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Shocker! TSA's nude scans would miss taped-on bombs
WND ^ | NOVEMBER 28, 2010 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 11/29/2010 6:28:04 PM PST by RobinMasters

A new peer-reviewed scientific study says the backscatter full-body imaging X-ray machines being used by the federal Transportation Security Administration could be fooled by terrorists who simply would mold explosives to conform to their bodies.

WND obtained an advance copy of the report, titled "An evaluation of airport X-ray backscatter units based on image characteristics," in which University of California scientists Leon Kaufman and Joseph Carlson demonstrated that packages of explosives contoured to the body or worn along the sides likely would not be detected by TSA X-ray units built to "see" hard edges and anatomical features, and used primarily to image the front and back of the body.

The article comes from Dr. David Brenner of Columbia's Center for Radiological Research, whose research includes estimating the risks of low dose X-ray exposures.

WND previously reported that Brennan has cautioned that it is "quite likely" that radiation from screening machines being installed nationwide by the TSA to use on airline passengers will cause cancer, especially among high-risk groups that include frequent fliers and children.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: tsapervs

1 posted on 11/29/2010 6:28:06 PM PST by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

Also, where did the shoe and underwear bomber’s flights originate? Not in the US? Wonder if those countries have the intrusive scan and pat down?


2 posted on 11/29/2010 6:35:16 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: RobinMasters

They could miss a lot of things.


3 posted on 11/29/2010 6:35:59 PM PST by smokingfrog ( ><{{{{{{(0>)
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To: RobinMasters

I’ve wondered how long it will be before bad guys create a bomb that in the shape of (ahem) an anatomical body part...


4 posted on 11/29/2010 6:37:14 PM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob

The scanner and pat down would miss anything in a body cavity. What folly.


5 posted on 11/29/2010 6:44:37 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: bigbob

Wouldn’t they have to remove the original parts first? That might not go over so well. LOL!


6 posted on 11/29/2010 6:45:05 PM PST by doc1019 (Martyrdom is a great thing, until it is your turn.)
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To: RobinMasters
"A new peer-reviewed scientific study says the backscatter full-body imaging X-ray machines being used by the federal Transportation Security Administration could be fooled by terrorists who simply would mold explosives to conform to their bodies."

Doesn't matter. It's not the purpose of the scanners anyway. The scanners are meant to force Americans to submit to humiliating intrusions into their privacy. It's no more complicated than that.

7 posted on 11/29/2010 6:45:57 PM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: RobinMasters

Didn’t anybody TEST THESE THINGS???


8 posted on 11/29/2010 6:46:01 PM PST by Mr. K ('profiling' would be much more offensive than grabbing your balls)
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To: bigbob

“I’ve wondered how long it will be before bad guys create a bomb that in the shape of (ahem) an anatomical body part...”

You mean a “John Holmes” special?


9 posted on 11/29/2010 6:48:42 PM PST by CapnJack
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To: Mr. K
Didn’t anybody TEST THESE THINGS???

This is a classic example of the "do something" syndrome.....

.....They knew what they need to do (profile).

.....They couldn't do it because of PC.

.....So they did "something", even if it was wrong and ineffective.

I also believe they have done this to prove they can do it. It's about control, even if it doesn't obtain the objective specified.

10 posted on 11/29/2010 6:52:14 PM PST by SteamShovel (UTOPIA...Isn't)
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To: RobinMasters

doesn’t surprise me in the least... whats this “shocker” thing anyways?


11 posted on 11/29/2010 6:54:16 PM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: RobinMasters

Just more unintended consequences from the people who brought you CFL filled with mercury etc.


12 posted on 11/29/2010 6:55:06 PM PST by Let's Roll (Stop ACORN destroying America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: YHAOS

This American refuses to submit.


13 posted on 11/29/2010 6:55:12 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (My message to jack-boot "Pissy" Pistole....DON'T TREAD ON MY JUNK)
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To: RobinMasters

Would also miss weapons hidden in body cavities.

