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Cancun climate change summit: scientists call for rationing in developed world
The London Telegraph ^ | November 29, 2010 | Louise Gray, Environment Correspondent

Posted on 11/29/2010 11:24:10 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Global warming is now such a serious threat to mankind that climate change experts are calling for Second World War-style rationing in rich countries to bring down carbon emissions.

In a series of papers published by the Royal Society, physicists and chemists from some of world’s most respected scientific institutions, including Oxford University and the Met Office, agreed that current plans to tackle global warming are not enough.

Unless emissions are reduced dramatically in the next ten years the world is set to see temperatures rise by more than 4C (7.2F) by as early as the 2060s, causing floods, droughts and mass migration.

As the world meets in Cancun, Mexico for the latest round of United Nations talks on climate change, the influential academics called for much tougher measures to cut carbon emissions....

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: agw; capandtax; carbontrade; climatechange; criminalconspiracy; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; globalwarmingscare; heplayedonourfears; marxism
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I hope they're dumb enough to try this.
1 posted on 11/29/2010 11:24:20 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wars are no longer conducted on the battlefield. They are conducted in international courts.

Lawyers are the enemy, now more than ever.

2 posted on 11/29/2010 11:26:15 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Watch the wrap.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/11/19/one-year-ago-today-breaking-news-story-cru-has-apparently-been-hacked-hundreds-of-files-released/


3 posted on 11/29/2010 11:26:34 AM PST by edcoil ("Help the helpless, don't give a shit about the clueless.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A bunch of rich, white, western elites gather in luxurious air conditioned hotels to dine on steak and lobster and complain about how everyone else is wasteful and destroying the environment.

Just another day in Obamaland.


4 posted on 11/29/2010 11:28:40 AM PST by Tzimisce (It's just another day in Obamaland.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Global warming is now such a serious threat to mankind that climate change experts are calling for Second World War-style rationing in rich countries to bring down carbon emissions.

It should read: Global warming is now such a serious threat to mankind that climate change experts are calling for Second World War-style rationing in rich countries to bring "them down to the level of third world countries."

5 posted on 11/29/2010 11:30:30 AM PST by mia
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To borrow from the movie ‘Alien’...”In Cancun no one can hear you scream.”


6 posted on 11/29/2010 11:30:53 AM PST by JPG (The GOP leadership is on probation. No second chances. Don't blow it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Global warming is now such a serious threat to mankind that climate change experts are calling for Second World War-style rationing in rich countries to bring down carbon emissions.”

The next thing you know the liberals in the west will decide there are too many bodies in the developed world consuming too much per capita output in world resources and hence we need to eliminate 5 in every ten people in western developed nations to allow “emerging” nations (e.g. third world ) to develop fairly in the face of historical suppression of their societies.


7 posted on 11/29/2010 11:32:02 AM PST by ZULU (No nation which tried to tolerate Islam escaped Islamization.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Time to have China and India cut emissions, then.


8 posted on 11/29/2010 11:32:02 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I hope they're dumb enough to try this.

Brought to you by the UN and GReenPeace.. nuff said..


9 posted on 11/29/2010 11:32:45 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Tzimisce

Follow the money. Fascists reward their corporate partners. And we all thought Hitler was dead. Hah. THE BOYS FROM BRAZIL are environmentalists!!


10 posted on 11/29/2010 11:32:56 AM PST by SC_Pete (pRO)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

why isn’t this conference being held in Copenhagen again????


11 posted on 11/29/2010 11:33:14 AM PST by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: Tzimisce

What are they going to do with the perpetual, fastest growing segment of polluters in the world? The fastest developing largest economies of China and India? Wait till they all have cars.

What a crock!

Take a trip to Africa, India, China and wherever there are third world conditions, no one pays attention to emissions so why should it be harnessing the “West” (who do have emissions control and regulation)?

Will they participate?


12 posted on 11/29/2010 11:34:32 AM PST by himno hero
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No one is listening anymore, they can call all they want, there’s no answer.


13 posted on 11/29/2010 11:34:32 AM PST by Jenny217
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All they will get is the middle finger.


