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Rep. Cantor: Popular parts of health law will be tackled in GOP repeal plan
The Hill ^ | NOVEMBER 30, 2010 | Christina Wilkie

Posted on 11/30/2010 1:31:44 PM PST by RobinMasters

House Republicans are looking to repeal the healthcare reform law and replace it with one of their own early next year without interrupting two popular parts the administration has already begun to implement.

They include a mandate that bars discrimination of pre-existing conditions and a stipulation that allows young people to remain on their parents' insurance plans until age 26.

Incoming Republican Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said Monday that they would do this by passing a GOP healthcare bill at the same time as repeal efforts are underway.

Speaking to more than 100 students at American University, Cantor said, "What you will see us do is to push for repeal of the healthcare bill, and at the same time, contemporaneously, submit our replacement bill, that has in it the provisions [barring discrimination due to pre-existing conditions and offering young people affordable care options]."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 3rdparty; cantor; capitulate; duplicate; gop; obamacare; popular; repeal; waffle
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1 posted on 11/30/2010 1:31:46 PM PST by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters
We are seriously going to have to march on Washington to get these fargin bastiges to listen...
2 posted on 11/30/2010 1:34:12 PM PST by Mr. K ('profiling' would be much more offensive than grabbing your balls)
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To: RobinMasters

The Hill had to revise their initial posting because it was grossly in error.


3 posted on 11/30/2010 1:34:35 PM PST by Nip (TANSTAAFL)
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To: RobinMasters

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Get the government completely OUT of healthcare!!


4 posted on 11/30/2010 1:35:12 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: RobinMasters

I was unaware there were any “popular parts” to the Obamacare bill. I was of the impression the whole damned thing was to be repealed, reversed, eliminated, assassinated, wiped out, creamed, desecrated, whatever out of existance.

Are the Republican’s dragging butt?


5 posted on 11/30/2010 1:35:51 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: RobinMasters

I wish I could call Rep Cantor on the phone about this. I don’t understand the strategy.

Seems to me nobama would veto any bill that modifies his precious deathcare bill (unless, of course, the proposal makes it even more onerous).

Likewise, nobama will likely veto any “Republican” health care bill submitted to him.

The Republicans do not have even close to a veto proof majority. So, how will they do this?

Looks to me like defunding will be much more efficient.


6 posted on 11/30/2010 1:37:36 PM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: Mr. K

I think Cantor needs to be told: “This is Fargin’ War”!

No compromise. You won, now knock down THAT wall!

Rush probably nailed it - the R’s probably got ahold of some poll data that says most people like 26 year old freeloader kids living in their basements and mooching off their folks insurance...yeah sure they do!


7 posted on 11/30/2010 1:38:34 PM PST by bigbob
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To: RobinMasters

No ecxclusion for pre-existing conditions? Then why not just wait and get the insurance after you KNOW you’re gonna need it?


8 posted on 11/30/2010 1:39:01 PM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: RobinMasters

“and a stipulation that allows young people to remain on their parents’ insurance plans until age 26.”

When I was 26 I was a police officer, a father of two and a husband for 8 years. WTF is wrong with young people today?


9 posted on 11/30/2010 1:39:21 PM PST by Grunthor (I hope this one pleases you.)
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To: RobinMasters

Try as I might, I fail to be able to put my finger on that part of the Constitution which provides them the right to implement even these “popular” (or is that populist) mandates.


10 posted on 11/30/2010 1:39:29 PM PST by Ingtar (If Washington and his peers had been RINOs, we would still be a British colony.)
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To: RobinMasters

“offering young people affordable care options”

...I just voted and volunteered for this yokel. This is completely unnacceptable and he knows it! I voted for COMPLETE repeal! Government gone from healthcare! Why is this happening?


11 posted on 11/30/2010 1:39:54 PM PST by albie
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To: upchuck

Are you aware of what Cong Cantor is reported as having said on Matt Lauer’s show this morning? If true, it is disgusting! Check it out!


12 posted on 11/30/2010 1:40:08 PM PST by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: RobinMasters

THese dumb-asses are only going to change the name from ObamaCare to RinoCare. Nothing good will come of it.


