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Alaska election: Joe Miller comments
The State Column ^ | 12/2/10 | Unknown

Posted on 12/02/2010 6:25:14 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants

Alaska Superior Court Judge William Carey held a hearing today on Lisa Murkowski’s motion to intervene in the lawsuit brought by Joe Miller, Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate, challenging the legality of the process the Division of Elections used to count write-in ballots, as well as several other discrepancies and improprieties in the 2010 general election for U.S. Senate.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alaska; joemiller; miller; murkowski
The just of the story is that Miller is attempting to enforce the equal protection rule and hand count ALL ballots cast, not just Morkowski's. He is also seeking to have the law enforced that says the bubble must be filled out and the name be written as it appears on the write-in list.
1 posted on 12/02/2010 6:25:22 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Democrats are allowed to change the vote-counting rules on the fly, so why not RINOs?
2 posted on 12/02/2010 6:33:12 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I am grateful to Joe for fighting to the bitter end.
3 posted on 12/02/2010 6:33:44 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Hang in there, Joe. Give as good as you get on this one, Joe. By her own rules she would do it to you and to Alaska on turned tables. She already has done it to you. At least your delay will be a huge assist to democracy in the vote count. Lisa won’t be missed if she’s late to the senate and has to forfeit her seat on whatever committee it is that she’s on, if she isn’t there by January 1. Besides, Joe, you may win when the dust clears.


4 posted on 12/02/2010 6:36:08 AM PST by RitaOK
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The GIST of the story, not the just.....for future reference.


5 posted on 12/02/2010 6:38:16 AM PST by runninglips (Don't support the Republican party, work to "fundamentally change" it...conservative would be nice)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I got a feeling that they will be.

I am pulling for Joe,but, reality is reality. He is playing against a stacked deck.


6 posted on 12/02/2010 6:39:17 AM PST by sport
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Joe is honorable for not rolling over like the GOP almost always does. How many recounts do Pubbies win?

The standard playbook is that Dems recount until they win, and the GOP just rolls over. Good doggie, GOP!

The people of Alaska need to demand that their election provess is not tainted or compromised.


7 posted on 12/02/2010 6:42:24 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So am I! This is a real fighter, someone we need in the Senate...not someone who throws out the line that she just might caucus with the democrats! Well, Ms. Murkowski, why don’t you just run on the democrat ticket the next time and be done with the deception.


8 posted on 12/02/2010 6:42:44 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Read somewhere yesterday that there may potentially be a significant number of write-in ballots that were duplicates, ie. individuals casting multiple ballots. If that’s the case, then it would be fairly clear that the LM campaign has orchestrated a massive fraud, and someone needs to be sent away for a long time.


9 posted on 12/02/2010 6:42:48 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: sport

As I understand it, SCOTUS in Bush v Gore basically said that if you change the rules in midstream for one candidate you have to do it for them all. So if you hand-count the ballots you have to hand-count them all.


10 posted on 12/02/2010 6:44:03 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: exit82

They roll over because the Establishment Republican Party and the Democrat Party are first cousins.And every opportunity they get the Establishment Republicans marry into the Democrat Party.


11 posted on 12/02/2010 6:49:03 AM PST by sport
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To: sport
They roll over because the Establishment Republican Party and the Democrat Party are first cousins.And every opportunity they get the Establishment Republicans marry into the Democrat Party.

Excellent observation.

12 posted on 12/02/2010 6:54:55 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Me too. And shame on the Alaskans who voted for Murkowski!
13 posted on 12/02/2010 7:02:09 AM PST by cvq3842 (I don't waste my vote on third party candidates, like RINO Republicans.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Joe Miller needs volunteers to investigate and expose all voter fraud during this election. Ask for volunteers from retired law enforcement and retired military if he doesn’t have the funds to hire investigators himself.


14 posted on 12/02/2010 7:04:04 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: cvq3842

Good for fighter Joe.....my $50.. in the pot.....he needs a money bomb to keep this going....


15 posted on 12/02/2010 7:05:37 AM PST by spokeshave (Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Used to be,”one man with the law on his side is a majority,”

now it's,”one man (or woman) with a judge in his pocket...

The Left have learned their Lenin well and as our laws and judges become creepily dissimilar, conversations about a full revolt to restore the US Constitution become more mainstream.

16 posted on 12/02/2010 7:13:44 AM PST by Happy Rain ("GO GAMECOCKS--THE REAL USC!!!")
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To: sport

More like the “Establishment Republican Party” goes through a vast number of knee pads every election.

Do NOT trust them at all!


17 posted on 12/02/2010 7:54:21 AM PST by Calif4Palin (Proud Moose head....)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

What is the status of the election? When will we know who won? or who stole it.


