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Up in the Air! A Missle, Or A Plane, Or Another Government Cover-Up?
American Conservative Daily ^ | 11-28-10 | J.D. Longstreet

Posted on 11/30/2010 10:28:55 AM PST by bigbob

During the late eighties I was assigned to NORAD, as a Command Director initially and later as the assistant Director of Operations for NORAD. The NORAD operation was located inside the Cheyenne Mountain complex just outside Colorado Springs, Colorado. Twenty four hours a day a team of approximately 150 highly trained individuals, lead by a Brigadier General, monitored one of the most sophisticated computer systems in the world. This system was fed data from many different sensors that were able to detect missile shots from any point on the globe. All this data was taken into consideration when making the "assessment" as whether or not North America and/or Canada were threatened by such a launch. If the launch was assessed as a true threat, the President was contacted immediately by NORAD through a military individual always close to the President who carried what we called, "the football", a black brief case with release codes for our nuclear forces. I know the system well, as for near three years I led one of those teams.

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I understand the difference in an aircraft contrail and a missile launch contrail.

In my opinion there is absolutely no doubt that what was captured on video off the coast of California was a missile launch, was clearly observed by NORAD, assessed by a four-star General in minutes, and passed to the President immediately. That is the way the system works, and heads fall if there is a failure. This is one of the most important tenets of National Defense and its sole purpose of protecting the American people. Even the smallest failure in this system gets intense scrutiny at the highest level.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: californiamissile; cashjdlongstreet; chat; contrail; coverup; jimmylcash; missile; missilemystery; missilenotmissle; mysterymissile; repost; tinfoilbrigade; ups902
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This article was received by email from a friend and also turns up on a number of conservative blog sites. When an Air Force Brigadier General with Gen. Cash's credentials speaks, I tend to listen, even though I've already formed my own conclusions that he reinforces here.

We can argue til the cows come home about whether this was a "contrail" or a missile launch but isn't it logical that something this spectacular would have been reported up the chain of command as Gen. Cash states? And if so, what is the reason for a non-response from Obama?

What say you? Can anyone disprove his opinions?

1 posted on 11/30/2010 10:29:00 AM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob
Can anyone disprove his opinions?

How does one go about disproving any opinion?

2 posted on 11/30/2010 10:32:26 AM PST by TankerKC (Part of the Soros funded Blog Police.)
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To: bigbob

Missile.
Just one of a long line of Gub mint cover ups.
Nothing to see here, move along.


3 posted on 11/30/2010 10:32:34 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) The more I see and know Obammy the more I think he's an a-hole.)
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To: bigbob
It's been beaten to death, but I will add that the government's official position was "we don't know" for about 2 days. Then they decided it was a regularly scheduled flight from Hawaii to Phoenix. Then they decided it was a different flight.

1) "We don't know" was a lie. We have radar. We know.
2) Taking 2 days to determine that the FAA knew all about this is laughable.
3) Changing their mind about the flight is just clutching at straws.

One of the lamest coverups I've seen. But a lot of people bought it. Huh. They bought the whole TWA 800 "spark in the fuel tank" story too.

4 posted on 11/30/2010 10:34:30 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: bigbob
" We can argue til the cows come home about whether this was a "contrail" or a missile launch but isn't it logical that something this spectacular would have been reported up the chain of command as Gen. Cash states? And if so, what is the reason for a non-response from Obama? "

Because he is not a true American president and didn't want to upset his Commie Chinese/Korean friends ?
5 posted on 11/30/2010 10:36:55 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: bigbob
I don't know if it was a missle or aircraft contrail. I wasn't there to see it in person and video can be misleading depending on time, distance and perspective.

However if it was a missle, the Government knows it and almost certainly who launched it.

6 posted on 11/30/2010 10:37:34 AM PST by sjmjax
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To: sjmjax

Whoever launched it probably shelled an island off of South Korea last week.


7 posted on 11/30/2010 10:39:59 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: bigbob

The ‘missile’ launched from the approximate location of San Nicolas Island, which is part of NAS Point Mugu - a Naval rocket base since the 50s.

