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Dan Walters: California may build train to nowhere
Sacramento Bee ^ | 11/29/10 | Dan Walters

Posted on 11/29/2010 8:01:52 AM PST by SmithL

A few days before this month's election, the federal government announced that California would receive an additional $715 million for its high-speed rail project, contingent on the money being spent quickly on a segment in the San Joaquin Valley.

Why? You'd have to be terminally naive not to believe that the splashy announcement, made personally by an Obama administration official in Fresno, was to help an embattled local congressman, Democrat Jim Costa, stave off a very stiff Republican challenge.

Costa, a longtime bullet train advocate, did, in fact, eke out a narrow re-election win. And last week, the California High-Speed Rail Authority (HSRA) announced plans to spend that money and some other federal and state funds, $4.3 billion in all, to build a 54-mile segment from Madera to Corcoran.

It was instructive on two fronts. It illustrated the pork barrel aspects of the scheme, with financing, routes and station sites dependent more on political pull than objective criteria. It also underscored the eagerness of bullet train boosters to turn dirt, thereby creating a moral commitment to complete the project despite its deficiencies.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: braindead; choochoo; chsra; goldenstate; highspeedrail; lightrail; pork; prop1a; rail; wastefraudabuse; williegreen; yourtaxdollarsatwork

1 posted on 11/29/2010 8:01:56 AM PST by SmithL
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Mongo, why would Hedley Lamarr care about where choo-choo goes?


2 posted on 11/29/2010 8:02:27 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Dead broke CA will have the distinction of building a railroad to nowhere.


3 posted on 11/29/2010 8:03:38 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SmithL

This is why there is a huge Federal deficit.


4 posted on 11/29/2010 8:08:08 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: SmithL

This should open up a whole new demographic of passengers for the TSA to search.


5 posted on 11/29/2010 8:10:39 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: SmithL

“We’re on a road to nowherecome on inside.
Takin’ that ride to nowherewe’ll take that ride.”

Talking Heads

Now Brown is talking about “tweaking” Prop 13.


6 posted on 11/29/2010 8:10:48 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: SmithL
Think of it as sculpture... I call it, "The Spirit of Willie Green."

Has a certain ding to it, n'est ce pas?

7 posted on 11/29/2010 8:13:03 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: SmithL

“If you build it, they WON’T come....”


8 posted on 11/29/2010 8:15:10 AM PST by Enchante (What if the Olberdork returned to the air - and no one notices.... or cares?)
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To: SmithL
Hey...Florida is building bridges to nowhere.

There are three full scale interstate highway overpass's that I know of. One just south of St. Augustine on I-95 and two over on I-75. They have no roads to them. They spread dirt on top of them and planted trees and grass so the animals would have a place to cross the interstate.

Meanwhile, medical helicopter life flights to be suspended in Volusia County due to cost. Meanwhile, Volusia County Council approves spending $28.8 million to purchase 4,806 acres of land.
You can't make this up.

9 posted on 11/29/2010 8:18:25 AM PST by Captain7seas (FIRE JANE LUBCHENCO FROM NOAA)
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To: SmithL

Better, cheaper and smarter service from small local airports would be better than a local loco that nobody will use.

The San Joaquin Valley has lots of fast, straight roads that are relatively uncongested. They work just fine to get to points here in the valley and the valley perimeter. It’s easy to get to Los Angeles and San Franfreakshow from here. But it’s a major hassle to get to points on the other sides of those cities. Such as San Diego.


10 posted on 11/29/2010 8:28:24 AM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: MarineBrat

Pinging Willie Green...


11 posted on 11/29/2010 8:33:45 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Dead broke CA will have the distinction of building a railroad to nowhere.

I plan to be among the very first to not ride it.

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12 posted on 11/29/2010 8:45:30 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: goldstategop

Who’s Willie Green? Searching brings up a basketball player.


13 posted on 11/29/2010 8:47:47 AM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: MarineBrat

Willie Green is a Freeper who is an enthusiast for mass public transport... particularly Amtrak.


14 posted on 11/29/2010 8:49:11 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SmithL
Using my tax money to buy votes burns my as@. It is time to kick this King Obama’s as@.
15 posted on 11/29/2010 8:52:49 AM PST by Logical me
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To: SmithL
The way people are leaving California it should be made "one-way" only, and the name of the project should be "East Bound and down".

California is a shining example of what unchecked liberalism/socialism would do to America.

Forget the border fence in California, by the time Jerry Brown gets through with them they'll have to build a "Berlin Wall" around the whole state to just keep folks in.
16 posted on 11/29/2010 8:53:15 AM PST by FrankR (Don't let the bastards wear you down!)
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To: goldstategop
Willie Green is a Freeper who is an enthusiast for mass public transport...

Enthusiast? That's an understatement. According to Willie, their isn't a problem on the planet from global warming to the heartbreak of psoriasis that can't be solved by a high speed train.

17 posted on 11/29/2010 9:03:57 AM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Ditto

“According to Willie, their isn’t a problem on the planet from global warming to the heartbreak of psoriasis that can’t be solved by a high speed train.”

Yes. But that’s only if you’re standing in front of it.


18 posted on 11/29/2010 9:10:40 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: goldstategop; Willie Green

Does Wee Willie even live in California and is his livelihood dependent on these projects...


19 posted on 11/29/2010 9:12:21 AM PST by tubebender (If you can not read, this thread will tell you how to get help)
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To: SmithL
The first leg is supposed to run from Madera to Corcoran. Have any of you people been to Corcoran? There is nothing there except a state prison. This has got to be stopped. This is a true boondoggle.
20 posted on 11/29/2010 12:43:01 PM PST by Uncle Hal
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To: Logical me

I’d be all in favor of building a railroad which provided only southbound transportation to Tijuana. But only after the damn wall is completed to prevent backflow.


21 posted on 11/29/2010 1:09:35 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Captain7seas

You mean harry reid didn’t go in and buy up a chumk of that land. It would be interesting to see who is buying up that land. Especially if they are elected officials.


22 posted on 11/29/2010 3:29:01 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: SmithL

As a longtime resident of CA, both north and south, I truly see almost no benefit to this train. In between SF & LA, the state has kind of an excluded middle. Sure, there’s lots of flat, agricultural land just begging, I suppose, for such a wondrous project. But really, what the hell? Are there people in LA who are going to commute to SF? Vice versa? I seriously doubt it. And the line isn’t going to carry freight, or, if it is, then it isn’t going to be much of a HS rail deal.

Obviously, there’s a delightful decade-long exercise in pork and allowing politicians and other insiders to jump in front of land-deals thing going on. But the purpose of the train itself...is what? This is going to be a phenomenally expensive project with an incredible absence of ridership.


23 posted on 11/29/2010 6:19:29 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder ("Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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