18 posted on 12/02/2010 8:01:17 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: butterdezillion
basically said that if you change the rules in midstream for one candidate you have to do it for them all.

I may be wrong, but I think they ruled you couldn't change the rules after the election.

But the current Court ruled 9-0, that using someone else's SSSN# was not identity theft. Who knows what other goodies they have planned for us.

19 posted on 12/02/2010 10:07:20 AM PST by itsahoot (We the people allowed Republican leadership to get us here, only God's Grace can get us out.)
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To: itsahoot

Crazy, isn’t it?

Liberalism MUST be a mental disorder because I feel like I’m living in an Alzheimer’s unit. I’d laugh but neither Alzheimers nor the situation we’re in is really a laughing matter.

In the “Voyage of the Dawn Treader” there’s a place where dreams come true, and it’s a place of terror because it’s not a place where DAYDREAMS come true but where the actual dreams you have where nothing is impossible and nothing has to make sense actually become reality. In dreams nothing is predictable, nothing can be planned, nothing follows an established order of cause-effect, and the bad stuff spirals out of control.

That’s what it feels like in the USA today. Even normally apolitical people are sensing it, that our world is literally becoming insane because the insane people are now making legally-binding decisions for the whole society.


20 posted on 12/02/2010 10:16:56 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
yes.....we need to know whether we have the rule of law or that we have nothing and that elections mean nothing...

Keep it up Joe...

21 posted on 12/02/2010 3:16:28 PM PST by cherry
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To: cvq3842

shame on Alaskans who even gave Cow a chance....and today we know that zero and his ilk are forbiding off shore drilling....


22 posted on 12/02/2010 3:17:46 PM PST by cherry
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To: CincyRichieRich

“What is the status of the election? When will we know who won? or who stole it.”

It depends on how the judge rules. First, I expect the judge to rule that ALL ballots must be counted in a similar manner, i.e. that if Murkowski votes are hand counted and the counters are allowed to determine “voter intent”, then ALL ballots are to be counted in the same manner. So far Miller’s ballots have ONLY been counted by machine with the machine throwing out many ballots that may have a partial erasure in one of the bubbles causing it to invalidate the ballot. Other ballots may have been invalidated because the voter didn’t fill out enough of the bubble beside the name. Again, ONLY the ballots with write ins were hand counted and given special consideration. If the judge rules for some reason that you can count some ballots one way and other ballots a different manner, they will quickly be slapped down because the Supreme Court settled this in 2000.

Second, Miller will ask the judge to apply the law as written, i.e. that the bubble must be filled out next to the write in blank and the name of the person they want to vote for must be written AS IT APPEARS on the list of write in candidates. It is less likely that the judges will follow the law because so many are beholding to Murkowski’s family.

If that fails, Miller should appeal on the grounds that the judge is biased because he was placed on the bench by the Kow’s dad.


23 posted on 12/02/2010 5:27:49 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: itsahoot

“I may be wrong, but I think they ruled you couldn’t change the rules after the election.”

If you are talking about Bush vs. Gore in 2000, I think that the judges ruled that you had to use a uniform counting standard for ALL ballots cast, that no set of ballots could be given special consideration over others.


24 posted on 12/02/2010 5:33:40 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; CincyRichieRich
Second, Miller will ask the judge to apply the law as written, i.e. that the bubble must be filled out next to the write in blank and the name of the person they want to vote for must be written AS IT APPEARS on the list of write in candidates.

However, Murkowski already has more undisputed votes than Miller. The ballots with misspellings etc. have been challenged by the Miller campaign, but a lawsuit became moot when Murkowski pulled ahead on votes that the Miller's inspectors agree with.

So counting Miller's votes manually has to yield an additional 2,200+ votes (meaning that 2.5% of Miller's ballots were not counted by the voting machines). But even if that puts him over the 92,929 unchallenged votes for Murkowski, then the courts would have to go through the 8,159 disputed write-in votes. If media reports are to be believed, even the strictest interpretation of the law should yield a few more votes for Murkowski (where the name is spelled correctly and just the handwriting is a bit extravagant).

So is it likely that Miller gets enough votes for the voter intent question to even become relevant? To me it seems like a stretch. More likely than not this one is over.
25 posted on 12/03/2010 2:32:22 PM PST by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
This is great news; hope Joe is right on this one.

Miller emphasized, “Regardless of whether Ms. Murkowski is permitted to intervene, we are confident that the court will enforce Alaska law as written, invalidate the State’s illegal initial count, and require that every ballot be hand-counted in accordance with state law.”
26 posted on 12/09/2010 1:49:54 PM PST by no dems (DeMINT / PALIN 2012)
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