13 posted on 11/30/2010 1:41:29 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: rockinqsranch

It’s “popular” to promise something for nothing to some people.

“Everyone will have good healthcare!”
“No one will be denied insurance!”
“And it’ll be FREE!”

Tell me that this isn’t what most sheeperals believe about 0bamacare.


14 posted on 11/30/2010 1:42:47 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: RobinMasters

Defund Obama’s entire Marxist agenda.

If there’s any bitching....start defunding the EPA, Dept. of Education....etc.

Let the commies aka Demoncrats and the State Run Media wail and cry like they always do.

You pu$$y Republicans either stop this Communist coup now or the people will have to do it later.


15 posted on 11/30/2010 1:43:34 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (I'm armed and Amish.)
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To: upchuck

I called his office today and spoke to someone about the “pre-existing condition”. I told her was like waiting to buy car insurance until you had a wreck. Someone is suppose to call me back. We’ll see.


16 posted on 11/30/2010 1:45:00 PM PST by TexasKate
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To: Mr. K

We have to save parts of it to kill it.....? Typical DC tortured political reasoning. Kinda like burning villages in Vietnam in order to save them. Of course, Obama will veto any major changes passed into law.


17 posted on 11/30/2010 1:46:26 PM PST by mono
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To: RobinMasters

The only chance for any unity of purpose is complete repeal. As soon as they decide to do it piecemeal, they’ll never agree on which parts. It’s a formula for failure.


18 posted on 11/30/2010 1:46:46 PM PST by Spok
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To: RobinMasters

I still don’t like what I hear. Keep the popular parts and get rid of the unpopular parts is a recipe for bigger deficits and more onerous regulation of insurers—which ultimately will lead to less insurers. Cantor better be willing to make some unpopular decisions—like stopping Medicare cost increases. The Dem method of price controls won’t work but Cantor better have a workable conservative solution.


19 posted on 11/30/2010 1:48:13 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: RobinMasters
I think the pre existing condition is an issue that should be fixed.

But companies shouldn't be forced to pay for insurance for 26 year old dependents.

20 posted on 11/30/2010 1:48:17 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Vote like Obama is on the ballot)
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To: Grunthor

“When I was 26 I was a police officer, a father of two and a husband for 8 years.”

i hear you. when i was 26 i was married and commanding a tank platoon in the bundesrepublik.


21 posted on 11/30/2010 1:49:53 PM PST by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: upchuck; rockinqsranch
I was unaware there were any “popular parts” to the Obamacare bill. I was of the impression the whole damned thing was to be repealed, reversed, eliminated, assassinated, wiped out, creamed, desecrated, whatever out of existance.

I don't understand the strategy

Yes, but that's because you don't understand how the Republicans have helped to create the situation we are in.

What Cantor means by "the parts that are popular" is, "the parts where we get to spend other people's money". The parts he is willing to do away with are the parts where the money is raised to pay for the benefits he wants to keep.

Ever since prop 13 started the whole corrupt tax cuts without spending cuts GOP game, the Republicans have been willing participants in a dance with the Democrats, and the only losers have been the shrinking productive sector.

OF COURSE Cantor won't repeal the whole bill. He'll keep the benefits, and cut the taxes.

22 posted on 11/30/2010 1:51:58 PM PST by Jim Noble (It's the tyranny, stupid!)
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23 posted on 11/30/2010 1:52:20 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Mr. K

What did you think a TARPer like Cantor would do?


24 posted on 11/30/2010 1:53:20 PM PST by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: RobinMasters
They include a mandate that bars discrimination of pre-existing conditions and a stipulation that allows young people to remain on their parents' insurance plans until age 26.

Sounds like good parts to keep to me.

25 posted on 11/30/2010 1:53:35 PM PST by McGruff
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To: HereInTheHeartland
I think the pre existing condition is an issue that should be fixed.

If you have a pre-existing condition and then buy a plan that pays to treat that condition at a premium rate that does not cover the costs of doing so then what you have purchased is not insurance, it is welfare.

26 posted on 11/30/2010 1:55:16 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: RobinMasters

The House nd Senate republicans wanted the HC bill to pass, and they really don’t want to repeal the damn thing. They are mostly all socialists.


