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THE REAL PENTAGON POLL: 91% OF SERVICE MEMBERS REJECT HOMOSEXUAL LEADERS - 1 IN 4 WOULD QUIT
AIPNews.com ^ | Dec. 1, 2010 | Gordon James Klingenschmitt

Posted on 11/30/2010 8:53:11 PM PST by EternalVigilance

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To: EternalVigilance
This is a stunt by Gates too. This is all in fact of the fact (IIRC) that no modern army that accepted open homosexuality never won a war!

If that is true the U.S. would be stupid to force this on the country to make a point of perversion. So for less than what? 5% of the forces we will change a law that was only slightly bearable before?

Does time for a revolution draw closer every day or what? For PC reasons we are going to destroy our countries military? Pathetic.
51 posted on 11/30/2010 11:55:38 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: Windflier
There's no way I can see that the Obama admin can get away with this lie.

Sorry to say but you are incorrect. The last election showed that at least 50% of the country supported Obama. More than that did not feel it necessary to get rid of senators (NV, Delaware, Alaska, California, Colorado, Washington) who allow the WH to maintain control of the legislative process.

The people WANT the control split and WANT Obama as their president.
Fools.
52 posted on 12/01/2010 12:11:34 AM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: EternalVigilance

Ooops -———————— The libs will never learn ............... FRegards


53 posted on 12/01/2010 12:58:34 AM PST by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms .................. FRegards)
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To: EternalVigilance

Re-posted Here: http://ronbosoldier.blogspot.com/2010/12/queers-rejected-by-us-military-rank.html


54 posted on 12/01/2010 1:04:48 AM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: ForGod'sSake
If we can survive two more years; not long at all in the larger scheme of things, we will prevail. God willing.

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I hear you friend.

Go suck a straw Zer0!


55 posted on 12/01/2010 1:18:16 AM PST by BobP (hat about the pensions and)
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To: EternalVigilance

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm


56 posted on 12/01/2010 2:51:03 AM PST by SF_Redux
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To: EternalVigilance

The U.S. Military is NO place for liberals social experiments.


57 posted on 12/01/2010 3:36:05 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) The more I see and know Obammy the more I think he's an a-hole.)
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To: Joe Boucher

You’re absolutely right.


58 posted on 12/01/2010 4:25:03 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: EternalVigilance

Even though this is a very serious matter. I did have to laugh. It brought back a painful memory of the company I used to work for.

They had sent out a questionnaire to all employees asking what was the top thing that the company should do to improve employee morale.

In my department it was 100%, increase our pay. Lo and behold the result was..... Improve communication between upper management and the employees.

Yeah, the fix was in.


59 posted on 12/01/2010 4:28:46 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: EternalVigilance

bump to post


60 posted on 12/01/2010 4:33:07 AM PST by prairiebreeze (The Professional Left: Using Your Money to Promote Their Ideology Since the 1930's)
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To: EternalVigilance
The Obama faction is pushing one of the most blatant BIG LIE campaigns ever...

Yes, that's the correct term.

This Big Lie is being done with its eager accomplices in the MSM, who are heartily spreading this Big Lie.

61 posted on 12/01/2010 4:37:27 AM PST by snowsislander (Chicago-style politics at a national level is a national disgrace.)
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To: The Working Man
Gays in the military report: Outrage muffled by media [more on the Obama BIG LIE campaign]
62 posted on 12/01/2010 4:46:55 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: Windflier
Gates is a pathological liar, just like his master.

These people will destroy the US military if DODT is repealed.

There will be LOTS of violence, wrongful dishonorable discharges, TONS of cover-ups, more lies and all kinds of senseless destruction if the democrats force open homosexuality into the ranks.

63 posted on 12/01/2010 4:58:32 AM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: EternalVigilance

bookmark


64 posted on 12/01/2010 5:07:38 AM PST by panthermom
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To: John W

BTTT


65 posted on 12/01/2010 5:14:16 AM PST by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: John W

I’m thinking this needs lots of bumping back to the top today.

The American people need to make it clear to their Senators: Those who support this Obama BIG LIE campaign WILL be fired.


66 posted on 12/01/2010 5:19:32 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: JSteff

What job has been offered to the toy soldier Gates once he does his Presidents dirty work?


67 posted on 12/01/2010 5:26:19 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: EternalVigilance

Thanks for posting this, EV.


68 posted on 12/01/2010 5:34:05 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Prole

These people will destroy the US military if DODT is repealed.


Is there any other real point to this agenda?
The whole point is to get people of character who don’t conform to the worldly (Luciferian) value system out of the military.
This has to be done before they can use the military against those who would oppose their [Luciferian] agenda.


69 posted on 12/01/2010 5:37:10 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB

S0 we have 1.5 Million Active Duty and another million reserve and guard and this survey was given the “widest dissemination”... Why did only 175,000 respond? Could it be the majority would not respond to the survey because they were opposed to gays in the military but that, under the current administration, to express that on a survey would come back to haunt them??? If you look at it from that perspective, the VAST “silent” majority of military members are opposed to gays in the military.... in my opinion which BTW is not the military’s or Government’s official opinion.


