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EDITORIAL: The New Gay Army on parade--Pentagon promotes rigged 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' report
The Washington Times ^ | December 1, 2010 | Editorial

Posted on 12/01/2010 4:57:24 PM PST by jazusamo

The Pentagon on Tuesday released a long-awaited report intended to advance a key campaign promise made by then-Sen. Obama to the fringe activist groups that supported his presidential aspirations. Now as commander in chief, President Obama has made it clear to military brass that he expects them to embrace the LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered) agenda. It should come as no surprise that the release of the military's new "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" survey was carefully orchestrated to accomplish this mission.

From the outset, the Pentagon had no interest in eliciting honest responses from the troops about whether the law outlawing homosexual conduct in the ranks should be preserved or repealed. Instead, soldiers, airmen, sailors and Marines were addressed in terms implying that repeal is inevitable. The Obama administration leaked selected results to sympathetic media to create the illusion that the troops have no problem stacking the barracks and submarines with homosexuals. The final report's release is a last-ditch effort to provide Democratic members of Congress the cover they need to ram through the law's repeal in the lame-duck session.

It isn't going to work. A closer examination of the headline result shows that 63 percent of respondents live off-base or in civilian housing and consequently answered that a change in policy might not affect them. Those in combat roles - where unit cohesion and trust are life-and-death concerns - gave a different response. About half with combat experience said a change would have a negative or very negative impact in the field or at sea...


(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: dadt; dadtreport; fdrq; fraud; gates; homosexualagenda; lgbt; military; robertgates; survey
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1 posted on 12/01/2010 4:57:27 PM PST by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo
The Pentagon is no longer a respected group.. a truthful group...... obamanation’s control is very obvious... weaken, weaken, kill
2 posted on 12/01/2010 5:03:33 PM PST by bareford101 (For me, there is no difference in a tolerant, open mind and a cess pool. Both are open to filth.)
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To: bareford101

They will destroy the military for a pat on the back from Obama.


3 posted on 12/01/2010 5:05:05 PM PST by Iron Munro (This is our culture; fight for it. This is our flag; pick it up. This is our country; take it back.)
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To: jazusamo

Gates is despicable. I saw him making the comment that “the American people have spoken.” Grinning like a fool. I have no respect for that man.


4 posted on 12/01/2010 5:05:46 PM PST by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: bareford101

They are bureaucrats doing their masters bidding. They want to use the Armed Forces for social engineering. That is not why it’s there.


5 posted on 12/01/2010 5:07:10 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: jazusamo
I come from a 3rd generation military family, if this passes I'm strongly pushing my children not to consider military service and I imagine many others will do the same...
6 posted on 12/01/2010 5:08:23 PM PST by apillar
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To: bareford101; Iron Munro; MizSterious

Gates and Mullen are to blame for going along with Obama and his thugs on this program of deceit. They are both despicable for not resisting and resigning if that was the only way to resist.


7 posted on 12/01/2010 5:09:11 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

“There is no compelling reason to do this.” (Elaine Donnelly, president of the Center for Military Readiness)

Except if the CIC wants to have...

“...hundreds of thousands of troops who, according to the results, would begin planning their exit from the military if the policy were changed.”

So, because we know the CIC does not really care about the gay lobby, and this is the only supporting action he has taken for them, then the reason must be the destruction of the greatest military on earth. Agreed?


8 posted on 12/01/2010 5:10:36 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: apillar

I understand and agree though it’s so disappointing, especially now that we’ve had an all volunteer military for years. I’m sure that’s one of the reasons Zer0 and his bunch want this, to degrade our fine military.


9 posted on 12/01/2010 5:13:43 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Will they be able to “march” in parade with their twisting arms over their heads and their twisting legs going in the opposite direction?


10 posted on 12/01/2010 5:14:38 PM PST by noah (noah)
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To: huldah1776

Agreed!


11 posted on 12/01/2010 5:16:13 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Kinda reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Qhbdijv5Y


12 posted on 12/01/2010 5:28:52 PM PST by Bluenose
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To: jazusamo; Iron Munro

Very sad indeed. My son went into the military under Reagan, reenlisted and then left once Clinton got into gear and tried to make the military into a bastion of affirmative action and stupid progressivism. In those days, btw, the favored affirmative action group was females (of any color).