27 posted on 11/30/2010 1:56:27 PM PST by stockpirate (David Horowitz Democratic Party has been "seized by a religious cult" of the left!)
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To: RobinMasters

The House and Senate republicans wanted the HC bill to pass, and they really don’t want to repeal the damn thing. They are mostly all socialists.


28 posted on 11/30/2010 1:56:32 PM PST by stockpirate (David Horowitz Democratic Party has been "seized by a religious cult" of the left!)
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To: McGruff
Sounds like good parts to keep to me.

Why buy "insurance" when you are healthy when you can just wait until you are sick?

29 posted on 11/30/2010 1:56:53 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: pissant

Tell me why Michele Bachmann is not Speaker of the House?

Now there’s a Republican with a brass set.

Why isn’t she the one meeting with the Usurper?.....She would smile and tell him his Commie-Death care is DOA.

Investigations into communist and un-American activity start when we assume power. Put some ice on that lip, Barry.


30 posted on 11/30/2010 1:56:56 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (I'm armed and Amish.)
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To: Grunthor

Why not 106!


31 posted on 11/30/2010 1:57:27 PM PST by stockpirate (David Horowitz Democratic Party has been "seized by a religious cult" of the left!)
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To: RobinMasters

For months I’ve been comparing the pre-existing conditions element in the bill to the government requiring that fire insurers sell fire insurance on a house even if it was already on fire. Apparently that is a good analogy because Rush Limbaugh used it today.


32 posted on 11/30/2010 1:57:54 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: RobinMasters

posted here
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2635078/posts?q=1&;page=187#187


33 posted on 11/30/2010 1:58:36 PM PST by libbylu
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To: rockinqsranch
I was unaware there were any “popular parts” to the Obamacare bill.

Scroll down. There are a number of people posting here that do not understand the concept of adverse selection.

34 posted on 11/30/2010 1:58:47 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: bigbob
I think Cantor needs to be told: “This is Fargin’ War”!

No compromise. You won, now knock down THAT wall!

The war needs to begin within our own ranks. The "pre-existing condition" issue seems to be confusing plenty of FReepers.

35 posted on 11/30/2010 2:01:03 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: RobinMasters

TO THE 112th US CONGRESS

END THE AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE ACT, AND ALL OTHER ENACTMENTS AS DEEMED BY THE 111th CONGRESS.

NANCY PELOSI REIMBURSES THE TAXPAYER FOR ALL FRIVOLOUS TRAVEL ON MILITARY PLANES (FAMILIY FRIENDS AND PETS) AND NANCY PELOSI REIMBURSES FOR ALL FLOWERS AND BOTTLED WATER.

YOU HAVE 100 DAYS TO CHANGE THE DIRECTION THAT THE IDIOT IN THE WHITE HOUSE HAS STRIVED TO ACHIEVE.

IN THAT 100 DAYS -
OBAMA’s ALL RECORDS ARE RELEASED.
OBAMA WILL NOT GO ANY TRIPS ABROAD.
CONGRESS WILL CUT SALARIES TO ALL FEDERAL EMPLOYEES TO 1986 PAY SCALE.
THE SIZE OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL BE REDUCED.
ALL FEDERAL EMPLOYEES WILL HAVE AHEALTH INSURANCE THAT THEY PAY ENTIRELY OUT OF THEIR POCKET.
NO LIFETIME BENEFITS
401K RETIREMENT PLANS

NO MORE BAILOUTS

THE CONGRESS WILL WORK FOR THE ENTIRE 100 DAYS WITH NO VACATIONS

BY THE WAY CONGRESS CRITTERS YOU FAIL TO DO ANYTHING THAT HELPS THIS COUNTRY, WE THE PEOPLE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO RUN YOUR ASSES RIGHT OUT OF TOWN SEIZE YOUR ASSETS AND THROUGH YOU OUT OF THIS COUNTRY PERMANENTLY
SINCERLY

JOHN Q PUBLIC


36 posted on 11/30/2010 2:01:39 PM PST by hondact200 ( Obama is Nuckin Futs!!! Obama has the Lead Touch unlike the Midas Touch of Gold)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“I think the pre existing condition is an issue that should be fixed.”