70 posted on 12/01/2010 5:43:57 AM PST by John.Galt2012 (I'll take Liberty and you can keep the "Change"!)
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To: John.Galt2012

in my opinion which BTW is not the military’s or Government’s official opinion


I’m glad you added this lest anyone reading Free Republic postings be mistaken... :)


71 posted on 12/01/2010 5:46:02 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: trisham

Sure. If we don’t get the truth out, who will?


72 posted on 12/01/2010 5:49:58 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: EternalVigilance

Exactly right.


73 posted on 12/01/2010 5:54:58 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: MrB

Yes, I haven’t figured out how to make a “tongue in check” icon yet. ;o)


74 posted on 12/01/2010 6:03:01 AM PST by John.Galt2012 (I'll take Liberty and you can keep the "Change"!)
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To: Williams
The ramifications of making our military the PERFECT place for homosexuals to meet and greet and have an open banquet of available like minded orgasmic hoo hah is beyond the pale.

One of the greatest unspoken but known to all parts of being a member of the military is the knowingness of that strong tie of MANLY STRENGH and HONOR.

For men who stand tall and fight for all of us, that walk of strength is important and it includes being a fully invested man or woman in every regard.

For many, there IS no HONOR in seeking out same sex trysts.

Would ANY heterosexual want to KNOW that the person they are sharing a shower with is LUSTING after them with full permission to do so?

Of course physical advances can be thwarted, but to have to be uncomfortable being gawked at or oogled or whateve is CREEPY.

Everyone knows this.

Soon homosexuals would form groups, seeking special treatment, wailing about unfair practices and rapidly men and women, there for our country and honor would leave. And why not?

Homosexuals have PROVEN they have no honor. Just look at the gay parade held in San Fran and the depravity will make your heart sick.

We need to call our congressmen and women NOW and tell them to review the entire report....homosexuals HAVE NO BUSINESS openly flaunting an abnormal lust that could impact the daily lives of so many on a very basic level.

Our incredible organization, the Boy Scouts of America, has been racked by homosexuals attempting to make this venue of little boys a banquet for the picking and forced many organizations to stop supporting it....VERY SICK.

Are they going to do this to our military.

If homosexuals want to be open about their sexual desires, let them do it in bars, homes and bedrooms. They are not a put upon club of specific sexual lusts; they are a group that needs love but not permission to spread their desires and make others bow to their demands.

Do not let the homosexuals control our military.

75 posted on 12/01/2010 6:05:59 AM PST by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: JSteff
Sorry to say but you are incorrect. The last election showed that at least 50% of the country supported Obama.

Not sure I follow your logic. What's any of that got to do with whether or not Obama & Co. can get away with this Big Lie?

76 posted on 12/01/2010 6:09:24 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Republic

Put any random group of people together, after a while they form bonds outside of their work. Those bonds many include shared interest in sports, sense of humor, working out, etc.

Now carry those natural instincts into a military scenario, you are together 24/7, gay soldier will automatically gravite to one another, you will not be able to stop it. Once that occurs so will the relationships. I don’t care on bit what the rules are, they will be IMPOSSIBLE to enforce! I don’t care that the gays say they won’t be looking or groping the straights, they won’t have to, they will become their own group amongst eachother and it will be a free for all.

Now take it another step further, you are deployed for 7-14 mos. Relationships will be formed while on deployment. These guys are stressed enough and then they will have to deal with and having to watch homosexual relationships right in their faces? Yeah, that will be great for cohesion!

Oh yes, and lets imagine a day at Basic, first we will do some hand to hand combative training and then after chow, we will so some sensitivity training???????????


77 posted on 12/01/2010 6:24:59 AM PST by panthermom
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To: EternalVigilance
Point of order...your reporting of the statistics is, just like the reports you are countering, lumping multiple response categories together.

Why don't you report the full breakdown? Lumping mixed in with negative is as bad as lumping mixed in with positive.

78 posted on 12/01/2010 6:28:22 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: EternalVigilance

the media including FOX have been disgusting in their reporting over this.

Any one combat vet like me will tell you most do not want to share a room or a shower or do survival training with queers..
People seem to ignore that we’re talking about men sticking their dicks into another mans arse FHS .

Look who released the documents to wikileaks, a queer.


79 posted on 12/01/2010 7:18:25 AM PST by manc (Homosexuality is a mental disorder as is liberalism. FOX and the media are pushing the queer agenda)
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To: John.Galt2012

I know there was one DADT survey that you had to use your CAC card to answer. Now who wants to answer a survey honestly if you know that the higher-ups know your identity and your answers to the survey?


80 posted on 12/01/2010 7:22:39 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction (I can see November from my house!)
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To: Prole

You forgot discrimination lawsuits, EO complaints, G&L observances, perhaps promotion quotas...


81 posted on 12/01/2010 7:29:34 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction (I can see November from my house!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Funny...every time a lib whines about this issue thay talk about all the valuable people we’re losing because of DADT,like the Arab language analysts who chose their crotches over their country and got kicked out.


82 posted on 12/01/2010 7:40:33 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: ForGod'sSake

Shep is as hard to watch as Alan Colmes ever was.