So I wouldn’t be surprise I’d the next step in the TSA’s Gestapo playbook is “random” body cavity searches.


14 posted on 11/29/2010 6:56:00 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: smokingfrog

“They could miss a lot of things.”

Tape a box cutter to the bottom of your feet...

Just sayin...


15 posted on 11/29/2010 6:58:47 PM PST by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: RobinMasters
Write this on tin-foil, and put it in your shirt pocket:

Dare the TSA to throw it in the garbage.

16 posted on 11/29/2010 7:05:21 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (0bama thought he'd find "common ground" on 0bamaCare because of ROMNEYCARE!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

There’s more than one of us (but you knew that).


17 posted on 11/29/2010 7:13:55 PM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: RobinMasters

That feature is in the $1,000,000 upgrade to the $600,000 scanner.


18 posted on 11/29/2010 7:32:20 PM PST by depressed in 06 (The only thing the ZerO administration is competent at is bad ideas.)
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To: RobinMasters

Now they will have to start giving everybody a full pat down.


19 posted on 11/29/2010 7:52:16 PM PST by heartless youngster (A Young Conservative is someone with no heart. An old Liberal is someone with no brains)
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To: TheBattman

Yeah, and the TSA said their policy is not to have passengers remove their prostheses for examination - another obvious place to hide explosives.

These scanners and molestations do nothing to enhance security. Nothing.


20 posted on 11/29/2010 7:57:54 PM PST by BigBobber
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To: bigbob
We already know that it misses items in body cavities. That might include anything trapped between large layers of body fat (which has been used to smuggle in items to jail). This report means it would also miss items form molded. OK, we can just switch to profiling since none of the high-tech will stop low tech methods of smuggling on a bomb.

And that's assuming they don't Fedex or UPS it.

21 posted on 11/29/2010 7:58:16 PM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: RobinMasters

Thanks for the posting
Knew that all along, but missed WND posting and will link this source to my posting on this subject; 5 Questions 2011 Congress Must Ask TSA http;//www.theusmat.com/


22 posted on 11/29/2010 8:03:27 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("To punish a province Let it be ruled by a professor " Frederick The Great paraphrased)
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To: RobinMasters
Privatize airport security and stupid incompetency along with unconstitutional groping will be a thing of the past. Get the government out of the business.
23 posted on 11/29/2010 8:03:56 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: RobinMasters
Privatize airport security and stupid incompetency along with unconstitutional groping will be a thing of the past. Get the government out of the business.
24 posted on 11/29/2010 8:05:34 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Syntyr
Tape a box cutter to the bottom of your feet...

Hijacking a plane with a box cutter was a one shot deal. If they tried it again today, they'd be a slick spot in the aisle by the time the plane landed.

25 posted on 11/29/2010 8:10:38 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: mosesdapoet

Correction link is http:www.theusmat.com/


26 posted on 11/29/2010 8:30:47 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("To punish a province Let it be ruled by a professor " Frederick The Great paraphrased)
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To: mosesdapoet

Correction link is http://www.theusmat.com/


27 posted on 11/29/2010 8:33:35 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("To punish a province Let it be ruled by a professor " Frederick The Great paraphrased)
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To: bigbob

’ve wondered how long it will be before bad guys create a bomb that in the shape of (ahem) an anatomical body part...
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HAHAHA!!!!!!!! a 10 inch penis made of C4.


28 posted on 11/29/2010 9:15:16 PM PST by photodawg
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To: RobinMasters
I'm not familiar with the plastic explosives, but, AFAIDK, they are all nitrogen compounds. I Do know (from personal experience in cardiac ICU, that nitroglycerine (from "patches") is readily absorbed through the skin -- and, when that happens, it gives you a crippling headache. In fact they also administered morphine to dull the nitro headache.