14 posted on 11/29/2010 11:35:14 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let them go to the root cause of the vehicle emissions- Saudi Oil! Tax the Saudis!lol


15 posted on 11/29/2010 11:36:10 AM PST by himno hero
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To: JPG

Legally Binding is a Surrender of National Sovereignty.

The UN and others are a cancer we should have nothing to do with.

If liberals are so Darwin, they should believe we ought to let all civilizations - example Haiti - go extinct so the fit can survive.


16 posted on 11/29/2010 11:38:27 AM PST by Surrounded_too
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did the attendees arrive by bicycle or sailboat?

These maggots, like Holdren, want us “de-developed” and poor to control us.

Mass third world immigration, taxation, unions, regulations and the GW lie are all parts of Soros grand plan of a New World Order.

Call me a tin hatter, I am right on the $$$.


17 posted on 11/29/2010 11:38:35 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: stefanbatory

Cheaper whores for the delegates in attendance.


18 posted on 11/29/2010 11:40:10 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They are LOSING GROUND FAST.
19 posted on 11/29/2010 11:43:01 AM PST by Baynative (on to 2012)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Follow the dots. The only government capable of doing this is an autocratic, totalitarian government - very much one the efficient Chinese model proposed by Soros. I am not a Soros phobic as he is just one of many progressives with similar objectives. Whe he dies we will hardly notice his passing. His heir we immediately step up.


20 posted on 11/29/2010 11:43:36 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

World calls for Cancun to use Global Warming retards for shark bait.


21 posted on 11/29/2010 11:43:40 AM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: JPG

I prefer Ripley’s quote from Aliens - “ I say we take off, and nuke the site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.”


22 posted on 11/29/2010 11:45:14 AM PST by mkleesma (`Call to me, and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“causing floods, droughts”

One or the other, alarmists, pick one, eh?


23 posted on 11/29/2010 11:48:42 AM PST by MeganC (January 20, 2013)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the eco-KOOKS are frothing at the mouth to get their carbon-CON revenue racket going.


24 posted on 11/29/2010 11:48:43 AM PST by IGBT (..it's the Carbon-Con. A green slime license to purge you of all your money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
FTA: Global warming is now such a serious threat to mankind that climate change experts are calling for Second World War-style rationing in rich countries to bring down carbon emissions.

Vet: I hope they're dumb enough to try this.

Oh, so do I! Please, PLEASE, Democrats! Make this your SIGNATURE ISSUE in 2012!

You think 2010 was a rout? Watch when the Dhimmicrats try telling people they'll have their food purchases rationed for Gore-bull warning. There'll be pitchforks and torches. And not a few politicians run out of DC on a rail. Please, oh please, do this, Obama.

25 posted on 11/29/2010 11:49:21 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ("The Constitution is not an instrument for government to restrain the people..." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Two more years of Obama, and we won’t have enough industrial base left to qualify as “developed”.


26 posted on 11/29/2010 11:51:24 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Global warming is now such a serious threat to mankind that climate change experts are calling for Second World War-style rationing in rich countries to bring down carbon emissions.

But I've been told that this ISN'T a global conspiracy to attack capitalism and Western exceptionalism and push for Marxist redistribution of wealth to third world dictatorships and carbon credit scams.

27 posted on 11/29/2010 11:53:12 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: MeganC
“causing floods, droughts”

>>One or the other, alarmists, pick one, eh?

And a new Ice Age as we start a period of dramatic global warming...

28 posted on 11/29/2010 11:54:16 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: stefanbatory

The weather was dreadful there....not enough globalwarming that far north.....


29 posted on 11/29/2010 11:58:48 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: backwoods-engineer

They’ll be lucky if it’s just pitchforks and torches, if you take my meaning..


30 posted on 11/29/2010 11:59:51 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Re: Gov. Sarah Palin: Even the lion has to defend himself against flies. ~German Proverb)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t believe that so many reasonably intelligent scientists got drawn into the hoax of global warming theory. Not one of these scientists can explain in any depth and detail how a very small amount of CO2 added to the atmosphere can possibly trap the huge amount of energy needed to warm up the earth by 3-5 degrees F. There has been a monumental breakdown in the scientific peer review process over the last 25 years.


