Skip to comments.How 250,000 US embassy cables were leaked
Posted on 11/29/2010 8:24:00 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
It was childishly easy, according to the published chatlog of a conversation Manning had with a fellow-hacker. "I would come in with music on a CD-RW labelled with something like 'Lady Gaga' erase the music then write a compressed split file. No one suspected a thing ... [I] listened and lip-synched to Lady Gaga's Telephone while exfiltrating possibly the largest data spillage in American history." He said that he "had unprecedented access to classified networks 14 hours a day 7 days a week for 8+ months".
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At any rate, there's a name for the kind of guy that lip-synchs to Lady Gaga.
Maintaining secrecy is essentially impossible in a digital world.
This is both good and bad.
This little queer needs to be left alone in a room full of Marines for about 5 minutes.
There is another name for an Army that lets a 20 year old waltz off with tons of data and doesn’t detect it at all.
I still don’t understand how a low-level enlisted punk like this had access to so much classified info. When I was in the military, there was a “need to know” provision. You only had access if you had the appropriate level of security clearance and “the need to know” this information for your job.
Wasn’t ‘don’t ask don’t tell’ offered as the reason for the treason?
We need to make more of the fact that, if the government can’t even protect it’s own SECRET material, we can’t let them NEAR our medical records.
The kid was clearly gay. And, he lived the kind of lifestyle prior to enlisting that was clearly homosexual. How did he pass a background check which would have presumably included field interviews because he clearly had top-secret clearance? Did not a single red-flag go up about this kid’s sexuality during the security screening process?
Was there any security at all? An army private had unfettered access? Wow, what is going on?
Why is that?
Maybe guys with super-Crays can eventually break encryption codes, but I doubt the Wikileaks folks can. If they could you would also be seeing all sorts of corporate data floating around, but you don't.
My guess is that if I sent you a simply encrypted file of two different letters from Thomas Jefferson to someone else (so you would know what you were looking for) that you wouldn't be able to tell me within a year what those letters were.
This is a gigantic Lady Gaga P.R. stunt.
If he was in telecomm ratings he dealt with processing message traffic all the time and would have access.
Sounds like there was no such security here.
Nonsense. Digital communications are much, much safer and much, much harder to break into, if you want it to be......
They can’t protect America’s secret information but they WILL AND CAN protect Obama’s personal documents. There is something really wrong here.
Gay spy from Oklahoma!
It really doesn’t make a lick of sense. Is there more to this story or have we just become so lax?
Meanwhile, as this little shit runs free... Jonathan Pollard rots in a jail cell...
I don't know. I'm not sure if anyone at DoD does. This is what happens when the federal judiciary inserts itself into areas that are plainly left to the Executive and Legislature.
BUT, this kid enlisted in 2006 or 2007. In fact, he was a specialist before he assaulted another soldier (for reasons unknown, lover's spat?), and was demoted to PFC by NJP. I believe when he actually "stole" these documents off a secure server, he was still a specialist, and had not yet been demoted to PFC (I believe).
Computers, networking and such make it easy to get stuff.
What I want to know is, why hasn’t this guy been tried and shot for espionage and treason?
Whatever..... I'm off to Walmart to get some of those great deals!!
Manning has been in solitary confinement for 7 months...No?
They wouldn't spend the time and money to monitor this grunt dildo's usage of documents. It would have been so simple.
Obviously Risk Management is not State's forte.
Correct. When I was aboard ship, even I couldn’t get into the CIC area of the ship. At least not until I was cleared. Someone else is in on this.
An interesting point here.....It’s said that this info that was leaked, also includes data about money that was paid to other governments without our peoples knowledge. Our government has more to worry about than just the safety of our military.
I’ve known people who worked in secure facilities where the rules were NO outside media of any kind (no CD’s thumb drives, etc.). The computers were boxed in wire cages so you could not even insert any media. So how did this happen?
The problem is not that digital information is inherently unsafe, it’s that the people with access to that information are inherently unsafe.
This has, of course, always been true. But 25 (copiers) or 50 (camera) years ago the guy who passed the information to wikileaks would have been able to get only a few documents out at most, not hundreds of thousands of pages.
Digital format merely makes it multiple orders of magnitude easier to copy and send information. Some small percentage of those with access will choose to do so. I know of no way to 100% eliminate the chance of somebody with access making such a choice.
It’s the same as with guns. Guns don’t kil people, people do. But guns make doing so much easier.
Shirley you can't be series.
No quite CLASSIFIED but still smells fishy.
It wasn’t a leak. It was treason.
I think this guy was fed the info...
It’s not impossible. People were just lazy it sounds like.
First, you have to have great background checks. (I have a feeling those are not as thorough as they used to be.)
Second, you have secure networks. You just can’t be on the web. The networks are in secure buildings. You limit who has access to the data. (How did this kid get access to so much data???? Whatever happened to need to know?)
Third, when you do send messages, you send it on a secure network, and you encrypt it.
It sounds like our government has gotten extremely sloppy. I know the Clinton administration was known for being very lax with security. I was hoping the Bush administration would put things back in order, but maybe they didn’t. I’m betting that the Obama administration is even more lax than Clinton.
(I worked for a defense contractor for many years, and worked on secure networks.)
What's going on?
,P> I can tell ya...
This is right up there with Bush rolling out the red carpet for a conga-line of *millions* entering illegally, during wartime...
This is right up there with Bush's Homeland Security Chief Chertoff, when it was discovered he had people wandering around the inside of his private residence, that had entered this country illegally.....
*During war time*.
It should be, of course.
Perhaps you can answer something I’ve wondered about relevant to this issue.
Isn’t there software available that detects when copying, to flash drive or CD, is started?
Why wasn’t such software installed on “secret” computers?
How does someone get that kind of access tpo classified data?
Can’t we shoot him for that?
i call BS.
i dont remember exactly what his job was in the Army, but how the hell did he access to department of State cables and communications?
didnt he only have a secret clearance? why would an army soldier have access to that traffic?
This guy was evidently a trouble-making gay activist in school. And he was busted back to corporal for some offense, details not made public.
Why was he allowed to enlist? Why wasn’t his secret clearance taken when he was busted? Where were his superiors during all of this.
There is also basic “need to know.” His job involved access to secret files on Afghanistan. Why was he permitted access to secret files everywhere else? There is just ONE secret database for ALL military and state department secrets, and a corporal had access to the whole thing?
Finally, why was he permitted to bring read/write CDs into the office? It might have said Lady Gaga on the label, but it also would have said that it was CD-RW. What the hell was the matter with his supervisor?
All rhetorical questions, I suppose. I was the classified documents clerk for my company for a while, back in the sixties, and no one ever bothered to supervise me at all. Except for an occasional lieutenant passing through who gave me a perfunctory uniform check. But I didn’t have access to top secret information all over the world, only classified documents about the radar systems we were working with.
And, it must be admitted, an occasional secret document having nothing to do with our job that somebody passed down the line so I would be the guy who had to take it out and burn it. That’s how I knew about claymore mines before they were used in battle. But I kept my mouth shut.
Uh - It's first designated as SECRET, a classification level, then it's deemed NOFORN, a status that keeps it away from allies who might otherwise have access to that level of classification.
It all makes sense to me now. the powers that be in the government are being black mailed by the queers with this info.. IOW allow open faggotry in the military or we’ll leak all your secrets..
Needs to be some hanging going on over this crud.
Clearly, this is simply Army incompetence. Any elementary school would have better security for their computer records. Not only should he be fed to the fishes, but also his superiors. If this theft was so easy to pull off, just think what the Chicom & Ruski hackers have cracked into from our gov’t...