It seems likely therefore that it was an unscheduled firing of a SF booster (perhaps even a cook-off). No damage was done, there’d be no reason to make a big deal of it either way.


8 posted on 11/30/2010 10:40:13 AM PST by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Or maybe in this case there was no response because nothing happened. Just like nothing happens whenever this optical illusion appears over the coast.

I know, I’m just a government shill, blah blah blah...


9 posted on 11/30/2010 10:40:27 AM PST by linear (Sticklers Unite!)
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To: bigbob
Insert >>Awww Jeeez Not This Sh*t Again<< Pic Here
10 posted on 11/30/2010 10:43:59 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: linear

There’s a video that shows a boosted launch, with an evolving plume and a ‘flame’.

I don’t think it’s a significant event - I believe it was a rogue booster from Point Mugu, not e.g. a Chinese sub - but it was definitely a launch of some kind.


11 posted on 11/30/2010 10:44:10 AM PST by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: bigbob

I find it interesting that the President and over 100 of his closest people went out of the country when this missile was fired. Maybe, so that if anything went wrong, they would be protected. If this is true, then he knew about it before it happened. I also heard, if I heard correctly, that in the START Treaty, the President has agreed to cancel the new generation submarines. We can’t even detect Chinese subs and we want to cancel our next generation of subs? This is sucicide.


12 posted on 11/30/2010 10:51:41 AM PST by RC2
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To: ├čudda├čudd
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Ask and ye shall receive...:-)

13 posted on 11/30/2010 10:54:15 AM PST by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Mantra of the left: 'It's only okay when WE do it.'")
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To: bigbob
The only non-missle explanation I will believe is one like this.

Pentagon to test 2nd near-space strike craft

14 posted on 11/30/2010 10:54:41 AM PST by McGruff
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To: bigbob

I wonder why KCBS has still only released less than a minute of edited and repeated footage of the event. They even called it “raw” footage for some reason. It was reported that the event was observed for around 10 minutes. In 10 minutes of unedited complete footage would either show a missile or a jet.

Freegards


15 posted on 11/30/2010 10:57:08 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: bigbob

Cover up just like flight 800!


16 posted on 11/30/2010 10:58:52 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: TankerKC

You’re right, sorry for lousy phrasing on my part. Was just looking to see if any new info had come out on this story, as my friend was trying to find out if it was true or not.

We’ll probably never know for sure, is the likely answer.


17 posted on 11/30/2010 11:02:10 AM PST by bigbob
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To: massgopguy
Whoever launched it probably shelled an island off of South Korea last week.

It probably was their big brother and said it was ok cause they were pizzed off at all the money owed to them. They just got screwed out of 173 billion by QE2 lowering the dollar 20%, is pushing to cap their trade to us from 8% to 4% of their GDP and the guy that did all this was sending a nuke aircraft carrier to cut doughnuts in their front yard.

I do not understand folks that can not see how plain and out-in-the-open this thing was. Do they need the offender to print a full page newspaper announcement saying “WE DID IT. HA HA!” to get what happened?

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18 posted on 11/30/2010 11:04:58 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: bigbob

I wouldn’t rule out someone accidentally placing their coffee cup on the firing button. This could simply be some major “Oops” and everyone involved is too embarrassed to own up to their incompetence. Stupid happens to the best of us.


19 posted on 11/30/2010 11:40:51 AM PST by Tar and Feathers (http://intensedebate.com/people/Tar_n_Feathers)
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To: agere_contra

Why did it have to be “rogue”?

It’s not like our goverment doesn’t have hardware they don’t talk about. I’d suspect it was something in that category. They were testing something new and it just happened to get caught, and their spokesmen had nothing but sausage in their hand when asked about it.

Gee.. a launch from a KNOWN test area, with a NOTAM scheduled (but possibly mis-scheduled). It doesn’t HAVE to be a foreign launch.

The simplest answer is usually correct, and the simplest answer here is our own guys launched something secret and are trying to mislead their way out of it.


20 posted on 11/30/2010 12:23:36 PM PST by Mr Inviso (ACORN=Arrogant Condescending Obama Ruining Nation)
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