It would seem that anyone stupid enough to mold a nitro explosive to H/H body should be recognizable by evidence of either severe pain or drug stupor...

29 posted on 11/29/2010 9:42:44 PM PST by TXnMA (You don't have to be a California Condor expert to recognize a mockingbird when it sings...)
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To: RobinMasters; dhs12345; smokingfrog; bigbob; ViLaLuz; doc1019; Mr. K; CapnJack; SteamShovel; ...
the backscatter full-body imaging X-ray machines ... could be fooled by terrorists who simply would mold explosives to conform to their bodies.

C4 explosive plastic is very moldable

30 posted on 11/29/2010 9:43:39 PM PST by FreeKeys (The New York Slimes thinks "freedom of the press" means: It's OK to divulge national secrets.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Privatize airport security and stupid incompetency along with unconstitutional groping will be a thing of the past. Get the government out of the business.

Amen. And make THE AIRLINES DO IT -- they have THE MOST to lose from slip-ups: Precious reputations as well as planes, crews and loyal passengers.

31 posted on 11/29/2010 9:54:37 PM PST by FreeKeys (The ONLY purposes for scanning EVERYone is to make civilians cowards & politicians rich & powerful..)
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To: RobinMasters

The TSA scanner/pat down are 100% INeffective. Why?

Terrorists already know how to bypass them.

They are completely useless, we should move to Israeli-style profiling now.

http://www.libradex.com/viewArticle.aspx?id=107


32 posted on 11/29/2010 9:57:44 PM PST by ssugasl231
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To: bigbob

Well, terrorists have ALREADY used a bomb in their rectum. Last year. To defeat a pat down.

http://www.libradex.com/viewArticle.aspx?id=107


33 posted on 11/29/2010 9:58:48 PM PST by ssugasl231
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To: ViLaLuz

Exactly! And Al Queda had a guy explode a bomb in his rectum just last year.

They clearly are able and willing to do it.

They could do it tomorrow and TSA would catch nothing.


34 posted on 11/29/2010 9:59:53 PM PST by ssugasl231
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To: TXnMA

Can’t they just wrap it in Saran Wrap?


35 posted on 11/29/2010 10:02:30 PM PST by ssugasl231
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To: ssugasl231

I still say we should just employ bomb/crotch-sniffing dogs. They’re much more efficient and cost-effective.


36 posted on 11/29/2010 10:03:28 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

except that terrorists can spend time and seal bombs so that they don’t emit any smells.


37 posted on 11/30/2010 2:12:07 AM PST by ssugasl231
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To: BigBobber

YEah - what policy - tell that to the cancer survivor who was forced to removed her prosthetic breast a couple weeks back...


38 posted on 11/30/2010 7:18:12 AM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: ssugasl231
except that terrorists can spend time and seal bombs so that they don’t emit any smells.

Not possible.

39 posted on 11/30/2010 7:40:35 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: numberonepal

I believe that it is possible to seal material that it doesn’t emit any molecules. It doesn’t last forever, but it is possible. Vacuum sealing + using special packaging.


40 posted on 11/30/2010 12:25:04 PM PST by ssugasl231
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To: ssugasl231

Only possible in a clean room and then the person implanted would have to be scrubbed and sealed until the deed is done. I doubt the moron terrorists would have access or know how to do anything of the sort. Not possible for THEM might be a better answer. Maybe Intel or Monsanto could pull it off, but it’d still be a darn tough row to hoe.


41 posted on 11/30/2010 12:35:53 PM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: TheBattman
YEah - what policy - tell that to the cancer survivor who was forced to removed her prosthetic breast a couple weeks back...

Right after that incident happened the TSA announced that their policy is not to make passengers remove prostheses. This obviously creates an opportunity for would-be terrorists.

Body scans and pat downs are not effective. Need to go to profiling and bomb sniffing devices

42 posted on 11/30/2010 10:25:51 PM PST by BigBobber
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