Skip to comments.Soldier's sanity debated in murder case
Posted on 12/02/2010 11:02:10 AM PST by smoothsailing
Published: Dec. 1, 2010 at 3:58 PM
FORT CARSON, Colo., Dec. 1 (UPI) -- A Colorado hearing for an Army private, accused of killing a prisoner in Afghanistan, heard conflicting reports on his mental state.
Soldiers testified by telephone from Afghanistan Tuesday for Pfc. David Lawrence's preliminary hearing at Fort Carson, the Denver Post reported.
Lawrence, 20, is charged with premeditated murder for allegedly killing Taliban commander Mullah Mohebullah in his cell Oct. 17, hours after his capture. The defense portrays a troubled young man who was put on antidepressants and sent back to his unit, while the prosecution says Lawrence is feigning mental illness.
One witness, Pfc. Dimitri Jenkins said Lawrence, a "good friend," was "up and down."
"Sometimes you could tell he was on his meds, something in his eyes," Jenkins said.
But others said they saw him after the killing and heard him talk about claiming an insanity defense.
"It was something along the lines of his attorney is going to try to pull the crazy card," said Pvt. Aaron Rederstorf, recounting a statement he said he overheard after Lawrence was in custody.
I want him severely punished with a promotion to Corporal, a medal and at least two weeks of RR not charged as ordinary leave.
From PFC Lawrence's Facebook Page...
PFC David W. Lawrence is an American soldier from Indiana. He is the son of Brett and Wendy Lawrence. David is 20 years old.
PFC Lawrence is accused of shooting Mullah Mohebullah on Oct. 17 while guarding him in Kandahar province, Afghanistan. Mullah Mohebullah was a senior Taliban commander. The death was announced by an angry Afghan President Hamid Karzai.
"We are going to an Article 32 for a kid who is hearing voices," James Culp, PFC Lawrence's attorney, said. He also said he was concerned the Army might be rushing the case to court-martial to appease Karzai. PFC Lawrence's 706 investigation (ordered to determine whether he is mentally competent to stand trial) is expected to be finished Dec. 10. PFC Lawrence's attorneys fought to delay this week's hearing until the mental competency evaluation process was completed. The request was denied. The Article 32 hearing took place on November 29 and 30 at Ft. Carson, Colorado.
David is currently being treated with potent drugs for schizophrenia.
Less than a week before the shooting, PFC Lawrence was examined by doctors and given drugs for depression and sleeplessness. Days later, he was put on guard duty at a detention center in the Arghandab district of Kandahar province, despite having no training for it.
David told his father that he was seeing soldiers who had died in Afghanistan, including Capt. Dale Goetz. He told his father "... he could see the chaplain with only half a head remaining," Capt. Dale Goetz was a chaplain in the 4th Infantry Division for the 66th Armor Regiments 1st Battalion based out of Ft. Carson, Colorado. Capt. Goetz is the first Army chaplain killed in combat in 40 years. Capt. Goetz was David's friend. It was a known fact that David was closer to the chaplain than anyone else in the platoon.
This young man comes from a wonderful family, and has very loving, caring parents who are undoubtedly afraid of what lies ahead. This is going to be a lengthy battle. Costs for specialists, travels to and from Colorado and all the costs involved with repeated week long stays there, medical evaluations, and doctors are adding up.
This family needs help. Please show your support of PFC David Lawrence by making a contributions to his defense fund: United Community Bank, 19710 Stateline Road, Lawrenceburg, IN 47025. Please make checks payable to "FOB PFC David W. Lawrence" Any contribution, no matter how small is huge to the Lawrence family.
Please keep PFC Lawrence and family in your prayers.
See post #22.
Thanks so much for posting this, Smooth! :)
That was supposed to be a funny.
That would be a fitting tribute... I mean punishment!
That would be a fitting tribute... I mean punishment!
This stinks of politics...
“The case drew worldwide attention after Afghan President Hamid Karzai issued a blistering condemnation of the killing a day after Mohebullah died.”
I know. I’m just in the middle of embracing my inner psychopat.
Your post from facebook says a whole lot in just a few words. I wonder if this Mohebullah is in any way connected to Karzai's corrupt payola money trail. I know that's a silly question, of course he was.
The judge running this hearing only had to delay it two weeks, I'm going to join bhf in screaming.
SCREAM WITH ME
I guess I forgot to mention Curt and James were already in the closet...
At best, you either punish him for murders committed, or prevent him from murdering by venting his thick, empty skull.
It’s the same chickensh** game where the US Government thinks they are the sole possessor of the right to deem what is an act of war. And what is murder. And there is no guideline to follow. Just the whim of the day.
I think he was kidding, although I’m not sure. In any case, he has a lawyer, and it’s the lawyer who decides what to plead.
I think I might go crazy too, if I was stuck in Afghanistan and my superiors ordered me to keep the chamber empty in my weapon and never to shoot back at someone just because they happened to be shooting at me.
Since when do you have to lawyer up for making a joke on an open forum?
I'm with you. What is it about this particular muzzie mullah that got Karzai's bloomers all twisted?
Other Afghans who were there said they were not sure if the detainee was trying to escape at the time that he was killed. Local elders said the detainee was a local Taliban commander named Hajji Mohammed who had given a different name, Mullah Muhibullah, to the Americans.
It didn’t take Karzai any time at all to start screaming like a castrated pig. I would have thought he’d meet with American commanders before going bonkers.
Lawrence, 20, is charged with premeditated murder for allegedly killing Taliban commander Mullah Mohebullah in his cell Oct. 17, hours after his capture.
Looks like he was a "new" arrival. But according to this:
They had this guy in 2007. Somehow they failed to recognize the threat he posed, even though it appears he was a top aide to Omar or, some deal was made with Karzai. There is an opium connection. There is the Pakistan connection.
My guess is, they let this guy go, he is responsible for more deaths of our troops, captured once again and our boys called BS probably figuring he would be released AGAIN and organized a hit.
"Open Society Foundations" has popped up in one of the articles I've run across. So now there's a George Soros connection.