But then why not just wait until you KNOW you need it? A solution to enable portability makes snese to me.

“But companies shouldn’t be forced to pay for insurance for 26 year old dependents.”

The buyer pays for the insurance. If you add (or fail to remove) a 22 year-old, then you’re getting more coverage and probably paying a higher premium. And it’s a pretty healthy cohort. So I’m not sure it’s a net loss to the inscos at all.


37 posted on 11/30/2010 2:02:05 PM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: RobinMasters

Mabye we can clean the swamp of the rest of these anti American politicians with Tea Party members in 2012...


38 posted on 11/30/2010 2:15:10 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: RobinMasters

Cantor, you are an unabashed asshat! You need to feel the wrath of Kong!


39 posted on 11/30/2010 2:19:07 PM PST by IbJensen (The Marine Corps - When It Absolutely, Positively Has To Be Destroyed Overnight.)
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To: RobinMasters

afraid to lose their precious Independents if they start taking away the goodies I guess...


40 posted on 11/30/2010 2:19:45 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rogue yam
“If you have a pre-existing condition and then buy a plan that pays to treat that condition at a premium rate that does not cover the costs of doing so then what you have purchased is not insurance, it is welfare. “

There are many stories of people being dropped from insurance plans once they get a major illness.
In some cases the employers cut them loose to lessen costs.
That was one of the few issues I thought should have been addressed.

41 posted on 11/30/2010 2:20:45 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Vote like Obama is on the ballot)
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To: Jim Noble

You don’t understand the strategy because you don’t share common goals. Cantor’s goal is to grow government. Period.


42 posted on 11/30/2010 2:22:58 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: RobinMasters
So the GOP wants to replace the cancer of Obamacare with just a bad case of cramps and diarrhea.
43 posted on 11/30/2010 2:24:50 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: RobinMasters

First step to a 3rd party?


44 posted on 11/30/2010 2:45:11 PM PST by moovova (Don't let Obama spoil the word "hope" for you...)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
There are many stories of people being dropped from insurance plans once they get a major illness.
In some cases the employers cut them loose to lessen costs.
That was one of the few issues I thought should have been addressed.

You are confusing two separate issues.

One issue is whether an insurer can refuse to sell a policy to someone with a pre-existing condition.

The other issue is under what circumstances an insurer is legally entitled to refuse to continue to insure an existing customer.

Leftists often lump these sorts of disparate issues together in order to confuse people into supporting intrusive, unconstitutional government.

Please do not assist them in doing this.

45 posted on 11/30/2010 2:46:01 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Electric Graffiti
You pu$$y Republicans either stop this Communist coup now or the people will have to do it later.

And we guarantee that it will not be in a kissy face diplomatic way. IOW buy your Cayman Island condo now and avoid the rush.

46 posted on 11/30/2010 2:47:20 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Electric Graffiti

Your words can tremble the mountains!


47 posted on 11/30/2010 2:53:20 PM PST by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: rogue yam
“You are confusing two separate issues.”

Yes they are two separate issues. But they are both very similar issues and are 2 of the issues that need to be fixed.
And tort reform.
If we had fixed these issues; we might not have the mess that we have now with the current law.

48 posted on 11/30/2010 3:57:12 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Vote like Obama is on the ballot)
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To: swain_forkbeard

barring discrimination due to pre-existing conditions

That’s not insurance....that’s welfare!!!!

Kind of like getting house insurance after the fire.

Insurance companies are not in a bubble, they will price their product accordingly and people will howl.


49 posted on 11/30/2010 4:24:58 PM PST by ak267
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To: Don Corleone
And we guarantee that it will not be in a kissy face diplomatic way

You betcha.

The Left had better hope elections work to kick them out of power.

If they don't, the alternative is very, very ugly.

In 1965 Indonesia, the rivers ran red with commie blood for 3 days - and we've got the Ohio-Mississippi-Missouri system to work with.

50 posted on 11/30/2010 4:31:06 PM PST by Jim Noble (It's the tyranny, stupid!)
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