My son said that the people who didn’t leave under Clinton (or who joined under Clinton) were essentially either those who agreed with this stuff or didn’t even want to think about it, or those who had a lot of years and didn’t want to surrender their pensions.

The latter group is gone, but I suspect that there are many from the Clinton era who are now in command positions and are probably just fine with this.


13 posted on 12/01/2010 5:30:31 PM PST by livius
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To: jazusamo
HERE IS WHAT EVERYONE SHOULD NOTE FROM GATES:

Gates highlighted the recommendations of the report putting “a strong emphasis on education, training and leader development,” with “a solid road map for a successful full implementation of repeal, assuming that the military is given sufficient time and preparation to get the job done right.

The "EDUCATION" part is going to be the part that will be amazing! The soldier will now be "educated" in the "benefits" of being a homo. If a soldier has any moral beliefs relating to homosexuality he will be warned to not speak them so as not to "offend" the Rump Rangers.

Bottom line: The Rump Rangers "morality" will override everyone elses moral code in the name of political correctness.

14 posted on 12/01/2010 5:31:05 PM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: noah
Will they be able to “march” in parade with their twisting arms over their heads...

Picture the Village People singing Y..M..C..A..

15 posted on 12/01/2010 5:31:58 PM PST by moovova (Don't let Obama spoil the word "hope" for you...)
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To: bareford101

So what’s the problem? Give them their own unit and put them on the front lines. Bring back the draft for gays and lesbians.


16 posted on 12/01/2010 5:32:25 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: missnry

Political correctness may very well destroy our great nation, it’s gotten a foothold that will be extremely hard to eliminate.


17 posted on 12/01/2010 5:39:27 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
On some talk show today I heard that only 25% of the military sent the questionnaire even responded. So how can Gates claim he knows what the feelings of the troops are? Morons all of this administration. The military chaplains are going to have a real problem - will they be able to use the bible anymore, or will the military issue their own cleaned up version of the bible?

The military should not be used for social engineering, especially in a time when we are fighting two wars.
18 posted on 12/01/2010 5:40:12 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
So what’s the problem? Give them their own unit and put them on the front lines.

I like the way you think, grandma...

19 posted on 12/01/2010 5:45:13 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: huldah1776

He appointed at least one gay Supreme Court Justice.


20 posted on 12/01/2010 5:53:59 PM PST by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: Flycatcher

No kidding, we could put an end to this pro-longed controversy real quick by advocating a draft of all gays and lesbians and put them in their own units and put them in harm’s way. Problem solved.


21 posted on 12/01/2010 6:05:31 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: apillar

I have done the same and I am sad that my families strong tradition of military service will come to an end because of thie act. Four of us have retired from the Military with over 105 years of total service just among the four of us. I have advised a nephew and my daughter not to join.


22 posted on 12/01/2010 6:06:32 PM PST by OldGoatCPO
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To: jazusamo
I expect there will be a lot of "accidents". No way is a combat troop going to depend on someone who is undependable. They just won't be trusted.

The gays who can be trusted are perfectly comfortable with "don't ask, don't tell". I would imagine their closest friends know, but they don't need to shove their lifestyle in the faces of casual acquaintances.

23 posted on 12/01/2010 6:14:05 PM PST by McGavin999 ("I was there when we had the numbers, but didn't have the principles"-Jim DeMint)
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To: McGavin999

I believe you said it well and I have no doubt that’s correct.


24 posted on 12/01/2010 6:18:34 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: apillar

Only one problem - they plan to re-institute the draft.


25 posted on 12/01/2010 6:22:06 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: jazusamo; All

Read the official pentagon’s website. It appears clear to me that they are already prepared to implement the repeal of DADT. You can read it for yourselves without my spin.

http://www.defense.gov/home/features/2010/0610_gatesdadt/


26 posted on 12/01/2010 6:23:11 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: jazusamo

Gates is a lying SOS. First S is “Sack.”


27 posted on 12/01/2010 6:30:53 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Iron Munro

I predict that the minute DADT is repealed and the gays are free to be themselves in the open, there will be no curbs against hitting on straight service people. Any military person who REJECTS the advances of a gay will be deemed guilty of a HATE CRIME.


28 posted on 12/01/2010 6:30:53 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: Bluenose
Kinda reminds me of this:

Sgt. Steve Brick: We've decided that these people work to the best of their ability in their own environment. That's why we've formed a special Gay Brigade.

