Skip to comments.Coburn, Crapo say yes to debt commission plan (Judd Gregg will also support it)
Posted on 12/02/2010 10:30:32 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Republican Sens. Tom Coburn and Mike Crapo, who sit on President Obama's deficit-reduction commission, will vote in favor of the commission's plan, according to sources.
They will join Sens. Kent Conrad (D) and Judd Gregg (R), who said yesterday they'd also support the package.
Fourteen of the commission's 18 members need to vote yes for the plan to move to Congress. The vote is expected to take place tomorrow.
Both senators are voting members of the panel.
"I'm scared to death at the potential that could unwind this country," said Coburn, one of the Senate's most fiscal conservative members.
Crapo said, "Although it's not everything we wanted and contains things that are painful to us and raise heartburn... it takes us down a path of addressing these issues."
Both members said the commissions' proposal are a starting point for reigning in the nation's growing debt. But they agreed that more needs to be done, saying the plan does not cut spending nearly enough.
"If we pass this bill tomorrow, it doesn't get us out of the woods," Coburn said. "There are many more difficult choices we'll have to make."
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In other news :
Paul Ryan Says No to Deficit Plan
So, these guys are officially brain dead. I see.
Does this commission report mention shooting the health care law?
Unrelated to the topic, but does Mike Crapo ever considered changing his family name at all ?
Unrelated to the topic, but has Mike Crapo ever considered changing his family name at all ?
Nope. Not at all. Mikey likes it!
Unrelated to the topic, but has Mike Crapo ever considered changing his family name at all ?”
He considered changing it to Guano but thought it was too foreign sounding.
Isn’t Obama the first president to cause a debt commission?
I think it goes backwards, Ryan, a Wisconsin Republican and the next chairman of the House
Budget Committee, said at a breakfast with reporters sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor.
I think it makes health care dramatically worse. And look, Im trying to be guarded in my comments because I really respect what [commission co-chairs] Erskine [Bowles] and Alan [Simpson] have done. They should be commended. But they didnt deal with health care.
Ryans comments are the most unconditional rebuke of a plan that has been regarded even by conservatives on the commission as fairly conservative because of its recommendations on cutting spending in some parts of the budget, and on reform of Social Security and the tax system so that rates can be dramatically lowered.
1. Government deficit spends until the breaking point.
2. The people express concern.
3. The tax collectors for the state are placed on a commission which decides revenue, read taxes, must be raised and cuts must be made.
4. Taxes are raised.
5. The cuts are never realized.
6. The government behemoth grows and the enslavement of the populace moves forward once again.
7. Rinse and repeat.
Ask Ronald Reagan, he found out how this all works before he passed.
Obama is not the first.
At least since Eisenhower, most administrations have not allowed the buck to stop with them but have appointed a commission to make it look like they are doing something while avoiding any unpopular decision.
The simple fact is that most people, including many freepers, do not want their pet agenda spending cut.
I wouldn’t call Crapo or Coburn RINOs. Honestly, I think they’re so desperate to do SOMETHING that they’re falling into a trap. Not a good thing, but it doesn’t make them RINOs.
If taxes are raised it will be the end of this country. It’s gasping for breath as it is.
How about we just cut spending. And that includes cutting the perks and salaries of these dirt bags who spent the money to begin with.
Will “we the people” continue to allow this? Is therer anything “we the people” can do to stop it?
What to make of two conservatives differing so dramatically on the way out of our demise? Which is true, really? This commission did throw the sacred cows on the table, which makes them appear to be deadly serious, and a hard row to come for the country. Now comes Ryan who says he will oppose the Plan and vote no, for some very scary reasons.
Why couldn’t we come to agreement or disagreement, as a block, and behind the scenes? Are we going to argue the merits back and forth and fail to EVER get started doing much of anything? What to make of Ryan and Coburn?
“...most people, including many freepers, do not want their pet agenda spending cut.”
Which are those?
I'm thinking of the higher retirement age and the reduced income/corporate tax rates in particular.
Organized labor leaders are adamantly opposed to the commission's recommendations, which is a very telling sign to me.
Lemme see......away goes my mortgage deduction and up goes my gas taxes. Yeah that’s gonna really help me alot.
RE: away goes my mortgage deduction and up goes my gas taxes.
Will it make you feel better if your income taxes are simplified and you pay just 8%, 15% or 23% (TOPS)?
I don't think there's anything sinister going on here at all. A lot of it has to do with their personalities and the offices they hold. Coburn is a U.S. Senator and a medical doctor by trade, and as someone who serves for six years at a time he's probably very pragmatic and reflective by nature. Ryan is a young House member with a background in marketing, a rising star in the GOP leadership, and far more ambitious about getting dramatic things done over a shorter period of time.
Quite frankly, I'm pleased that two Republicans with solid conservative credentials can come out on different sides of this thing. That tells me the crisis we're facing goes far beyond mere political partisanship, which means the solutions are likely to be pretty dramatic -- and probably inevitable, too.