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(Vanity) Anyone watching Napolitano on O'Reilly? Gotta say I agree with him

Posted on 11/30/2010 5:26:24 PM PST by Red in Blue PA

It's not a crime to think a certain way. It may not be popular to say it (heck I know it isn't), but thought is not a crime, if the govt plants the seed as was done in Portland. Hate to agree with him on this one, but how many people have ever had an untoward thought toward DC? Thought is not a crime....hate crimes are Unconstitutional, and I believe the Judge is correct that this is too.


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1 posted on 11/30/2010 5:26:26 PM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

islamism should always be considered a crime against the US


2 posted on 11/30/2010 5:27:58 PM PST by ari-freedom (Islam is at war against America, while America is at the mall.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

If what Napolitano says is true, then this is very similar to Ruby Ridge.


3 posted on 11/30/2010 5:29:01 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

If they find the guy was coerced by the govt, I agree with Napolitano. However, if they did not, and he thought he was blowing up people, but it just didn’t work, then I think he is guilty


4 posted on 11/30/2010 5:29:06 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (DEFUND NPR, PBS, THE TSA AND THE U.N.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Napolitano is in error. Every now and then he starts creating semantic differentials like a Mafia consigliere ~ it's still wrong.

Did he grow up in that environment or what?

5 posted on 11/30/2010 5:30:05 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: Wisconsinlady

How many people would push a button if they were told it would blow up DC? A lot of those on both the left and the right....but they are not actively looking to blow it up.


6 posted on 11/30/2010 5:30:27 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Red in Blue PA

bill’s a bit bitchy tonight.


7 posted on 11/30/2010 5:32:20 PM PST by ken21 (who runs the gop?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

bill’s a bit bitchy tonight.


8 posted on 11/30/2010 5:32:41 PM PST by ken21 (who runs the gop?)
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Tonight?

That’s his schtick.


9 posted on 11/30/2010 5:33:14 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: muawiyah

What did he say that was in error?


10 posted on 11/30/2010 5:34:35 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I agree with him too! We need to stop interfering with terrorists trying to kill Americans. We need to be fair and allow them to kill as many Americans as they can before we try to bring them to trial.


11 posted on 11/30/2010 5:35:55 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Sittin' in da back of da bus since January 2009.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Hate crime laws, like abortion and other things, were placed into law before the public knew what happened.

The ruling class has been sneaking around to do wrong for a long time.

I have always followed politics and the news; however, I was an adult before I realized that federal regulations out of the executive branch were ruling our lives without one vote from our representatives.


12 posted on 11/30/2010 5:37:00 PM PST by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Islamism)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

If it wasn’t for the FBI, there would be no case!


13 posted on 11/30/2010 5:39:28 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Red in Blue PA

How do you have a case on attempting to blow something up? Seems to me that a “bomb” that can’t be blown up is enough to find a defendant guilty.

Sometimes the law has to be changed to keep up with the times.


14 posted on 11/30/2010 5:39:39 PM PST by Ex-Democrat Dean
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To: Raider Sam

What did he say? He sympathized with this nutcase. The kid needs locked up on any number of charges.


15 posted on 11/30/2010 5:39:39 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: Red in Blue PA

For those of us not close to a TV, give us the short points, please. What’s he right about?


16 posted on 11/30/2010 5:40:23 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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The thought was not the crime in Portland, the action was. Further, the action was not a minor step over an arbitrary line. It was intent to commit murder.

Entrapment is going after someone that would not otherwise commit the crime. Offering someone $1000 to leave a bag of crap on a doorstep is entrapment. Acting on a tip that someone is seeking a hit man by pretending to be a real hit man isn't entrapment. One creates a crime, the other allows it to proceed. Hiring a hit man is not a thought crime, it is an actual action.

Our little muzzie friend in Portland fits into the latter category.

17 posted on 11/30/2010 5:41:59 PM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Thought is not a crime....hate crimes are Unconstitutional


George Orwell In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

18 posted on 11/30/2010 5:42:13 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you, O you most proud, said the Lord God of hosts.)
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To: Ex-Democrat Dean

Depends on how you look at it.

If a person buys an empty gun, and attempts to rob a bank, has he committed a crime?

I’m asking, because I don’t know the (legal) answer, but I suspect if you can prove intent, then you have proven enough.


19 posted on 11/30/2010 5:42:32 PM PST by RangerM (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel. - Robert Frost.)
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To: OldDeckHand

The FBI planted the seed in the kids head.....without the FBI, there would have been no case.


20 posted on 11/30/2010 5:42:42 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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