SNL 11/15/1980

(Cadence)

I'm in the Army, and I'm gay That don't mean I swish and sway, I won't go down on anyone, Uncle Sam is the only one

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/80/80agay.phtml

29 posted on 12/01/2010 6:37:34 PM PST by defal33
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To: jazusamo

I used to suggest to young adults who weren’t sure what direction they wanted to go, to look into joining the military. Today. I would NEVER tell them that.


30 posted on 12/01/2010 6:42:33 PM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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To: jazusamo

Repealing this is a nightmare. I know I am preaching to the choir but......

Statistically the average age of those serving are in their 20’s. Gay or straight you have a very high sex drive.

When confined to an installation it is natural to form cliches, usually because of the same likes, hobbies, whatever, something in common. With Gays serving open, they will naturally gravitate to one another because of their common bond. They will become their own group, a group which will be sexually attracted to one another. Just like if you put 6 girls and 6 guys together 24/7 the sexual tensions will naturally happen.

One other point, once this is repealed the next demand will be for gay marriage. The argument will be, they can go to war and die for us and fight for our freedeoms but they can’t marry?? They will play that card in a minute!


31 posted on 12/01/2010 6:51:35 PM PST by panthermom
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To: panthermom
They will play that card in a minute!

I've not the slightest doubt you're correct. I also believe that's why the LGBT has been pushing this so hard, it's a huge inroad for them.

32 posted on 12/01/2010 7:19:38 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: huldah1776
"So, because we know the CIC does not really care about the gay lobby, and this is the only supporting action he has taken for them, then the reason must be the destruction of the greatest military on earth. Agreed?"

The number of friendly fire incidents in war zones will increase by a factor of 10.

The overall effectiveness of the various branches will suffer greatly...with the possible exception of the Air Force where close living is far less.

Example: Imagine yourself in a berthing compartment of a ship at sea...45 racks or so. Then imagine your worry that you picked the wrong rate because the majority of the senior NCOs were homo...along with 8-10 of the rest of the compartment.

After 100 days at sea or so, you're going AWOL at the first civilized port. Maybe any port.

33 posted on 12/01/2010 7:27:12 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: wagglebee; AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks jazusamo.
34 posted on 12/01/2010 7:53:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: jazusamo

Republicans should solicit a report that asks would it be ok if men and women were berthed together in close quarters situations where they had to share shower facilities and sleeping quarters and lets see how this is any different then allowing the gays to do it.

The psychological impact on the straight people will be a form of sexual harrasement, why do they feel they need to flgrantly display their sexuality?

As it is now with DADT at least straight people can assume that the people they are showering and sleeping with aren’t gay even if they are gay because they can’t openly state or flaunt their gayness.


35 posted on 12/01/2010 8:04:06 PM PST by Typical_Whitey ("It doesn't matter how smart you are, unless you stop and think".... Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Monty Python gives us a glimpse into the future

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI


36 posted on 12/01/2010 8:06:09 PM PST by dfwgator (Congratulations to Josh Hamilton - AL MVP)
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To: SunkenCiv; jazusamo

I don’t really know, but do they have separate barracks for the men and the women? Does this mean they will have to have to have a whole new configuration?

1. The MEN

2. The WOMEN

3. gay (men) who like gay (men)

4. gay (men) who think they are (women).

4. gay (women) who like gay (women)

5. gay (women) who think they are (men)

6. The UNSURE

“Drop and give me fifty. NO GODDAMMIT, I meant PUSHUPS!”

“What do you mean we’re all out of gun grease???!!!”

“We used to have the greatest military in the world. Now, you people SUCK.”

FUMTU


37 posted on 12/01/2010 8:29:37 PM PST by bigheadfred (wogga la hooga)
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To: jazusamo

I had the feeling that something like this would happen.


38 posted on 12/01/2010 8:43:56 PM PST by dr_who
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To: jazusamo; a fool in paradise
Don't we all want a FABULOUS Army?


39 posted on 12/01/2010 8:47:47 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Iron Munro

Our largest security risk is in the WH.

http://thejaghunter.wordpress.com/2010/05/27/lets-ask-and-do-tell-is-obama-gay/

May 24, 2010 – SPECIAL REPORT from WAYNE MADSEN.