31 posted on 11/29/2010 12:03:01 PM PST by socialism_stinX (He didn't invent fresh-brewed coffee, but he perfected the art of sipping it during tennis warm-up.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There already is rationing....have they seent he purchasing power of consumers lately?


32 posted on 11/29/2010 12:04:22 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Tzimisce

I have had a theory for quite a while now that what is driving public policy in the West is not socialism but a reaction by the old money elites to technological advances that allow the middle class to live almost as well as the truly rich.

The first tactic of the eiltes is to use media they control to denigrate middle class lifestyle and consumption. They introduce words like “McMansion” to the lexicon. There is nothing wrong with real mansions, the kind John Edwards, Al Gore, and Thomas Friedman live in, only the kind the upstart middle class enjoy. No SUVs for the common folk, but they are also fine for the rich, along with limos.

When public ridicule doesn’t work, they resort to writing laws to make sure the separation between the rich and the middle class remains wide and distinct.

No school vouchers for the people - private schools are for the elite.
No higher education admissions based on merit - that might keep “legacy” offspring out of the best universities.
No cell phone use in cars - that privilege is reserved for the rich with drivers, or public officials.
No big TVs allowed - home theater needs to be for the rich only.
No big cars, or even cars at all - public transit is for the masses.
No big homes allowed. Pretenders with 5,000 sf homes just won’t do.
And it goes on and on.

Of course, the global warming myth has been the best tool for burdening the middle class ever invented. This article shows the power elites have now dropped any attempt to hide their actual goal -— keep the middle class in their place so the old money types can keep their elevated and separate status.


33 posted on 11/29/2010 12:05:01 PM PST by BigBobber
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cancun ! Maybe they wont make it out of there ;) Alaska Airlines stopped service to Cancun months ago , because of safety issues .


34 posted on 11/29/2010 12:08:36 PM PST by Deetes (God Bless the Troops)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Reality repeats fiction, just like the global warming promoter and bad guy Dominic Greene in the last Bond film "Quantum of Solace."

The scene where Dominic speaks somberly of deforrestation in Latin America to a crowd of champagne-sipping elitists is classic, all the while he's hording water and plotting to give Bolivia back to a former dictator.

35 posted on 11/29/2010 12:08:45 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They’ll be lucky if it’s just pitchforks and torches, if you take my meaning...

Roger, message received. I was thinking the same thing, but didn't want to get smacked by the mods for advocating the "V" word. Even though it would happen on its own anyway.

36 posted on 11/29/2010 12:08:48 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("The Constitution is not an instrument for government to restrain the people..." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Flipping through the channels on Saturday I came across ‘The Day After Tomorrow” just starting.

I figured what the heck and watched it.

OMG! Now I know why the Libs have such a wet dream over this movie as it vindicates everything that's been said about Global Warming.

All the buzz words, the spin, the lies, is like watching a bad movie. Oh wait!

The character that plays President Bush has about 3 lines in the whole movie and always has a quizzical look on his face. The guy that plays Cheney admits about a hundred times that he screwed up and should have listened to the far-left and their wacky ideas. And it's clear he runs the office of the President (who gets killed when his convoy is overcome by a very cold low pressure system. wtf)

I laughed pretty much the whole movie.

Oh, and it's a direct rip-off from the book ICE!

37 posted on 11/29/2010 12:09:11 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What's black and white and red all over? HINT: Think White House)
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To: mia
*Global warming is now such a serious threat to mankind that climate change experts are calling for Second World War-style rationing in rich countries to bring down carbon emissions.

It should read: Global warming is now such a serious threat to mankind that climate change experts are calling for Second World War-style rationing in rich countries to bring "them down to the level of third world countries. *

Another one: .

Exposing the hoax of Global warming is now such a serious threat to mankind the Communism, Socialism and Marxist agenda that climate change "experts" are calling for Second World War-style rationing in rich countries to bring down carbon emissions quickly, before everyone catches on ."

