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Accused soldier delusional, parents say

Facebook page-In Support of PFC David Lawrence

1 posted on 12/02/2010 11:02:12 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: jazusamo; lilycicero; Defend Our Marine

Jaz, I’ve posted this article at the request of lilycicero and DefendOurMarine. I’ve included all the information I have. They have requested that we spread the word on this case.

Please ping our lists.

2 posted on 12/02/2010 11:07:44 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Main Entry: phar·ma·cy
Pronunciation: ‘fär-m&-sE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -cies
Etymology: Late Latin pharmacia administration of drugs, from Greek pharmakeia, from pharmakeuein to administer drugs,
from pharmakon magic charm, poison, drug
Date: 1651
1 : the art, practice, or profession of preparing, preserving, compounding, and dispensing medical drugs
2 a : a place where medicines are compounded or dispensed b : DRUGSTORE
The term magic arts comes from the original word,
pharmakia, from which we also get the word pharmacy. It
also refers to the use of drugs, or sorcery. Those involved
in sorcery get high on drugs in order to make it easier to
contact demons. Pathetically today, millions of young
people are getting in bondage to Satan through the use of
drugs without even knowing it.

Most people taking drugs claim there aren’t any harmful
affects from drugs. But drugs act as a tool to open the
mind, and leave you defenseless against evil spirits entering
and taking possession. Ninety percent of those who belong
to the church of Satan started on drugs.

As mentioned earlier, the mystics of the east use drugs in
order to go into a trance which enables them to make
contact with the spirits, and they are soon possessed by
them. Charles Manson is a typical example of one who
became possessed by evil spirits through drugs. Revelation
18:23 - sorceries (Pharmakia, in the Greek) = drugs.

3 posted on 12/02/2010 11:10:03 AM PST by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Islam ism)
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To: smoothsailing
Brett and Wendy Lawrence told the Times their son had told them he was hearing voices, including one that told him how to avoid roadside bombs.

I believe him. The voices MUST have been real. After all, he didn't hit any road side bombs while he was in Afghanistan, did he?

4 posted on 12/02/2010 11:21:14 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: smoothsailing
But others said they saw him after the killing and heard him talk about claiming an insanity defense.

I fail to see why this proves anything. So, he was crazy, on meds and hearing voices, and his defense attorney told him that he planned to plead insanity because he was, well, crazy. And he told a couple of his friends what the lawyer had said to him.

That hardly makes it a plot of some kind.

5 posted on 12/02/2010 11:25:36 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: smoothsailing

Can we give him a medal?

6 posted on 12/02/2010 11:26:48 AM PST by GeronL ( <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: smoothsailing; 4woodenboats; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; ...

Pinging lists to posts 1 & 2. Thanks for the heads up, Smooth.

7 posted on 12/02/2010 11:28:34 AM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: smoothsailing

While I understand there could be some intel value to the Taliban commander, in all likelihood, the local village leaders would have just shown up and said he was a simple farmer and we’d free him to generate good will.

What this Soldier did was neither crazy or immoral.

God Bless him.

9 posted on 12/02/2010 11:32:49 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: jazusamo; Girlene; lilycicero; Defend Our Marine; donna; GeronL; LibertyRocks; Owl_Eagle; WayneS; ..
There's a political angle to this which explains the rush to judgement.

From PFC Lawrence's Facebook Page...


PFC David W. Lawrence is an American soldier from Indiana. He is the son of Brett and Wendy Lawrence. David is 20 years old.

PFC Lawrence is accused of shooting Mullah Mohebullah on Oct. 17 while guarding him in Kandahar province, Afghanistan. Mullah Mohebullah was a senior Taliban commander. The death was announced by an angry Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

"We are going to an Article 32 for a kid who is hearing voices," James Culp, PFC Lawrence's attorney, said. He also said he was concerned the Army might be rushing the case to court-martial to appease Karzai. PFC Lawrence's 706 investigation (ordered to determine whether he is mentally competent to stand trial) is expected to be finished Dec. 10. PFC Lawrence's attorneys fought to delay this week's hearing until the mental competency evaluation process was completed. The request was denied. The Article 32 hearing took place on November 29 and 30 at Ft. Carson, Colorado.

David is currently being treated with potent drugs for schizophrenia.

Less than a week before the shooting, PFC Lawrence was examined by doctors and given drugs for depression and sleeplessness. Days later, he was put on guard duty at a detention center in the Arghandab district of Kandahar province, despite having no training for it.

David told his father that he was seeing soldiers who had died in Afghanistan, including Capt. Dale Goetz. He told his father "... he could see the chaplain with only half a head remaining," Capt. Dale Goetz was a chaplain in the 4th Infantry Division for the 66th Armor Regiment’s 1st Battalion based out of Ft. Carson, Colorado. Capt. Goetz is the first Army chaplain killed in combat in 40 years. Capt. Goetz was David's friend. It was a known fact that David was closer to the chaplain than anyone else in the platoon.

This young man comes from a wonderful family, and has very loving, caring parents who are undoubtedly afraid of what lies ahead. This is going to be a lengthy battle. Costs for specialists, travels to and from Colorado and all the costs involved with repeated week long stays there, medical evaluations, and doctors are adding up.

This family needs help. Please show your support of PFC David Lawrence by making a contributions to his defense fund: United Community Bank, 19710 Stateline Road, Lawrenceburg, IN 47025. Please make checks payable to "FOB PFC David W. Lawrence" Any contribution, no matter how small is huge to the Lawrence family.

Please keep PFC Lawrence and family in your prayers.

22 posted on 12/02/2010 1:24:16 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks so much for posting this, Smooth! :)

24 posted on 12/02/2010 1:28:54 PM PST by Defend Our Marine
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To: smoothsailing
How do you "murder" a Taliban commander?

At best, you either punish him for murders committed, or prevent him from murdering by venting his thick, empty skull.

Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

32 posted on 12/02/2010 1:58:44 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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