Obama and Emanuel: Members of same gay bath house in Chicago

President Obama and his chief of staff Rahm Emanuel are lifetime members of the same gay bath house in uptown Chicago, according to informed sources in Chicago’s gay community, as well as veteran political sources in the city.

The bath house, Man’s Country, caters to older white men and it has been in business for some 30 years and is known as one of uptown Chicago’s “grand old bathhouses.” WMR was told by sources who are familiar with the bath house that it provides one-year “lifetime” memberships to paying customers and that the club’s computerized files and pre-computer paper files, include membership information for both Obama and Emanuel. The data is as anonymized as possible for confidentiality purposes. However, sources close to “Man’s Country” believe the U.S. Secret Service has purged the computer and filing cabinet files of the membership data on Obama and Emanuel.

Members of Man’s Country are also issued club identification cards. WMR learned that Obama and Emanuel possessed the ID cards, which were required for entry.

Obama began frequenting Man’s Country in the mid-1990s, during the time he transitioned from a lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School to his election as an Illinois State Senator in 1996. Emanuel, reportedly joined Man’s Country after he left the Clinton White Hosue and moved back to Chicago in 1998, joining the investment firm of Wasserstein Perella and maintaining his membership during his 2002 campaign for the U.S. 5th District House seat vacated by Rod Blagojevich, who was elected governor.

Man’s Country appears to be a “one stop shopping” center for gay men. The club’s website advertises steam rooms, “fantasy rooms,” bed rooms, male strippers, adult movies, and lockers.

Pictures at the URL site.


40 posted on 12/01/2010 8:57:15 PM PST by B4Ranch (I have never met one, not one Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism.)
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To: Mariner

The report is faulty, and a lie. I have real fears in regards to what you imply and know there are enough problems with women serving with men without adding this into the mix.


41 posted on 12/01/2010 9:30:10 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: Sola Veritas

Yep. They have an “Implementation Plan” all ready to go. Clear as day what their intention are. This has been carefully orchastrated from day one.


43 posted on 12/02/2010 7:03:48 AM PST by lwd
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To: Tucker39
Any military person who REJECTS the advances of a gay will be deemed guilty of a HATE CRIME.

There will be homosexuals raping straights and other homos. Any bets these abuses won't be covered up by the brass?

Military readiness and efficiency will be affected by love triangles, spurned lovers and sex related violence. All you have to do is look at the way homos conduct themselves on civvy street. Any bets these problems won't be covered up by the brass?

If they approve of open homosexualism they might as well do away with the concept of male only / female only barracks. Homos don't need women and lezzies don't need men, so they will both be bunking right in the middle of their sexual targets.

Only the straights will be sleeping cold.


44 posted on 12/02/2010 7:40:46 AM PST by Iron Munro (This is our culture; fight for it. This is our flag; pick it up. This is our country; take it back.)
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To: Cheerio
On some talk show today I heard that only 25% of the military sent the questionnaire even responded.

They were probably the smart ones who had doubts about how "anonymous" and "confidential" their responses would be if they gave other-than-PC answers.

45 posted on 12/02/2010 7:48:21 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: huldah1776

“So, because we know the CIC does not really care about the gay lobby, and this is the only supporting action he has taken for them, then the reason must be the destruction of the greatest military on earth. Agreed?”
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The only possible conclusion unless you believe he is stupid enough to think this WON’T destroy the American military. I don’t think he is very smart but I don’t think he is THAT stupid.


46 posted on 12/02/2010 7:48:43 AM PST by RipSawyer
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To: PapaBear3625

I should have said, “The non-responders were...”


47 posted on 12/02/2010 7:49:07 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Iron Munro

Same sex sexual assaults have skyrocketed in recent years.
It’s already happening.


48 posted on 12/02/2010 7:53:11 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Tucker39

What does “Openly Homosexual” mean anyway? There was “Open Heterosexuality” at Tail Gate. They got drummed out.


49 posted on 12/02/2010 9:03:53 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy

homosexuals have favored status as political sex fetish lobbyist donors.

allowing homosexuals in the military is about ENDORSING their sexual fetish behavior. It is no different than requiring a soldier to be allowed to share private quarters with a sheep. (try putting that on a submarine)


50 posted on 12/02/2010 9:08:29 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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