ready to slap "Centrists" upside their heads. The "Moderates" will lead us to policies that will bankrupt us in 30 years, while Barack, Harry, and Nancy will bankrupt us in 10 years.

Say what one will about the wedge "cultural issues," the plain fact is that government budgets are on an unsustainable course overall. We need radical budget cuts and pro-growth tax and regulatory policies immediately.

20 posted on 11/29/2010 7:43:48 AM PST by Lysandru
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To: Non-Sequitur

There are only liberals and conservatives. Any one entering political life already has had a good idea what their worldview is. By the time I was 30, I already knew I was a conservative, much to my father’s discomfort.


21 posted on 11/29/2010 7:43:58 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Lysandru

Like I said, moderates will lead us to totalitarianism. It will just take longer for us to get there with them in charge but that’s the end result.


22 posted on 11/29/2010 7:45:47 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am a conservative independent that left the GOP after the amnesty vote. Am I a centrist?


23 posted on 11/29/2010 7:46:39 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Is it proper etiquette to tip after a enhanced pat down?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Centrism will not accomplish what is needed, which is to unwind socialism.


24 posted on 11/29/2010 7:47:03 AM PST by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Centrist movement? Like getting someone like W Bush with a deficit of only a half a trillion dollars?


25 posted on 11/29/2010 7:47:43 AM PST by MNDude (And we were SO close to acheiving utopia)
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To: SeekAndFind
Who's asking? Kathleen Parker??

But Kathleen - you're a liberal. Look in one of your cracked mirrors.

26 posted on 11/29/2010 7:48:14 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami (2012: "Ich bin ein Tea Party-er!")
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To: SeekAndFind

“Centrist” = big government liberals


27 posted on 11/29/2010 7:48:14 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: SeekAndFind

you can tell the writer has never worked even one summer at a 31 Flavors (with a manager always after her to push the vanilla...)


28 posted on 11/29/2010 7:48:30 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: GonzoGOP

Amen. Between freedom and despotism there is never a middle ground. You would think a dumb beyotch like Parker would have figured it out. I guess she’s content to be the spectator.


29 posted on 11/29/2010 7:49:35 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: samtheman
there is no such thing as a “moderate”

Correct!

The entire concept is nothing but an excuse to keep charismatic, albeit doctrinaire, liberal friends, while preserving the veneer of responsible citizenship.

30 posted on 11/29/2010 7:49:39 AM PST by papertyger
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To: Lysandru
Ever since Ross Perot's 1992 candidacy for the Presidency, I have been amazed that so many people (even ones I respect for their genuine intellect) buy into the idea of a "radical center"-- the idea that pragmatism divorced from ideology could somehow bring about change.

Ummm, Perot was the "conservative" in that race. GW was the Statist, and Klintoon was the Commie.

31 posted on 11/29/2010 7:50:34 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami (2012: "Ich bin ein Tea Party-er!")
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To: samtheman

Of course it is. Obama could never have gotten as far as he has without the cover provided by the Blue Dogs.


32 posted on 11/29/2010 7:51:02 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

‘www.nolabels.org’ is more like ‘www.noprinciples.org’.

I don’t see this happening anytime soon with the House of Representatives being liberal/conservative polarized, although if it did it would help Obama get re-elected.


33 posted on 11/29/2010 7:52:06 AM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: SeekAndFind

Kathleen Parker shilling for RINO Inc.


34 posted on 11/29/2010 7:52:06 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: papertyger

It’s a way of shoving leftism down the throats of the American public while calling it something else. Not even sugar-coating it. Just CALLING it something else.

Like holding you down, pouring drano down your throat, and telling you it’s ginger ale.


35 posted on 11/29/2010 7:52:19 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Conservative Tsunami
Sorry, Perot was no conservative. Remember-- he specifically rejected the label.

(But I do agree that Bush the Elder was no conservative either.)

36 posted on 11/29/2010 7:53:26 AM PST by Lysandru
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To: AZLiberty

Centrism will never rollback what Obamacare imposed on our country. The moderates are content to accept it and tinker around the edges. No our times call for brave souls willing to take radical measures to save our country.


37 posted on 11/29/2010 7:53:33 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

“I’m passionate about apathy, and I vote!”


38 posted on 11/29/2010 7:53:46 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: papertyger

I have yet to meet a moderate who believes we have too much government and too little freedom.


39 posted on 11/29/2010 7:55:13 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

Moderate? Really? We need a dictionary to define what is really meant. Most of these so called moderates are anything but. As if destroying our culture & nation is moderate.


40 posted on 11/29/2010 7:56:00 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: SeekAndFind

On one extreme you have people who want you to eat ice cream for desert.

On the other extreme you have people who want you to eat dog crap for desert.

The moderate/centrist wants you to eat half a bowl of each.

How does that moderation sound?


41 posted on 11/29/2010 7:57:21 AM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: Lysandru
Sorry, Perot was no conservative. Remember-- he specifically rejected the label. (But I do agree that Bush the Elder was no conservative either.)

Then let's agree that in 1992 NO "conservative" ran for Prez.

;-)

42 posted on 11/29/2010 7:58:16 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami (2012: "Ich bin ein Tea Party-er!")
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To: SampleMan

Socialism and freedom are incompatible. If you mix them, you get more of the former and less of the latter. I guess that’s too complicated for Ms. Parker and her crowd to understand.


43 posted on 11/29/2010 8:00:08 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: dead
“I’m passionate about apathy, and I vote!”

Lol, nice.

Btw, what do the "Apathetic Voters of America" lobby for?

44 posted on 11/29/2010 8:02:05 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami (2012: "Ich bin ein Tea Party-er!")
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To: SeekAndFind

Leave it to the Washington Post to try to push this kind of B.S. even after the middle and left got hell beat out of it in this last election.


45 posted on 11/29/2010 8:02:41 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) The more I see and know Obammy the more I think he's an a-hole.)
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To: SeekAndFind
This coming from the supposed Conservative voice on the "The John And The Whore Show". What a load. Screw you Parker. You are a phony Obummer cheerleader and deserve no respect.


46 posted on 11/29/2010 8:03:23 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

If Ms. Parker likes centrists, she can go join them. No one is stopping her!


47 posted on 11/29/2010 8:05:18 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

No.
There is no “central” ground left. They want A, we want not-A, and there is no “sort-of A.”


48 posted on 11/29/2010 8:05:33 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Polarization is one reason our elections have been so bouncy for the past few cycles. There is a large group who don’t much care for either extreme, and pull the lever for “whoever we didn’t vote for last time.” Unfortunately, this leads to results as summed up in my tagline.


49 posted on 11/29/2010 8:11:04 AM PST by Elwood P. Doud (America, you voted for a negro socialist with an Islamic name - so why act surprised?)
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To: Paladin2
RINOs looking for cover.

Or democrats looking for advantage. Or both.

50 posted on 11/29/2010 8:19:41 AM PST by Seven plus One
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