83 posted on 12/01/2010 7:42:17 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: EternalVigilance; OldDeckHand
Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ)

ART. 125. SODOMY

(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration , however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.

(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

Would repeal of DADT nullify this punitive article? There seems to be difference between stating one's sexual preference and being observed demonstrating that difference.

84 posted on 12/01/2010 7:45:53 AM PST by verity
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To: verity
"Would repeal of DADT nullify this punitive article? "

The short answer is no. However, if DADT is repealed, the lifespan of Art. 125 is probably not very long. If the appellate courts affirm the recent prohibition against DADT, then I'd say Art. 125 would be struck within a few months.

You might be surprised that very few (virtually none) separations under DADT include this particular specification. Almost always, it's used against someone who is engaged in heterosexual relations, albeit not always consensual relations.

85 posted on 12/01/2010 7:54:33 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: EternalVigilance

I know one thing, if DADT is repealed, it will hasten my decision to retire after 38+ years.


86 posted on 12/01/2010 7:55:13 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (111TH congress = most shameful ever)
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To: OldDeckHand

As always, I appreciate your insight.


87 posted on 12/01/2010 8:28:47 AM PST by verity
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To: Arrowhead1952

38+ years???


88 posted on 12/01/2010 8:29:18 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction (I can see November from my house!)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Yep, started in 1972.


89 posted on 12/01/2010 8:33:31 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (111TH congress = most shameful ever)
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To: EternalVigilance

I ran Norton right after posting this and went to bed. My computer had a full scan three days ago. Normally it finds one or two tracking cookies and that’s it. This morning it showed 66 resolved problems.

Who runs the Defense Department computers? Porn companies? I probably will have to find a source that filters out the bugs to read the original documents.


90 posted on 12/01/2010 8:49:55 AM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Just checked your profile. National Guard. Thank you for your service!

BTW: I miss Texas! :D


91 posted on 12/01/2010 8:54:27 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction (I can see November from my house!)
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To: Republic
One of the greatest unspoken but known to all parts of being a member of the military is the knowingness of that strong tie of MANLY STRENGH and HONOR.

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Agreed. Unfortunately, even tragically, those words today are not considered acceptable by a growing segment of our society.

92 posted on 12/01/2010 8:59:05 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

See FReepmail in a few.


93 posted on 12/01/2010 9:01:25 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (111TH congress = most shameful ever)
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To: EternalVigilance

(One half million troops will QUIT the service early, destroying our national security.)

Isn’t that the plan?


94 posted on 12/01/2010 9:23:07 AM PST by Grunthor (I hope this one pleases you.)
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To: ZULU
My guess is the Pentagon Brass - political generals

My guess, many of them are queer themselves.

95 posted on 12/01/2010 11:26:17 AM PST by itsahoot (We the people allowed Republican leadership to get us here, only God's Grace can get us out.)
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To: EternalVigilance
I don't hate gay men or gay women, and I'm sure they have contributed in some good ways....but you can not allow heterosexual men to live with, bathe with, sleep in the same room with, etc with FEMALES... and NOT expect consequences......

so why do they think openly gay men won't be as disasterous to heterosexual men?.....they pursue young men, period...they oogle young men... the male creature is by nature whether gay or straight, constantly seeking sexual fulfillment ...IT'S WHAT THEY DO...and its natural ..

what a disaster...I wouldn't have my kid join a group that allowed such blatant danger...

96 posted on 12/01/2010 12:18:07 PM PST by cherry
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To: cherry

I have to add that I feel sorry for young men these days....men need to have time to be with other men in MASCULINE ways, to bond, and the services have played a big part in that development..Political correctiness is destroying that opportunity. ...now its all one big open attack on their sexuality, their Christianity, their values, their morals....


97 posted on 12/01/2010 12:23:15 PM PST by cherry
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To: EternalVigilance
Official Pentagon DADT Report (PDF)

The questions are clearly tilted in one direction.

98 posted on 12/01/2010 12:27:54 PM PST by lwd
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To: Republic
This too shall come to pass.

Where did I read (?)



And why don't they believe God?
This is what you get, when you allow homosexuals in the military,
99 posted on 12/01/2010 12:48:07 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: EternalVigilance
I'm not sure I understand: where did this poll come from and where did the poll come from that states everyone in the military thinks repeal is a good idea?

Has anyone even considered what will happen when gay service men and women are not promoted? Or when a plum assignment they desire does not materialize? They'll blame it on ‘ homophobia ‘, there will be hearings, the press will champion more than a few cases and the careers of officers involved with such cases will be finished.

Officers with gays in their command will be sorely tempted not be rate them honestly for fear of retaliation. Same damned thing happened in the case of Major Hassan. Everyone knew the man was a true thread but what was being done about it? No one dared to stand up as they'd be branded anti-muslim and they'd have to kiss their career goodbye. It was pass the buck with Hassan and it sure as hell will be pass the buck with any half wit homosexual in the service.

I'm not even going to get into gay officers giving their boyfriends promotions, sexual harassment by gay officers of enlisted men and on and on it goes.

100 posted on 12/01/2010 6:22:06 PM PST by warsaw44
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