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Lakin not allowed witnesses, documents, explanation at court-martial Dec. 14!
www.greeleygazette.com ^ | 11/30/2010 | Jack Minor

Posted on 11/30/2010 11:42:20 PM PST by rxsid

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To: rxsid
Not to mention, the unanswered charges of treason by retired military personal...namely LCDR Walter Fitzpatrick (U.S. Naval academy graduate)

So what? I'm a Navy graduate as well, as was LCDR Charles Swift, the clown who glorified in defending Hamdan. Does that make Chuck "Not Too" Swift someone we should all respect?

When was the last time military (either active or retired) openly accused a sitting President of treason? Yet no action on the serious charge of treason. Crickets.

I dunno. We do know there were some maggots in the military who made some outrageous attacks upon President Bush. But if members of the military wants to exercise their rights citizens to accuse the President of treason, that's their business. But if they feel that they cannot take orders from their chain of command, then the proper thing to do is resign your commission, not politicize your active service and take our military down the road to becoming a pseudo-Praetorian Guard. As to why their charges, which largely amount to disagreements over policy, haven't been investigated as "treason", I have no idea. Probably because they are more policy disagreements than anything else.

And to clarify, I personally believe the President is somebody who sympathizes more with Marxism and the developing Third World than with the U.S., which I think he deeply resents as just another "exploiter." But unfortunately, our fellow citizens elected the bum, and we're going to have to wait on them to get rid of him in 2012. I hope.

I resigned my commission in 1992 because I didn't want to serve under Clinton. That is what you are supposed to do if you have got a problem with the CIC. Politicizing the military -- particularly when, as in this case, it will not do a damn bit of good -- is just doing more harm to a country that already needs all the help it can get.

481 posted on 12/07/2010 12:55:56 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: PA-RIVER

This, from a link on Drudge, we capture and release Taliban fighters. I simply can’t allow my Son to join the Army under a commander who allows this kind of crap, hoping his own commander in chief doesn’t put a bullet in his back:

More than 500 suspected Taliban fighters detained by U.S. forces have been released from custody at the urging of Afghan government officials, angering both American troops and some Afghans who oppose the policy on the grounds that many of those released return to the battlefield to kill NATO soldiers and Afghan civilians.


482 posted on 12/07/2010 1:02:10 PM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
So what? So is a graduate of the Naval Academy just a nothing? No big deal? Dime a dozen? They're everywhere? Easy to get in there? That's so what!

So far as I know, there has never been another time when multiple members of the military (retired)...let alone one member, has charged a sitting "CinC" with treason. It's unprecedented.

Those guys who charged Barry with treason could be brought up on mutiny charges. Why haven't they? Because Barry (& Holder) can't touch them! Otherwise, they would then (I should say "should") be allowed discovery during their trial.

The military must be assured they have a legal chain of command reaching up to and including the Commander in Chief. As you know, Officers like Lakin swear their oaths to the Constitution, not a person like Barry.

483 posted on 12/07/2010 1:59:31 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Actually, it's most relavent to the issue. Part of LTC Lakin's contention is that Barry isn't a Natural Born Citizen because he was born to a foreign father and inherited foreign citizenship. The Constitution requires him to be one.

Following natural law, you can't "serve two masters." If your born a citizen of two countries, you have divided allegiance. Either your born with singular allegiance or not...whether or not your moved when your 1 month or 1 year or 10 years...it's the citizenship condition at birth that the framers choose to agree upon. "Natural Born Citizen." Don't like it, get the Constitution amended. A mere majority rule in an election isn't the lawful way to change the requirement.

484 posted on 12/07/2010 2:07:38 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: PA-RIVER
And my Son will not join an Army that salutes that Communist POS.

I guess the military will just have to limp along without him them.

485 posted on 12/07/2010 2:24:24 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Add to that list (as least as a verbal "comment") General Paul Vallely (ret):

"Boyles brings up A.G. Eric Holder putting terrorists on trial:
“Well, he should be locked up. He should be, put handcuffs on him and also Obama, and taken away. I think they’re conducting treason, myself…”"

486 posted on 12/07/2010 2:41:28 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid
So what? So is a graduate of the Naval Academy just a nothing? No big deal? Dime a dozen? They're everywhere? Easy to get in there? That's so what!

Well, I'm one, and so is that D-bag Chuck Swift. So believing someone just because they're a Boat School grad is going to twist you up into some pretty nasty contradictions.

So far as I know, there has never been another time when multiple members of the military (retired)...let alone one member, has charged a sitting "CinC" with treason. It's unprecedented.

First, I guess you must have missed all those nutbags, including some former military folk, who accused Bush of treason for supposedly being responsible for 9/11. If you did, here's just one of many links you can try:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/tag/treason/

Second, I don't see anything in the Constitution disqualifying a sitting President simply because some retired military people think he's a traitor. If that was the case, I suppose people should have refused to obey Bush's orders based on the accusations by some military people that he was responsible for 9/11.

487 posted on 12/07/2010 3:06:56 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: El Sordo

Address your complaints to Ben Franklin..one of the Founders:

“Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small.

All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so.

And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also,

the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth.

I could wish their Numbers were increased.

And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People?

why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red?

But perhaps I am partial to the Complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind” Ben Franklin - Founder.

Those pesky words natural and Kind.

Yes LTC Lakin will probably be sacrificed to avoid the intent of the Founders meaning of natural born citizen.

http://www.franklinpapers.org/franklin/framedVolumes.jsp

Search the files to locate the letter “Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind” Benjamin Franklin Papers...


488 posted on 12/07/2010 5:41:37 PM PST by bushpilot1
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