38 posted on 11/29/2010 12:11:47 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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To: ZULU
hence we need to eliminate 5 in every ten people in western developed nations to allow “

What do you think policies promoting abortion & homosexuality are really all about?

39 posted on 11/29/2010 12:14:43 PM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: NormsRevenge
Our only hope is to give all of our money, our future, our children's future and all of our freedom to the government so that they in their infinite infallibility can avert this hoax...er..um..that is to say VERY REAL crisis that ONLY governments can stop.

Have you EVER known ANY government to be wrong about anything? Ever?

No Certainly not. Pay no attention to those men behind the curtains and OBEY!

40 posted on 11/29/2010 12:14:58 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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To: BigBobber
I have had a theory for quite a while now that what is driving public policy in the West is not socialism but a reaction by the old money elites to technological advances that allow the middle class to live almost as well as the truly rich.

Brilliant analysis! That sure makes a lot of sense. I am going to have to think about your theory every time something comes out in the "news" denigrating the middle class and their simple pleasures.

41 posted on 11/29/2010 12:16:28 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("The Constitution is not an instrument for government to restrain the people..." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: BigBobber

“a reaction by the old money elites to technological advances that allow the middle class to live almost as well as the truly rich”

Right. But also, it’s “we’re taking THEIR resources”. Us little plebs should be more “sustainable”, and not use too much of THEIR resources. Don’t we realize that all the gold & oil & stuff belongs to them? Who do we think we are, using up THEIR stuff.


42 posted on 11/29/2010 12:23:47 PM PST by Christian Engineer Mass
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The leftists know that their little global warming hoax has been exposed and that nothing will be coming of it...so, they feel safe now in openly proposing the socialist ideas that would have come out of a climate change agreement.


43 posted on 11/29/2010 12:31:29 PM PST by NRG1973
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Unless emissions are reduced dramatically in the next ten years the world is set to see temperatures rise by more than 4C (7.2F) by as early as the 2060s, causing floods, droughts and mass migration.

The True Believers are still pushing this nonsense? Really?

44 posted on 11/29/2010 12:34:09 PM PST by TheDon (The Democrat Party, the party of the KKK (tm))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Lawyers are the enemy, now more than ever. Every stupid thing that is wrong with the west is due to lawyers. There needs to be no such thing as a professional practitioner of law. And judges should be temporarily drafted from the general population, just like jurors.

The legal class has effectively killed America.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

45 posted on 11/29/2010 12:36:27 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Moonbat propagandists are the enemy.


46 posted on 11/29/2010 12:38:06 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: ZULU
*“Global warming is now such a serious threat to mankind that climate change experts are calling for Second World War-style rationing in rich countries to bring down carbon emissions.”

The next thing you know the liberals in the west will decide there are too many bodies in the developed world consuming too much per capita output in world resources and hence we need to eliminate 5 in every ten people in western developed nations to allow “emerging” nations (e.g. third world ) to develop fairly in the face of historical suppression of their societies.*

And we on the Right will be the 5 that must go.
Happens in Communist countries all the time.

Ask the families of the 100 million killed by Communist regimes last century.....

47 posted on 11/29/2010 12:39:38 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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To: DGHoodini

*World calls for Cancun to use Global Warming retards for shark bait.*

I’d vote for that!

;-)


48 posted on 11/29/2010 12:40:40 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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To: stefanbatory
why isn’t this conference being held in Copenhagen again????

Too cold in Denmark this time of year.

49 posted on 11/29/2010 12:42:01 PM PST by hattend (The meaning of the 2010 election was rebuke, reject, and repeal. - Sarah Palin)
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To: Surrounded_too
*Legally Binding is a Surrender of National Sovereignty.

The UN and others are a cancer we should have nothing to do with.*

Anything the UN makes as a law is as legally binding as anything a 3 year old writes on a piece of toilet paper.
Countries that go along with the UN are giving up or trying to gravy up.

Dismantle and defund the vile UN!

50 posted on 11/29/2010 12:42:44 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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